What kind of worms?
 

I was told here some time ago
that the worms provided with wormeries
are the same as the worms anglers use.

When I went to my locl angling shop and requested worms,
I was asked whether I wanted "rag worms",
which I gathered are for sea angling, or "garden worms".

Which would be most appropriate for a wormery?

--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

What kind of worms?
 

On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:41:53 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:

When I went to my locl angling shop and requested worms, I was asked
whether I wanted "rag worms", which I gathered are for sea angling, or
"garden worms".

Which would be most appropriate for a wormery?


Neither. Brindling

What kind of worms?
 

"Timothy Murphy" wrote in message
...
I was told here some time ago
that the worms provided with wormeries
are the same as the worms anglers use.

When I went to my locl angling shop and requested worms,
I was asked whether I wanted "rag worms",
which I gathered are for sea angling, or "garden worms".

Which would be most appropriate for a wormery?

--

Tiger worms from an angling shop. I suspect he really meant tiger worms, not
garden worms.

mark

What kind of worms?
 

mark writes

"Timothy Murphy" wrote in message
...
I was told here some time ago
that the worms provided with wormeries
are the same as the worms anglers use.

When I went to my locl angling shop and requested worms,
I was asked whether I wanted "rag worms",
which I gathered are for sea angling, or "garden worms".

Which would be most appropriate for a wormery?

--

Tiger worms from an angling shop. I suspect he really meant tiger worms, not
garden worms.

But you should be able to get them free from some humus rich soil. They
breed vary rapidly in the right conditions. I can pick them up in
handfuls from my compost heap, like living spaghetti.
--
Kay

What kind of worms?
 

K wrote:

Tiger worms from an angling shop. I suspect he really meant tiger worms,
not garden worms.

But you should be able to get them free from some humus rich soil. They
breed vary rapidly in the right conditions. I can pick them up in
handfuls from my compost heap, like living spaghetti.

All my worms seem to have died
after I acquired one of these wormeries with several trays,
and transferred my compost from my previous wormery
in a dustbin-like container, with a tap at the bottom.


--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

What kind of worms?
 

Timothy Murphy writes
K wrote:

Tiger worms from an angling shop. I suspect he really meant tiger worms,
not garden worms.

But you should be able to get them free from some humus rich soil. They
breed vary rapidly in the right conditions. I can pick them up in
handfuls from my compost heap, like living spaghetti.

All my worms seem to have died
after I acquired one of these wormeries with several trays,
and transferred my compost from my previous wormery
in a dustbin-like container, with a tap at the bottom.

In that case I'd certainly try and get some free! It sounds like there's
something about the conditions in the new container that isn't right,
and you need to get that sorted first. It'd be a pity to buy some worms
and have them die on you too.


--
Kay

What kind of worms?
 

On Sep 4, 11:27*am, Timothy Murphy wrote:
K wrote:
Tiger worms from an angling shop. I suspect he really meant tiger worms,
not garden worms.

But you should be able to get them free from some humus rich soil. They
breed vary rapidly in the right conditions. I can pick them up in
handfuls from my compost heap, like living spaghetti.

All my worms seem to have died
after I acquired one of these wormeries with several trays,
and transferred my compost from my previous wormery
in a dustbin-like container, with a tap at the bottom.

--
Timothy Murphy *
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

I gave up with my wormery (I live in Monkstown) after 6 months as the
worms never looked very happy and it just never got going. Most food
waste seemed to just accumulate and or/go rotten and it was hard to
keep not too hot or cold or too wet or too dry. Now we have one of
those green cone things that you used to be able to get from somwhere
in Dublin for free or subsidised but we bought it in the eco shop in
Greystones. It is hard work (my wife dug the hole). You have to dig
a big hole and bury half of it but we now put all cooked food waste in
it. We also have a whopping big normal compost heap but now put all
veg. peelings in the cone. It smells at this stage but only if you
lift the lid and put your face close to it. I am hoping the smell
will stabilise when it gets going but even if not, it is still worth
it. Now, nothing smelly ever goes in the domestic refuse.


Des

What kind of worms?
 

Des Higgins writes
I gave up with my wormery (I live in Monkstown) after 6 months as the
worms never looked very happy and it just never got going. Most food
waste seemed to just accumulate and or/go rotten and it was hard to
keep not too hot or cold or too wet or too dry. Now we have one of
those green cone things that you used to be able to get from somwhere
in Dublin for free or subsidised but we bought it in the eco shop in
Greystones. It is hard work (my wife dug the hole). You have to dig a
big hole and bury half of it but we now put all cooked food waste in
it. We also have a whopping big normal compost heap but now put all
veg. peelings in the cone.

