overseeding the lawn
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My back lawn is very poor quality & I am thinking of re-seeding it. In the garden centre there are packs of lawn seed which claim to be specifically for this purpose. Can I just sprinkle new seed over an old lawn ? (seems unlikely to me ! ) all advice very welcome KK |
overseeding the lawn
"dido22" wrote in message ... hello, My back lawn is very poor quality & I am thinking of re-seeding it. In the garden centre there are packs of lawn seed which claim to be specifically for this purpose. Can I just sprinkle new seed over an old lawn ? (seems unlikely to me ! ) all advice very welcome "General" advice...... Rake the areas to be seeded thoroughly to achieve a softer, debris/dead grass and moss free(er) surface. Evenly sprinkle the seed over those areas and *gently* press in with your foot or a roll very lightly. Provide a surface layer of either sand or very fine sieved topsoil to hide the seed and provide a reasonable covering to retain moisture and reduce direct sunlight. Water daily until germination is evident. Gently add a little more sand or topsoil when leaf of grass is around an inch tall. Continue to water enough to keep moist. Provide mechanical protection (small fenced off area etc) to reduce trampling until fully grown. That's how we patched the approaches and surrounds on the golf course. |
overseeding the lawn
On 11 July, 16:35, "R" wrote:
"dido22" wrote in message ... hello, My back lawn is very poor quality & I am thinking of re-seeding it. In the garden centre there are packs of lawn seed which claim to be specifically for this purpose. Can I just sprinkle new seed over an old lawn ? *(seems unlikely to me ! ) all advice very welcome "General" advice...... Rake the areas to be seeded thoroughly to achieve a softer, debris/dead grass and moss free(er) surface. Evenly sprinkle the seed over those areas and *gently* press in with your foot or a roll very lightly. Provide a surface layer of either sand or very fine sieved topsoil to hide the seed and provide a reasonable covering to retain moisture and reduce direct sunlight. Water daily until germination is evident. Gently add a little more sand or topsoil when leaf of grass is around an inch tall. Continue to water enough to keep moist. Provide mechanical protection (small fenced off area etc) to reduce trampling until fully grown. That's how we patched the approaches and surrounds on the golf course. Give your lawn a good raking with a wire rake to shift debris, mos and to stand the existing grass stems a bit, let the grass you have grow to about 1.5 inches, broadcast sow the grass seed all over the lawn and give it a light rake in with the wirew rake, If it's dry then water well, The longer grass will keep a microclimate round its base and hold moisture, if you are lucky enough to be getting no rain then a light watering in the evening every couple of days. . The grass should germinate quickly at this time of year. Remember you should cut new grass with a cylinder mower as it Curs the grass rather than slashes it as a rotary mower does. A rotary mower can pull the young grass out by the roots. Remember, in nature grass seed just drops to the grownd and doesn't get planted, except some by worms. David Hill |
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overseeding the lawn
On 11 July, 17:43, Dave Hill wrote:
Remember, in nature grass seed just drops to the grownd and doesn't get planted, except some by worms. It's true. But Nature is not setting out to achieve a perfect monovarietal sward, and as long as one seed in a million succeeds is quite happy. We are hoping to get at least 50% of grass seeds to succeed, so a bit of TLC & the elimination of hazards will help this un-natural desite. |
overseeding the lawn
"dido22" wrote in message ... | hello, | | My back lawn is very poor quality & I am thinking of re-seeding it. | | In the garden centre there are packs of lawn seed which claim to be | specifically for this purpose. | | Can I just sprinkle new seed over an old lawn ? (seems unlikely to me ! ) | | all advice very welcome | | KK | Look at the long term forecast and pick a long wet, warm spell to do it. If you do it in a dry spell you'll have to water frequently |
overseeding the lawn
On 11 July, 23:04, bobharvey wrote:
On 11 July, 17:43, Dave Hill wrote: Remember, in nature grass seed just drops to the grownd and doesn't get planted, except some by worms. It's true. *But Nature is not setting out to achieve a perfect monovarietal sward, and as long as one seed in a million succeeds is quite happy. *We are hoping to get at least 50% of grass seeds to succeed, so a bit of TLC & the elimination of hazards will help this un-natural desite. We dont all go into the garden with "un-natural desires" If just 1 in one million grass seeds grew in nature then we would have no grass. David Hill |
overseeding the lawn
On 2009-07-12 10:35:05 +0100, Dave Hill said:
