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mike. buckley 19-07-2009 12:33 PM

New garden - help req
 
Hi all,

Just moved to a new house, the garden is a little un-cared for - but
only for a year or so while the move completed. Before I start hacking
around too much I need some plant IDs, photos he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3966580...7621553462651/

The final picture is of an apple tree that looks to have had aphids on
it for some time. I've washed the worst of them off but is it beyond
saving? There's another apple tree within touching distance that is in
great health although they look more like cookers than eaters - have to
try some apple wine :-)


--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2
CB72


K 19-07-2009 01:14 PM

New garden - help req
 
mike. buckley writes
Hi all,

Just moved to a new house, the garden is a little un-cared for - but
only for a year or so while the move completed. Before I start hacking
around too much I need some plant IDs, photos he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3966580...7621553462651/

The final picture is of an apple tree that looks to have had aphids on
it for some time. I've washed the worst of them off but is it beyond
saving?


No, there's no problem. Apple trees can take a lot worse damage than
this.

There's another apple tree within touching distance that is in great
health although they look more like cookers than eaters - have to try
some apple wine :-)


Way too early to tell which they are at the moment! A few apples are
ripe in August, but the rest won't ripen until the autumn. At the moment
they all look green and unappetising ;-)
--
Kay

Kathy 19-07-2009 04:47 PM

New garden - help req
 


"mike. buckley" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

Just moved to a new house, the garden is a little un-cared for - but only
for a year or so while the move completed. Before I start hacking around
too much I need some plant IDs, photos he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3966580...7621553462651/

Picture four looks very much like a plant in my neighbour's garden. He
calls it "The Triffid", which is possibly of no help at all :-} If it is the
same, it produces lots of nasty sharp leaves and silly little flowers on
long stems.

Oh, and "Toastyhamster"?!?

--
Kathy

It's pointless to try and discuss ethics with a spider.




mike. buckley 19-07-2009 07:02 PM

New garden - help req
 
In message , K
writes
mike. buckley writes
Hi all,

Just moved to a new house, the garden is a little un-cared for - but
only for a year or so while the move completed. Before I start hacking
around too much I need some plant IDs, photos he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3966580...7621553462651/

The final picture is of an apple tree that looks to have had aphids on
it for some time. I've washed the worst of them off but is it beyond
saving?


No, there's no problem. Apple trees can take a lot worse damage than
this.


Tempted to prune heavily in winter to remove the damaged areas and go a
year without any fruit. Good idea? Lots of advice for controlling
aphids on the Net but not a lot for helping a tree to recover.

Not many comments on the photos, seem to have stumped a few people :-)

--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2
CB72
http://www.toastyhamster.plus.com

mike. buckley 19-07-2009 07:06 PM

New garden - help req
 
In message , Kathy
writes


"mike. buckley" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

Just moved to a new house, the garden is a little un-cared for - but only
for a year or so while the move completed. Before I start hacking around
too much I need some plant IDs, photos he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3966580...7621553462651/

Picture four looks very much like a plant in my neighbour's garden. He
calls it "The Triffid", which is possibly of no help at all :-} If it is the
same, it produces lots of nasty sharp leaves and silly little flowers on
long stems.

That one has been ID'd as a Phormium and it'll probably be staying after
a tidy up.

Oh, and "Toastyhamster"?!?

Long story - I desperately needed a unique posting name for a hotmail
account and I'd just been playing the Day of the Tentacle PC game. In
effect you played three characters, one in the past (George Washington I
think), one in the present and one in the future. The character in the
present had to put a hamster in deep freeze so the person in the future
could find it and thaw it out (I forget exactly why, it was possibly
require to power a generator) - unfortunately after thawing the hamster
was shivery and cold, so you had to shrink a woolly jumper in the tumble
dryer and fit it to the hamster. Hey presto one toasty hamster!

It was a bit of a quirky game.



--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2
CB72

K 19-07-2009 09:56 PM

New garden - help req
 
mike. buckley writes
In message , K
writes
mike. buckley writes
Hi all,

Just moved to a new house, the garden is a little un-cared for - but
only for a year or so while the move completed. Before I start
hacking around too much I need some plant IDs, photos he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3966580...7621553462651/

The final picture is of an apple tree that looks to have had aphids
on it for some time. I've washed the worst of them off but is it
beyond saving?


No, there's no problem. Apple trees can take a lot worse damage than
this.


Tempted to prune heavily in winter to remove the damaged areas and go a
year without any fruit. Good idea?


Aphids will only damage the leaves, not the wood. Next year the tree
will grow new leaves. So jut do the normal winter prune.

Lots of advice for controlling aphids on the Net but not a lot for
helping a tree to recover.


They don't do enough damage for the tree to need to recover.

--
Kay

Phil Gurr 19-07-2009 10:34 PM

New garden - help req
 

"mike. buckley" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

Just moved to a new house, the garden is a little un-cared for - but only
for a year or so while the move completed. Before I start hacking around
too much I need some plant IDs, photos he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3966580...7621553462651/


Picture 5 (3896) is probably Piptanthus, an evergreen shrub with yellow
pea-like flowers followed by pods which are about 7cm. long.

Phil



beccabunga 20-07-2009 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike. buckley (Post 856903)
Hi all,

Just moved to a new house, the garden is a little un-cared for - but
only for a year or so while the move completed. Before I start hacking
around too much I need some plant IDs, photos he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3966580...7621553462651/

The final picture is of an apple tree that looks to have had aphids on
it for some time. I've washed the worst of them off but is it beyond
saving? There's another apple tree within touching distance that is in
great health although they look more like cookers than eaters - have to
try some apple wine :-)


--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2
CB72


Picture 1 = possibly a laurel
Picture 2 = Smoke tree
Picture 3 = Phormium
Picture 4 = Tree lupin

K 20-07-2009 10:03 AM

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beccabunga writes
Picture 1 = possibly a laurel


No - because a laurel wouldn't have the light coloured undrside to the
leaves.