Why have you decided not to put veg peelings and cooked food on the
compost heap?

It smells at this stage but only if you lift the lid and put your face
close to it. I am hoping the smell will stabilise when it gets going
but even if not, it is still worth it. Now, nothing smelly ever goes
in the domestic refuse.

Does that mean you put fish heads and meat scraps in the cone?

--
Kay

What kind of worms?
 

On Sep 4, 12:48*pm, K wrote:
Des Higgins writes

I gave up with my wormery (I live in Monkstown) after 6 months as the
worms never looked very happy and it just never got going. *Most food
waste seemed to just accumulate and or/go rotten and it was hard to
keep not too hot or cold or too wet or too dry. *Now we have one of
those green cone things that you used to be able to get from somwhere
in Dublin for free or subsidised but we bought it in the eco shop in
Greystones. *It is hard work (my wife dug the hole). *You have to dig a
big hole and bury half of it but we now put all cooked food waste in
it. *We also have a whopping big normal compost heap but now put all
veg. peelings in the cone.

Why have you decided not to put veg peelings and cooked food on the
compost heap?


We always used to put veg peelings on the compost heap but that was to
get rid of them rather than to make compost. We mainly make compost
from grass clippings and shreddings. Just to get the green cone
going, I decided to put peelings as well as cooked food in, to help it
get going.

It smells at this stage but only if you lift the lid and put your face
close to it. *I am hoping the smell will stabilise when it gets going
but even if not, it is still worth it. *Now, nothing smelly ever goes
in the domestic refuse.

Does that mean you put fish heads and meat scraps in the cone?

Everything that comes off plates after dinner, anything that has gone
off, bones (not much as most of the family are vegetarian), and yes,
fish heads. We only started it a few weeks ago for the first few
weeks it was smelly, I am hoping it will calm down. We did put some
stuff in that would stink to high heaven anyway (meaty bones). It is
a big cone shaped thing. It has a basket underneath that gets buried
about 1.5Mdeep. Initially it has no worms or wildlife. I guess they
will take time to find it.


--
Kay

What kind of worms?
 

In article ,
Des Higgins wrote:
On Sep 4, 12:48=A0pm, K wrote:

Why have you decided not to put veg peelings and cooked food on the
compost heap?

We always used to put veg peelings on the compost heap but that was to
get rid of them rather than to make compost. We mainly make compost
from grass clippings and shreddings. Just to get the green cone
going, I decided to put peelings as well as cooked food in, to help it
get going.

The mind boggles.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

What kind of worms?
 

Des Higgins writes
On Sep 4, 12:48*pm, K wrote:
Des Higgins writes


We always used to put veg peelings on the compost heap but that was to
get rid of them rather than to make compost. We mainly make compost
from grass clippings and shreddings.

I put cardboard and paper on mine as well. In winter, it gets a high
proportion of card and paper, so veg peelings are a welcome addition.


Does that mean you put fish heads and meat scraps in the cone?

Everything that comes off plates after dinner, anything that has gone
off, bones (not much as most of the family are vegetarian), and yes,
fish heads. We only started it a few weeks ago for the first few
weeks it was smelly, I am hoping it will calm down. We did put some
stuff in that would stink to high heaven anyway (meaty bones). It is
a big cone shaped thing. It has a basket underneath that gets buried
about 1.5Mdeep. Initially it has no worms or wildlife. I guess they
will take time to find it.

When I lived in a house with no indoor loo, I had a hole just outside
the back door which took a large amount of urine (on a wet windy night
it's far nicer to use a bucket and tip it outside the back door rather
than head off down the garden and sit in a draughty hut), tea leaves and
veg peelings - it was as sweet as anything and produced wonderful
compost.
--
Kay

What kind of worms?
 

On Sep 4, 1:33*pm, wrote:
In article ,
Des Higgins wrote:

On Sep 4, 12:48=A0pm, K wrote:

Why have you decided not to put veg peelings and cooked food on the
compost heap?

We always used to put veg peelings on the compost heap but that was to
get rid of them rather than to make compost. *We mainly make compost
from grass clippings and shreddings. *Just to get the green cone
going, I decided to put peelings as well as cooked food in, to help it
get going.

The mind boggles.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Half a lobster (I was full and couldn't finish the second one), a big
blob of foie gras and an opened bottle of 1986 Chateau Mouton
Rothschild Pauillac (it really is disappointing the next day so best
to just dump it) went in last night. I hope the worms like it.

