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JamesP 22-09-2009 06:12 PM

What Do I Do
 
I have a mamoth undertaking, I have to plant native hedge and trees around a four acre boundary as part of my planning approval. As it is in the country side I was thinking of taking cuttings from the neighbouring hedges and trees. As I do not know very much about gardening, I would like advice on this.

1. When is a good time to take these cuttings.
2. What should I look for when taking native tree and hedge cuttings.
3. After I take these should I pot these, and if I do, do I keep these in the open or covered.
4. Do I need rooting powder or will compost be OK to plant these.
5. Is there any specis that will take quicker than others.
6. Is there any advice you can give me.

Please if you could shed some light on this I would be very grateful.

Thanks
James

Bigal 22-09-2009 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesP (Post 865107)
I have a mamoth undertaking, I have to plant native hedge and trees around a four acre boundary as part of my planning approval. As it is in the country side I was thinking of taking cuttings from the neighbouring hedges and trees. As I do not know very much about gardening, I would like advice on this.

1. When is a good time to take these cuttings.
2. What should I look for when taking native tree and hedge cuttings.
3. After I take these should I pot these, and if I do, do I keep these in the open or covered.
4. Do I need rooting powder or will compost be OK to plant these.
5. Is there any specis that will take quicker than others.
6. Is there any advice you can give me.

Please if you could shed some light on this I would be very grateful.

Thanks
James

The length of hedging could require up to 3,000 plants, a mamoth undertaking indeed if you are thinking of doing it all yourself. Maybe you should consider a specialist grower - plenty around the country, and some specialising in native plants. Googling will give you a range of suppliers who can also offer a lot of advice.
Bigal

Granity 22-09-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigal (Post 865108)
The length of hedging could require up to 3,000 plants, a mamoth undertaking indeed if you are thinking of doing it all yourself. Maybe you should consider a specialist grower - plenty around the country, and some specialising in native plants. Googling will give you a range of suppliers who can also offer a lot of advice.
Bigal

I agree @ 4plants per metre that's a lot of plants, and without the labour saving equipment a lot of holes to dig.

Have a look @ http://www.chewvalleytrees.co.uk/ it'll give you an idea of what's available for mixed hedging, and the price.

Dave Hill 22-09-2009 11:21 PM

What Do I Do
 
On 22 Sep, 18:52, Bigal wrote:
JamesP;865107 Wrote:





I have a mamoth undertaking, I have to plant native hedge and trees
around a four acre boundary as part of my planning approval. As it is
in the country side I was thinking of taking cuttings from the
neighbouring hedges and trees. As I do not know very much about
gardening, I would like advice on this.


1. When is a good time to take these cuttings.
2. What should I look for when taking native tree and hedge cuttings.
3. After I take these should I pot these, and if I do, do I keep these
in the open or covered.
4. Do I need rooting powder or will compost be OK to plant these.
5. Is there any specis that will take quicker than others.
6. Is there any advice you can give me.


Please if you could shed some light on this I would be very grateful.


Thanks
James


The length of hedging could require up to 3,000 plants, a mamoth
undertaking indeed if you are thinking of doing it all yourself. *Maybe
you should consider a specialist grower - plenty around the country, and
some specialising in native plants. * Googling will give you a range of
suppliers who can also offer a lot of advice.
Bigal

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You can buy young hawthorn by the thousand at a reasonable price, I
would buy them as 40 - 60 cm (Try these people http://www.greenhills-nursery.co.uk/site
), or look in publications such as Farmers weekly.
They will come bare rooted, just dig a small trench and heel them in
to keep the roots moist.
Take them out 1 or 2 hundred at a time, just push your spade in to
open a cut 6 to 9 inches deep, pull the spade back a bit to enlarge
the opening and push 1 plant in, you should be able to plant at least
10 a minute once you get into the swing of it, providing your ground
is reasonable
I would also put in a barbed wire fence to stop animals etc pushing
through.
If you plant in 2 staggered rows you will get a better hedge.
I would add a few bird cherry, mountain ash and possibly Silver birch
trees, then if any of the hawthorn dye off next year fill the spaces
with beech, hornbeam, hazel etc to give you a selection of native
plants,
When I move in here I had to fence and hedge round 3 acres, the hedge
planting took me about 2 weeks including planting around 50 trees of 6
to 8ft tall.
I lost around 20 hawthorn out of around 3000.
I have since (about 3 years later) put in Lonicera Natidia cuttings
amongst the hawthorn to make an evergreen hedge, they were just pushed
in about 6 inches or so, and rooted over the winter, I had a strike
rate of around 80%.
Good luck
It will be worth it.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries.

Dave Hill 22-09-2009 11:24 PM

What Do I Do
 
On 22 Sep, 23:21, Dave Hill wrote:
On 22 Sep, 18:52, Bigal wrote:





JamesP;865107 Wrote:


I have a mamoth undertaking, I have to plant native hedge and trees
around a four acre boundary as part of my planning approval. As it is
in the country side I was thinking of taking cuttings from the
neighbouring hedges and trees. As I do not know very much about
gardening, I would like advice on this.