On 11 July, 23:04, bobharvey wrote: On 11 July, 17:43, Dave Hill wrote: Remember, in nature grass seed just drops to the grownd and doesn't get planted, except some by worms. It's true. *But Nature is not setting out to achieve a perfect monovarietal sward, and as long as one seed in a million succeeds is quite happy. *We are hoping to get at least 50% of grass seeds to succeed, so a bit of TLC & the elimination of hazards will help this un-natural desite. We dont all go into the garden with "un-natural desires" If just 1 in one million grass seeds grew in nature then we would have no grass. David Hill Am I allowed at this stage to butt in, yet again, with Ray's lawn seeding method? ;-) Well, I will anyway (perhaps NB to FAQ makers?!): thoroughly mix up lawn seed and compost in a wheelbarrow to the quantity required. Tip all back into an empty compost sack. Roll over loosely at the top and leave for a few days. When the seed has germinated, scatter it where needed. This helps you to see where you've sown and it helps to keep birds off. Cover the scattered seed with horticultural fleece and weigh the edges down with stones or similar. This also helps to repel birds, gives the grass a bit of a 'greenhouse' and gets it off to a good start. When grass is a decent height, remove fleece. Keep watered in dry spells before and after fleece removal. Several NT gardeners learned this tip from Ray and have put it to good use! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
overseeding the lawn - Thanks this has been helpful
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K "dido22" wrote in message ... hello, My back lawn is very poor quality & I am thinking of re-seeding it. In the garden centre there are packs of lawn seed which claim to be specifically for this purpose. Can I just sprinkle new seed over an old lawn ? (seems unlikely to me ! ) all advice very welcome KK |
overseeding the lawn
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-07-12 10:35:05 +0100, Dave Hill said: On 11 July, 23:04, bobharvey wrote: On 11 July, 17:43, Dave Hill wrote: Remember, in nature grass seed just drops to the grownd and doesn't get planted, except some by worms. It's true. But Nature is not setting out to achieve a perfect monovarietal sward, and as long as one seed in a million succeeds is quite happy. We are hoping to get at least 50% of grass seeds to succeed, so a bit of TLC & the elimination of hazards will help this un-natural desite. We dont all go into the garden with "un-natural desires" If just 1 in one million grass seeds grew in nature then we would have no grass. David Hill Am I allowed at this stage to butt in, yet again, with Ray's lawn seeding method? ;-) Well, I will anyway (perhaps NB to FAQ makers?!): thoroughly mix up lawn seed and compost in a wheelbarrow to the quantity required. Tip all back into an empty compost sack. Roll over loosely at the top and leave for a few days. When the seed has germinated, scatter it where needed. This helps you to see where you've sown and it helps to keep birds off. Cover the scattered seed with horticultural fleece and weigh the edges down with stones or similar. This also helps to repel birds, gives the grass a bit of a 'greenhouse' and gets it off to a good start. When grass is a decent height, remove fleece. Keep watered in dry spells before and after fleece removal. Several NT gardeners learned this tip from Ray and have put it to good use! -- Now included as an FAQ... http://www.u-r-g.co.uk/faqlawnrep.htm RG |
overseeding the lawn
On 2009-07-13 12:04:53 +0100, "RG" said:
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-07-12 10:35:05 +0100, Dave Hill said: On 11 July, 23:04, bobharvey wrote: On 11 July, 17:43, Dave Hill wrote: Remember, in nature grass seed just drops to the grownd and doesn't get planted, except some by worms. It's true. But Nature is not setting out to achieve a perfect monovarietal sward, and as long as one seed in a million succeeds is quite happy. We are hoping to get at least 50% of grass seeds to succeed, so a bit of TLC & the elimination of hazards will help this un-natural desite. We dont all go into the garden with "un-natural desires" If just 1 in one million grass seeds grew in nature then we would have no grass. David Hill Am I allowed at this stage to butt in, yet again, with Ray's lawn seeding method? ;-) Well, I will anyway (perhaps NB to FAQ makers?!): thoroughly mix up lawn seed and compost in a wheelbarrow to the quantity required. Tip all back into an empty compost sack. Roll over loosely at the top and leave for a few days. When the seed has germinated, scatter it where needed. This helps you to see where you've sown and it helps to keep birds off. Cover the scattered seed with horticultural fleece and weigh the edges down with stones or similar. This also helps to repel birds, gives the grass a bit of a 'greenhouse' and gets it off to a good start. When grass is a decent height, remove fleece. Keep watered in dry spells before and after fleece removal. Several NT gardeners learned this tip from Ray and have put it to good use! -- Now included as an FAQ... http://www.u-r-g.co.uk/faqlawnrep.htm RG Many thanks. Don't know why I'm seeing some of these posts so late - I'm getting used to a new newsreader and obviously haven't got the hang of it yet! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
overseeding the lawn
On 2009-07-22 14:14:07 +0100, Sacha said:
On 2009-07-13 12:04:53 +0100, "RG" said: "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-07-12 10:35:05 +0100, Dave Hill said: On 11 July, 23:04, bobharvey wrote: On 11 July, 17:43, Dave Hill wrote: Remember, in nature grass seed just drops to the grownd and doesn't get planted, except some by worms. It's true. But Nature is not setting out to achieve a perfect monovarietal sward, and as long as one seed in a million succeeds is quite happy. We are hoping to get at least 50% of grass seeds to succeed, so a bit of TLC & the elimination of hazards will help this un-natural desite. We dont all go into the garden with "un-natural desires" If just 1 in one million grass seeds grew in nature then we would have no grass. David Hill Am I allowed at this stage to butt in, yet again, with Ray's lawn seeding method? ;-) Well, I will anyway (perhaps NB to FAQ makers?!): thoroughly mix up lawn seed and compost in a wheelbarrow to the quantity required. Tip all back into an empty