What kind of worms?
 

On Sep 4, 1:38*pm, K wrote:
Des Higgins writes

On Sep 4, 12:48*pm, K wrote:
Des Higgins writes

We always used to put veg peelings on the compost heap but that was to
get rid of them rather than to make compost. *We mainly make compost
from grass clippings and shreddings.

I put cardboard and paper on mine as well. In winter, it gets a high
proportion of card and paper, so veg peelings are a welcome addition.



Our compost is not great but it is functional (gets rid of peelings
and garden waste and makes stuff that can be dug in). In winter, ours
tends to sit there in a soggy clammy mess. It still works.



Does that mean you put fish heads and meat scraps in the cone?

Everything that comes off plates after dinner, anything that has gone
off, bones (not much as most of the family are vegetarian), and yes,
fish heads. *We only started it a few weeks ago for the first few
weeks it was smelly, I am hoping it will calm down. *We did put some
stuff in that would stink to high heaven anyway (meaty bones). *It is
a big cone shaped thing. *It has a basket underneath that gets buried
about 1.5Mdeep. *Initially it has no worms or wildlife. *I guess they
will take time to find it.

When I lived in a house with no indoor loo, I had a hole just outside
the back door which took a large amount of urine (on a wet windy night
it's far nicer to use a bucket and tip it outside the back door rather
than head off down the garden and sit in a draughty hut), tea leaves and
veg peelings - it was as sweet as anything and produced wonderful
compost.
--
Kay

I don't suppose you have thought of bottling the urine as K's patented
compost accelerator?

What kind of worms?
 

"Des Higgins" wrote in message
...
On Sep 4, 1:33 pm, wrote:
In article
,
Des Higgins wrote:

On Sep 4, 12:48=A0pm, K wrote:

Why have you decided not to put veg peelings and cooked food on the
compost heap?

We always used to put veg peelings on the compost heap but that was to
get rid of them rather than to make compost. We mainly make compost
from grass clippings and shreddings. Just to get the green cone
going, I decided to put peelings as well as cooked food in, to help it
get going.

The mind boggles.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Half a lobster (I was full and couldn't finish the second one), a big
blob of foie gras and an opened bottle of 1986 Chateau Mouton
Rothschild Pauillac (it really is disappointing the next day so best
to just dump it) went in last night. I hope the worms like it.

I may consider setting up camp next to your compost heap!

What kind of worms?
 

On Sep 4, 1:50*pm, Des Higgins wrote:

I don't suppose you have thought of bottling the urine as K's patented
compost accelerator?-

Too late , they are already selling it under the name of Fosters Lager.

What kind of worms?
 

Des Higgins writes
On Sep 4, 1:38*pm, K wrote:
Des Higgins writes

Our compost is not great but it is functional (gets rid of peelings
and garden waste and makes stuff that can be dug in). In winter, ours
tends to sit there in a soggy clammy mess. It still works.

Ours is much the same. But the result is something which is far better
than our normal clay soil (we are bounded on one side by something
referred to on the Tithe map as the @clay field' and on the other by a
former brickworks). I leave t on top in a 6 inch layer - good side
effect s that weeds are much easier to pull out.


I don't suppose you have thought of bottling the urine as K's patented
compost accelerator?

I would hate to have to commit to a production level that I might not be
able to achieve ;-)

--
Kay

What kind of worms?
 

In article ,
K wrote:
Des Higgins writes

I don't suppose you have thought of bottling the urine as K's patented
compost accelerator?

I would hate to have to commit to a production level that I might not be
able to achieve ;-)

No problem. Just buy the appropriate quantity of beer.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

What kind of worms?
 

On Sep 4, 3:00*pm, wrote:
In article ,

K wrote:
Des Higgins writes

I don't suppose you have thought of bottling the urine as K's patented
compost accelerator?

I would hate to have to commit to a production level that I might not be
able to achieve ;-)

No problem. *Just buy the appropriate quantity of beer.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

As moghouse pointed out; it is called Fosters Lager.
You bypass the kidneys; just pour it on the compost heap straight from
the tinny.

What kind of worms?
 

wrote in message
...
In article ,
K wrote:
Des Higgins writes

I don't suppose you have thought of bottling the urine as K's patented
compost accelerator?

I would hate to have to commit to a production level that I might not be
able to achieve ;-)

No problem. Just buy the appropriate quantity of beer.

Does it not have to be errrrmm processed before it is added?

What kind of worms?
 

"Timothy Murphy" wrote in message
...
I was told here some time ago
that the worms provided with wormeries
are the same as the worms anglers use.

