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brian mitchell 15-07-2009 02:32 AM

grape vine cutting
 
Hi,

I have a grape vine cutting in a 3-1/2" pot consisting of a woody stem
4mm dia and about 100mm long, 50mm in the soil and the rest in the
air. The new growth is from a bud at the very top of the woody stem
and is now up to its third pair of leaves. It needs repotting soon as
roots are showing at the bottom, and here is the question: will the
old woody stem be able to expand or will it constrain future growth? I
could set it deeper in the new pot so that the soil level came up to
the new growth, from where more roots might develop, or is there a
danger of the new shoot rotting if I do that? What would people
advise?

brian mitchell

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 15-07-2009 12:11 PM

grape vine cutting
 
In article ,
says...
Hi,

I have a grape vine cutting in a 3-1/2" pot consisting of a woody stem
4mm dia and about 100mm long, 50mm in the soil and the rest in the
air. The new growth is from a bud at the very top of the woody stem
and is now up to its third pair of leaves. It needs repotting soon as
roots are showing at the bottom, and here is the question: will the
old woody stem be able to expand or will it constrain future growth? I
could set it deeper in the new pot so that the soil level came up to
the new growth, from where more roots might develop, or is there a
danger of the new shoot rotting if I do that? What would people
advise?

brian mitchell

Pot it at the same depth, the base will eventually get bigger!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Dave Hill 15-07-2009 12:42 PM

grape vine cutting
 
On 15 July, 12:11, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article ,
says... Hi,

I have a grape vine cutting in a 3-1/2" pot consisting of a woody stem
4mm dia and about 100mm long, 50mm in the soil and the rest in the
air. The new growth is from a bud at the very top of the woody stem
and is now up to its third pair of leaves. It needs repotting soon as
roots are showing at the bottom, and here is the question: will the
old woody stem be able to expand or will it constrain future growth? I
could set it deeper in the new pot so that the soil level came up to
the new growth, from where more roots might develop, or is there a
danger of the new shoot rotting if I do that? What would people
advise?


brian mitchell


Pot it at the same depth, the base will eventually get bigger!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea


I think you will bind that the growth is from a graft, If you pot it
deeper then the growth will be different.
As Charlie says the stem will get bigger as the vine grows,
You say the roots are showing out of the bottom of the pot, you dont
say the size of the pot, but I wouldn't be in to much of a hurry to
repot unless the vine has been in the same pot for a year or so.
I'd repot in the spring.
David Hill

Dave Hill 15-07-2009 12:45 PM

grape vine cutting
 
On 15 July, 12:42, Dave Hill wrote:
On 15 July, 12:11, Charlie Pridham
wrote:





In article ,
says... Hi,


I have a grape vine cutting in a 3-1/2" pot consisting of a woody stem
4mm dia and about 100mm long, 50mm in the soil and the rest in the
air. The new growth is from a bud at the very top of the woody stem
and is now up to its third pair of leaves. It needs repotting soon as
roots are showing at the bottom, and here is the question: will the
old woody stem be able to expand or will it constrain future growth? I
could set it deeper in the new pot so that the soil level came up to
the new growth, from where more roots might develop, or is there a
danger of the new shoot rotting if I do that? What would people
advise?


brian mitchell


Pot it at the same depth, the base will eventually get bigger!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea


I think you will bind that the growth is from a graft, If you pot it
deeper then the growth will be different.
As Charlie says the stem will get bigger as the vine grows,
You say the roots are showing out of the bottom of the pot, you dont
say the size of the pot, but I wouldn't be in to much of a hurry to
repot unless the vine has been in the same pot for a year or so.
I'd repot in the spring.
David Hill- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Re reading your post you say a grapevine cutting.
Did you or a friend take a cutting from an existing vine or did you
buy it as a plant?
Also I missed the pot size, Yes repot into a 6 inch pot but take care
you dont dammage the new roots, and dont let it dry out after
repotting
David Hill

brian mitchell 15-07-2009 11:43 PM

grape vine cutting
 
Dave Hill writes:

On 15 July, 12:42, Dave Hill wrote:
On 15 July, 12:11, Charlie Pridham
wrote:





In article ,
says... Hi,


I have a grape vine cutting in a 3-1/2" pot consisting of a woody stem
4mm dia and about 100mm long, 50mm in the soil and the rest in the
air. The new growth is from a bud at the very top of the woody stem
and is now up to its third pair of leaves. It needs repotting soon as
roots are showing at the bottom, and here is the question: will the
old woody stem be able to expand or will it constrain future growth? I
could set it deeper in the new pot so that the soil level came up to
the new growth, from where more roots might develop, or is there a
danger of the new shoot rotting if I do that? What would people
advise?


brian mitchell


Pot it at the same depth, the base will eventually get bigger!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea


I think you will bind that the growth is from a graft, If you pot it
deeper then the growth will be different.
As Charlie says the stem will get bigger as the vine grows,
You say the roots are showing out of the bottom of the pot, you dont
say the size of the pot, but I wouldn't be in to much of a hurry to
repot unless the vine has been in the same pot for a year or so.
I'd repot in the spring.
David Hill- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Re reading your post you say a grapevine cutting.
Did you or a friend take a cutting from an existing vine or did you
buy it as a plant?


I took it from an existing vine earlier this year, knowing nothing about
what I was doing.

Also I missed the pot size, Yes repot into a 6 inch pot but take care
you dont dammage the new roots, and dont let it dry out after
repotting


Thanks. And thanks to Charlie, too. It's an incredibly vigorous vine of
unknown type, the cutting is partly for sentimental reasons. It --the
parent-- produces loads of small, not very sweet red grapes but I like
them and later I'd like to plant the cutting into the ground, next
Spring I suppose, so I'll need more advice about that when the time
comes.

brian mitchell


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