Picture 2 = Smoke tree
Picture 3 = Phormium
Picture 4 = Tree lupin



--
Kay

Sacha[_4_] 20-07-2009 11:24 AM

New garden - help req
 
On 2009-07-20 10:03:05 +0100, K said:

beccabunga writes
Picture 1 = possibly a laurel


No - because a laurel wouldn't have the light coloured undrside to the leaves.


Could be a Griselinia littoralis?

Picture 2 = Smoke tree


Yes. Cotinus coggyria.

Picture 3 = Phormium
Picture 4 = Tree lupin


I don't think the last is a Tree lupin - the leaves aren't right. It's
just possible it's a Cytisus battandieri with little flower on it. If
the OP lives in a warmish place within striking distance of the sea the
Griselinia tolerates salt air and the Cytisus (if that's what they are)
will survive in a garden that gets only mild frost for short periods.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


matthelliwell 20-07-2009 11:26 AM

New garden - help req
 
On 19 July, 12:33, "mike. buckley" wrote:
Hi all,

Just moved to a new house, the garden is a little un-cared for - but
only for a year or so while the move completed. Before I start hacking
around too much I need some plant IDs, photos he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3966580...7621553462651/

The final picture is of an apple tree that looks to have had aphids on
it for some time. I've washed the worst of them off but is it beyond
saving? *There's another apple tree within touching distance that is in
great health although they look more like cookers than eaters - have to
try some apple wine :-)


Apple wine? Surely that's cider.

Anyway, briefly de-lurking: I've no idea personally but there are some
people very knowledgable about apple tree management over in the Cider
Workshop group: http://groups.google.co.uk/group/cider-workshop

Matt

mike. buckley 20-07-2009 11:47 AM

New garden - help req
 
In message , Sacha
writes
On 2009-07-20 10:03:05 +0100, K said:

beccabunga writes
Picture 1 = possibly a laurel

No - because a laurel wouldn't have the light coloured undrside to
the leaves.


Could be a Griselinia littoralis?

Picture 2 = Smoke tree


Yes. Cotinus coggyria.

Picture 3 = Phormium
Picture 4 = Tree lupin


I don't think the last is a Tree lupin - the leaves aren't right. It's
just possible it's a Cytisus battandieri with little flower on it. If
the OP lives in a warmish place within striking distance of the sea the
Griselinia tolerates salt air and the Cytisus (if that's what they are)
will survive in a garden that gets only mild frost for short periods.


Have to have a good throwing arm - Nottingham :-)

--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2
CB72

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 20-07-2009 11:57 AM

New garden - help req
 
In article , says...
Hi all,

Just moved to a new house, the garden is a little un-cared for - but
only for a year or so while the move completed. Before I start hacking
around too much I need some plant IDs, photos he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3966580...7621553462651/

The final picture is of an apple tree that looks to have had aphids on
it for some time. I've washed the worst of them off but is it beyond
saving? There's another apple tree within touching distance that is in
great health although they look more like cookers than eaters - have to
try some apple wine :-)



Mike
3893 = Ceanothus arborea Trewithan Blue
3894 = Cotinus coggygria
3895 = Phormium tenax
3896 = Cytissus battendeiri

Unless you want lots more apples ignore the aphid problem it will be self
regulating in the long run (put up some tit boxes)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Sacha[_4_] 20-07-2009 12:09 PM

New garden - help req
 
On 2009-07-20 11:47:42 +0100, "mike. buckley" said:

In message , Sacha
writes
On 2009-07-20 10:03:05 +0100, K said:

beccabunga writes
Picture 1 = possibly a laurel
No - because a laurel wouldn't have the light coloured undrside to the leaves.


Could be a Griselinia littoralis?

Picture 2 = Smoke tree


Yes. Cotinus coggyria.

Picture 3 = Phormium
Picture 4 = Tree lupin


I don't think the last is a Tree lupin - the leaves aren't right. It's
just possible it's a Cytisus battandieri with little flower on it. If
the OP lives in a warmish place within striking distance of the sea the
Griselinia tolerates salt air and the Cytisus (if that's what they are)
will survive in a garden that gets only mild frost for short periods.


Have to have a good throwing arm - Nottingham :-)


I don't know anything much about the climate in Nottingham being a
wimpy southerner! Do you have a very sheltered garden? I'm thinking
of the Cytisus which is pretty touch and go in real cold. I've even
lost one in Jersey and here in Devon.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


mike. buckley 20-07-2009 02:46 PM

New garden - help req
 
In message , Charlie
Pridham writes
In article , says...
Hi all,

Just moved to a new house, the garden is a little un-cared for - but
only for a year or so while the move completed. Before I start hacking
around too much I need some plant IDs, photos he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3966580...7621553462651/

The final picture is of an apple tree that looks to have had aphids on
it for some time. I've washed the worst of them off but is it beyond
saving? There's another apple tree within touching distance that is in
great health although they look more like cookers than eaters - have to
try some apple wine :-)



Mike
3893 = Ceanothus arborea Trewithan Blue
3894 = Cotinus coggygria
3895 = Phormium tenax
3896 = Cytissus battendeiri


Excellent - thanks.

Unless you want lots more apples ignore the aphid problem it will be self
regulating in the long run (put up some tit boxes)


Hmm never thought of bird boxes, will maybe give that a go.

--
Mike Buckley
RD350LC2
CB72



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