When I went to my locl angling shop and requested worms,
I was asked whether I wanted "rag worms",
which I gathered are for sea angling, or "garden worms".

Which would be most appropriate for a wormery?

If you have enough garden, start a compost heap directly on the soil. All
the worms you want will just arrive ;-)

What kind of worms?
 

"Timothy Murphy" wrote in message
...
K wrote:

Tiger worms from an angling shop. I suspect he really meant tiger worms,
not garden worms.

But you should be able to get them free from some humus rich soil. They
breed vary rapidly in the right conditions. I can pick them up in
handfuls from my compost heap, like living spaghetti.

All my worms seem to have died
after I acquired one of these wormeries with several trays,
and transferred my compost from my previous wormery
in a dustbin-like container, with a tap at the bottom.

Hmm. Make sure rain cannot get in, that you feed them appropriately and
drain off the fluid often otherwise they'll drown.
If you already do this, I've no idea why they've died. Ask the company you
got the wormery from if you're doing something wrong.

I can also pick up worms from my compost heap like living spaghetti, as K
says.
Thousands.

Tina

What kind of worms?
 

Christina Websell wrote:

All my worms seem to have died
after I acquired one of these wormeries with several trays,
and transferred my compost from my previous wormery
in a dustbin-like container, with a tap at the bottom.

Hmm. Make sure rain cannot get in, that you feed them appropriately and
drain off the fluid often otherwise they'll drown.
If you already do this, I've no idea why they've died. Ask the company
you got the wormery from if you're doing something wrong.

I can also pick up worms from my compost heap like living spaghetti, as K
says.
Thousands.

I too had thousands of worms before - very long thin ones -
but as I said they seem to have died.
I followed the instructions provided with the multi-tray Can-O-Worms.
This has a tray at the bottom to catch fluid,
so I don't think the worms drowned.
There are now a large number of flies in the wormery.
I'm thinking perhaps I should clear out what is in the wormery,
and start again.


--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

What kind of worms?
 

In message
,
moghouse wrote
On Sep 4, 1:50*pm, Des Higgins wrote:

I don't suppose you have thought of bottling the urine as K's patented
compost accelerator?-

Too late , they are already selling it under the name of Fosters Lager.

Re-labelling it as a compost accelerator would at least save some poor
soul from having to drink it.
--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

What kind of worms?
 

Timothy Murphy wrote in news:h7qndo$ka9$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

I was told here some time ago
that the worms provided with wormeries
are the same as the worms anglers use.

When I went to my locl angling shop and requested worms,
I was asked whether I wanted "rag worms",
which I gathered are for sea angling, or "garden worms".

Which would be most appropriate for a wormery?


Just to let you know, rag worms are used for sea fishing and are of no use
to you as they are harvested from sea shores under the sand and are "salt
water" variety.

"Garden worms" are what you need, and there are many different types.
Dig some from your garden and put them in your compost heap.
They breed quickly and you will never be without them.

Look here if you want to know more
http://www.campbelltown.sa.gov.au/we...ZWSA_worms.pdf

Hope this helps
Part_No

What kind of worms?
 

In article ,
says...
I was told here some time ago
that the worms provided with wormeries
are the same as the worms anglers use.

When I went to my locl angling shop and requested worms,
I was asked whether I wanted "rag worms",
which I gathered are for sea angling, or "garden worms".

Which would be most appropriate for a wormery?


You don't need to buy them if the stuff is in contact with the soil it
will get full of the correct sort of worms all by its self
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

What kind of worms?
 

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
T...
In article ,
says...
I was told here some time ago
that the worms provided with wormeries
are the same as the worms anglers use.

When I went to my locl angling shop and requested worms,
I was asked whether I wanted "rag worms",
which I gathered are for sea angling, or "garden worms".

Which would be most appropriate for a wormery?


You don't need to buy them if the stuff is in contact with the soil it
will get full of the correct sort of worms all by its self
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea



Picture of the bin on the earth

http://www.myalbum.com/Album=OQFDHPQP



--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk

What kind of worms?
 

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
T...
In article ,
says...
I was told here some time ago
that the worms provided with wormeries
are the same as the worms anglers use.

When I went to my locl angling shop and requested worms,
I was asked whether I wanted "rag worms",
which I gathered are for sea angling, or "garden worms".

Which would be most appropriate for a wormery?