compost sack. Roll over loosely at the top and leave for a few days. When the seed has germinated, scatter it where needed. This helps you to see where you've sown and it helps to keep birds off. Cover the scattered seed with horticultural fleece and weigh the edges down with stones or similar. This also helps to repel birds, gives the grass a bit of a 'greenhouse' and gets it off to a good start. When grass is a decent height, remove fleece. Keep watered in dry spells before and after fleece removal. Several NT gardeners learned this tip from Ray and have put it to good use! -- Now included as an FAQ... http://www.u-r-g.co.uk/faqlawnrep.htm RG Many thanks. Don't know why I'm seeing some of these posts so late - I'm getting used to a new newsreader and obviously haven't got the hang of it yet! FWIW, I managed to strip the grass verge outside my house back to bare earth as a consequence of building works, skips, rubble, etc. The Highways Officer for the local council came to see me and told me that I needed to re-seed the verge and reinstate (which I was going to do anyway). I told him what I planned to do and how I intended to care for it during propagation and growth. He looked shocked. "Don't bother with all that," he said. "Just loosen the surface, scatter the grass seed and then ignore it. Nature will take care of the rest." I voiced my surprise and he added: "We seed or re-seed hundreds of acres of grass verge and landscaping every year and this method works just fine." And it did. |
overseeding the lawn
On 2009-07-23 12:22:30 +0100, Stan The Man said:
On 2009-07-22 14:14:07 +0100, Sacha said: On 2009-07-13 12:04:53 +0100, "RG" said: "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-07-12 10:35:05 +0100, Dave Hill said: On 11 July, 23:04, bobharvey wrote: On 11 July, 17:43, Dave Hill wrote: Remember, in nature grass seed just drops to the grownd and doesn't get planted, except some by worms. It's true. But Nature is not setting out to achieve a perfect monovarietal sward, and as long as one seed in a million succeeds is quite happy. We are hoping to get at least 50% of grass seeds to succeed, so a bit of TLC & the elimination of hazards will help this un-natural desite. We dont all go into the garden with "un-natural desires" If just 1 in one million grass seeds grew in nature then we would have no grass. David Hill Am I allowed at this stage to butt in, yet again, with Ray's lawn seeding method? ;-) Well, I will anyway (perhaps NB to FAQ makers?!): thoroughly mix up lawn seed and compost in a wheelbarrow to the quantity required. Tip all back into an empty compost sack. Roll over loosely at the top and leave for a few days. When the seed has germinated, scatter it where needed. This helps you to see where you've sown and it helps to keep birds off. Cover the scattered seed with horticultural fleece and weigh the edges down with stones or similar. This also helps to repel birds, gives the grass a bit of a 'greenhouse' and gets it off to a good start. When grass is a decent height, remove fleece. Keep watered in dry spells before and after fleece removal. Several NT gardeners learned this tip from Ray and have put it to good use! -- Now included as an FAQ... http://www.u-r-g.co.uk/faqlawnrep.htm RG Many thanks. Don't know why I'm seeing some of these posts so late - I'm getting used to a new newsreader and obviously haven't got the hang of it yet! FWIW, I managed to strip the grass verge outside my house back to bare earth as a consequence of building works, skips, rubble, etc. The Highways Officer for the local council came to see me and told me that I needed to re-seed the verge and reinstate (which I was going to do anyway). I told him what I planned to do and how I intended to care for it during propagation and growth. He looked shocked. "Don't bother with all that," he said. "Just loosen the surface, scatter the grass seed and then ignore it. Nature will take care of the rest." I voiced my surprise and he added: "We seed or re-seed hundreds of acres of grass verge and landscaping every year and this method works just fine." And it did. It will certainly work but the method I've described is faster and for re-seeding bare patches in lawns (which are hard on the naked eye for some people) it's just a very satisfactory way of getting it going easily. Grass verges aren't usually treated with the tlc lawns usually get so a less than perfect finish probably doesn't matter quite so much. One of the things I like so much round here is that the verges are a great mixture of different grasses and wildflowers, especially where there are no pavements. By and large, they're left unmown for a long period and in due season, primroses, bluebells, ox-eye daisies, foxgloves, campion and ragwort are allowed to flourish. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
overseeding the lawn
On 2009-07-24 16:38:07 +0100, Martin said:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:58:37 +0100, Sacha wrote: snip One of the things I like so much round here is that the verges are a great mixture of different grasses and wildflowers, especially where there are no pavements. By and large, they're left unmown for a long period and in due season, primroses, bluebells, ox-eye daisies, foxgloves, campion and ragwort are allowed to flourish. There were wild orchids growing on the grass verges in places in N Yorksire There were some near here and then the owner of a nearby house put in possibly the ugliest gateway in Devon and must, I think, have got lime or something onto the grass. We've never seen the orchids again. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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