1. When is a good time to take these cuttings.
2. What should I look for when taking native tree and hedge cuttings.
3. After I take these should I pot these, and if I do, do I keep these
in the open or covered.
4. Do I need rooting powder or will compost be OK to plant these.
5. Is there any specis that will take quicker than others.
6. Is there any advice you can give me.


Please if you could shed some light on this I would be very grateful.


Thanks
James


The length of hedging could require up to 3,000 plants, a mamoth
undertaking indeed if you are thinking of doing it all yourself. *Maybe
you should consider a specialist grower - plenty around the country, and
some specialising in native plants. * Googling will give you a range of
suppliers who can also offer a lot of advice.
Bigal


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Bigal- Hide quoted text -


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You can buy young hawthorn by the thousand at a reasonable price, I
would buy them as 40 - 60 cm (Try these peoplehttp://www.greenhills-nursery.co.uk/site
), or look in publications such as Farmers weekly.
They will come bare rooted, just dig a small trench and heel them in
to keep the roots moist.
Take them out 1 or 2 hundred at a time, just push your spade in to
open a cut 6 to 9 inches deep, pull the spade back a bit to enlarge
the opening and push 1 plant in, you should be able to plant at least
10 a minute once you get into the swing of it, providing your ground
is reasonable
I would also put in a barbed wire fence to stop animals etc pushing
through.
If you plant in 2 staggered rows you will get a better hedge.
I would add a few bird cherry, mountain ash and possibly Silver birch
trees, then if any of the hawthorn dye off next year fill the spaces
with beech, hornbeam, hazel etc to give you a selection of native
plants,
When I move in here I had to fence and hedge round 3 acres, the hedge
planting took me about 2 weeks including planting around 50 trees of 6
to 8ft tall.
I lost around 20 hawthorn out of around 3000.
I have since (about 3 years later) put in Lonicera Natidia cuttings
amongst the hawthorn to make an evergreen hedge, they were just pushed
in about 6 inches or so, and rooted over the winter, I had a strike
rate of around 80%.
Good luck
It will be worth it.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries.- Hide quoted text -

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"just push your spade in to open a cut 6 to 9 inches deep, pull the
spade back a bit to enlarge the opening and push 1 plant in",
I should have then said
and firm the soil back with your heel, just a quick stamp will do it.
David Hill

Mark McIntyre 22-09-2009 11:33 PM

What Do I Do
 
JamesP wrote:
I have a mamoth undertaking, I have to plant native hedge and trees
around a four acre boundary as part of my planning approval.


Hedgelaying is a fairly complex skill, if you want the hedge to keep
people or animals out then you don't just stick in trees every few feet
I'm afraid, you actually need to put in a temporary fence, plant
saplings and then 'lay' them after a year to make the hedge into a hedge
rather than a line of trees. Its different if you're using yew or privet
- but I assume you're going for a native deciduous mixed hedge.

Given the length you have to do (probably 700 yards?) You will need some
specialist advice and assistance. This might help.
http://www.hedgelaying.org.uk/


JamesP 23-09-2009 12:31 PM

Thanks for the great advice. I had hoped that, as I will never get the chance to do something like this again that I would have been able to do it myself. I will chek out these links and see where I go next.

DAVEJ 23-09-2009 05:40 PM

What Do I Do
 

"JamesP" wrote in message
...

Thanks for the great advice. I had hoped that, as I will never get the
chance to do something like this again that I would have been able to
do it myself. I will chek out these links and see where I go next.


http://www.albatrees.co.uk/plantspricelist

Min order 150 plants to get these prices - plus del.



Dave Hill 24-09-2009 10:38 PM

What Do I Do
 
On 23 Sep, 12:31, JamesP wrote:
Thanks for the great advice. I had hoped that, as I will never get the
chance to do something like this again that I would have been able to
do it myself. I will chek out these links and see where I go next.

--
JamesP


Don't wory about layering the hedge for a few years, best to get it to
around 6 ft before you even think of it, my hedges are now up to
around 15 to 20 ft and not yet layered, a good wind break, and the
Lonicera interplanred makes them thick enough to stop most things
(Except ctat, rabbits foxes and badgers) comming through
David Hill

Hedgeman 28-09-2009 12:58 PM

I would not bother with cuttings - that is a mammoth undertaking in itself. Buy bare-root hedging plants and get some friends to help you plant them. Three of you should do 1,000 (ish) plants a day. We planted up about 400 metres last year and got our hedging at www.ashridgetrees.co.uk - outstanding quality and really well priced. There is also a helpful video on how to plant native hedging on the same site

Good luck



Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesP (Post 865107)
I have a mamoth undertaking, I have to plant native hedge and trees around a four acre boundary as part of my planning approval. As it is in the country side I was thinking of taking cuttings from the neighbouring hedges and trees. As I do not know very much about gardening, I would like advice on this.

1. When is a good time to take these cuttings.
2. What should I look for when taking native tree and hedge cuttings.
3. After I take these should I pot these, and if I do, do I keep these in the open or covered.
4. Do I need rooting powder or will compost be OK to plant these.
5. Is there any specis that will take quicker than others.
6. Is there any advice you can give me.

Please if you could shed some light on this I would be very grateful.

Thanks
James



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