You don't need to buy them if the stuff is in contact with the soil it
will get full of the correct sort of worms all by its self


Exactly. No need to buy them, if you cannot have a proper compost heap ask
a neighbour who has one to give you some to start you off again.
I have hundreds of thousands in my large compost heap.
If OP is desperate and can get them nowhere else, I can send some for the
cost of postage, if he promises to look after them properly ;p

Tina

What kind of worms?
 

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:13:27 +0100, K wrote:

mark writes

"Timothy Murphy" wrote in message
...
I was told here some time ago
that the worms provided with wormeries
are the same as the worms anglers use.

When I went to my locl angling shop and requested worms,
I was asked whether I wanted "rag worms",
which I gathered are for sea angling, or "garden worms".

Which would be most appropriate for a wormery?

--

Tiger worms from an angling shop. I suspect he really meant tiger worms, not
garden worms.

But you should be able to get them free from some humus rich soil. They
breed vary rapidly in the right conditions. I can pick them up in
handfuls from my compost heap, like living spaghetti.

From what I've read about wormeries, the worms are called Brandling or
Tiger worms. They are not the same as garden worms. A local fishing
shop wanted the earth (!) for a box of them. They are stripy.
The best place to get them free, apart from Kay's compost heap, is a
good pile of WRM. When I had manure delivered parts of the pile were
seething with these stripy worms.
However, I've never had much success with wormeries either!

Pam in Bristol

What kind of worms?
 

"Pam Moore" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:13:27 +0100, K wrote:

mark writes

"Timothy Murphy" wrote in message
...
I was told here some time ago
that the worms provided with wormeries
are the same as the worms anglers use.

When I went to my locl angling shop and requested worms,
I was asked whether I wanted "rag worms",
which I gathered are for sea angling, or "garden worms".

Which would be most appropriate for a wormery?

--

Tiger worms from an angling shop. I suspect he really meant tiger worms,
not
garden worms.

But you should be able to get them free from some humus rich soil. They
breed vary rapidly in the right conditions. I can pick them up in
handfuls from my compost heap, like living spaghetti.

From what I've read about wormeries, the worms are called Brandling or
Tiger worms. They are not the same as garden worms. A local fishing
shop wanted the earth (!) for a box of them. They are stripy.
The best place to get them free, apart from Kay's compost heap, is a
good pile of WRM. When I had manure delivered parts of the pile were
seething with these stripy worms.
However, I've never had much success with wormeries either!



Perhaps you could sell your stripey worms to the local fishing shop.

mark

What kind of worms?
 

Pam Moore wrote:

Tiger worms. They are not the same as garden worms. A local fishing
shop wanted the earth (!) for a box of them. They are stripy.
The best place to get them free, apart from Kay's compost heap, is a
good pile of WRM.

WRM ?


--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

What kind of worms?
 

On Sep 9, 11:04*am, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Pam Moore wrote:
Tiger worms. *They are not the same as garden worms. A local fishing
shop wanted the earth (!) for a box of them. They are stripy.
The best place to get them free, apart from Kay's compost heap, is a
good pile of WRM.

WRM ?

--

In gardening circles, it means well rotted manure. Fresh manure is
smelly and not so useful in the soil (to begin with) and plants may
even dislike it. When it is left lying around for 6 months, it
becomes a highly desirable commodity.

What kind of worms?
 

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:14:43 +0100, "mark"
wrote:

Perhaps you could sell your stripey worms to the local fishing shop.

Now why hadn't I thought of that!!!

Pam in Bristol

What kind of worms?
 

Timothy Murphy wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:

All my worms seem to have died
after I acquired one of these wormeries with several trays,
and transferred my compost from my previous wormery
in a dustbin-like container, with a tap at the bottom.

Hmm. Make sure rain cannot get in, that you feed them appropriately
and drain off the fluid often otherwise they'll drown.
If you already do this, I've no idea why they've died. Ask the
company you got the wormery from if you're doing something wrong.

I can also pick up worms from my compost heap like living spaghetti,
as K says.
Thousands.

I too had thousands of worms before - very long thin ones -
but as I said they seem to have died.
I followed the instructions provided with the multi-tray Can-O-Worms.
This has a tray at the bottom to catch fluid,
so I don't think the worms drowned.
There are now a large number of flies in the wormery.
I'm thinking perhaps I should clear out what is in the wormery,
and start again.

There's no point in starting again unless you get to the bottom of the
problem why your worms died in the first place, it will just happen again.
Are they too hot? Make sure the wormery is in shady place at noon. Do they
have enough to eat?
Other than that I don't know.
I have a compost heap with lots of healthy worms in, you don't need much
land to start one. 12 sq ft.