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Sacha[_4_] 01-11-2009 02:58 PM

Ladybird invasion
 
There's an article about it in yesterday's Daily Telegraph. They're
being found in huge numbers but many are the rotten furriners called
Harlequins. It's beginning to sound like a sort of red squirrel v.
grey squirrel thing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wil...-invasion.html
--


Sacha


wafflycat 01-11-2009 08:19 PM

Ladybird invasion
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
There's an article about it in yesterday's Daily Telegraph. They're being
found in huge numbers but many are the rotten furriners called Harlequins.
It's beginning to sound like a sort of red squirrel v. grey squirrel
thing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wil...-invasion.html
--


Sacha



I found three harlequins hiding in the folds of my dining room curtains the
other day.


lloyd 01-11-2009 08:34 PM

Ladybird invasion
 
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 14:58:05 +0000, Sacha wrote:

There's an article about it in yesterday's Daily Telegraph. They're
being found in huge numbers but many are the rotten furriners called
Harlequins. It's beginning to sound like a sort of red squirrel v.
grey squirrel thing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wil...-invasion.html


Just like the squirrel thing it's a triggered a warped killing frenzy
of the little blighters. I have about two dozen in my house of both
species and most just huddled away in a corner not causing anyone any
harm. I'm happy to have them. It's a sad day when someone see's
something beautiful and just has to kill it first and then make up
excuses for it afterwards.

Sort of explains why the world is so troubled with that kind of
mentality.



Pete C[_2_] 01-11-2009 10:15 PM

Ladybird invasion
 


lloyd wrote:
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 14:58:05 +0000, Sacha wrote:

There's an article about it in yesterday's Daily Telegraph. They're
being found in huge numbers but many are the rotten furriners called
Harlequins. It's beginning to sound like a sort of red squirrel v.
grey squirrel thing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wil...-invasion.html


Just like the squirrel thing it's a triggered a warped killing frenzy
of the little blighters. I have about two dozen in my house of both
species and most just huddled away in a corner not causing anyone any
harm. I'm happy to have them. It's a sad day when someone see's
something beautiful and just has to kill it first and then make up
excuses for it afterwards.

Sort of explains why the world is so troubled with that kind of
mentality.

I tend to agree. I only kill 'pests', and let nature take care of the rest.
--
Buy a poppy....help a serviceman
Pete C
London UK



Emery Davis[_3_] 02-11-2009 11:42 AM

Ladybird invasion
 
Sacha wrote:
There's an article about it in yesterday's Daily Telegraph. They're
being found in huge numbers but many are the rotten furriners called
Harlequins. It's beginning to sound like a sort of red squirrel v. grey
squirrel thing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wil...-invasion.html


Interesting, we've had many here in Normandy, all Harlequins as far as I
can tell.

-E

Kate Brown 02-11-2009 11:58 AM

Ladybird invasion
 
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Emery Davis wrote
Sacha wrote:
There's an article about it in yesterday's Daily Telegraph. They're
being found in huge numbers but many are the rotten furriners called
Harlequins. It's beginning to sound like a sort of red squirrel v. grey
squirrel thing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wil...it-by-ladybird
-invasion.html


Interesting, we've had many here in Normandy, all Harlequins as far as I
can tell.

-E


Loads here in SELondon too, on fine afternoons there have been positive
clouds of them, and whenever you open a window you find a swarm hiding
in the frame. I don't like them in the house, I don't like these
Harlequins at all, however all would be forgiven if they actually did
what it says on the tin and ate the aphids, but we've had terrible aphid
infestations this year, notably on the rose underneath the favourite
window where they are all hanging out this autumn. Fie, I say, and set
the hoover to max.



--
Kate B

PS 'elvira' is spamtrapped - please reply to 'elviraspam' at cockaigne dot org dot uk if you
want to reply personally

K 02-11-2009 01:49 PM

Ladybird invasion
 
lloyd writes
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 14:58:05 +0000, Sacha wrote:

Just like the squirrel thing it's a triggered a warped killing frenzy
of the little blighters. I have about two dozen in my house of both
species and most just huddled away in a corner not causing anyone any
harm. I'm happy to have them. It's a sad day when someone see's
something beautiful and just has to kill it first and then make up
excuses for it afterwards.

I can see the logic for that. And I agree absolutely about not getting
out the insecticide at the first sight of something unknown around your
plants.

But what when something beautiful, but common and not native, is causing
the demise of something else beautiful and native, and maybe not so
common? Not talking specifics here, just principles.

--
Kay

Sacha[_4_] 02-11-2009 02:20 PM

Ladybird invasion
 
On 2009-11-02 13:49:11 +0000, K said:

lloyd writes
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 14:58:05 +0000, Sacha wrote:

Just like the squirrel thing it's a triggered a warped killing frenzy
of the little blighters. I have about two dozen in my house of both
species and most just huddled away in a corner not causing anyone any
harm. I'm happy to have them. It's a sad day when someone see's
something beautiful and just has to kill it first and then make up
excuses for it afterwards.

I can see the logic for that. And I agree absolutely about not getting
out the insecticide at the first sight of something unknown around your
plants.

But what when something beautiful, but common and not native, is
causing the demise of something else beautiful and native, and maybe
not so common? Not talking specifics here, just principles.


I didn't write any of the above!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


lloyd 02-11-2009 03:20 PM

Ladybird invasion
 
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:49:11 +0000, K wrote:

lloyd writes
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 14:58:05 +0000, Sacha wrote:

Just like the squirrel thing it's a triggered a warped killing frenzy
of the little blighters. I have about two dozen in my house of both
species and most just huddled away in a corner not causing anyone any
harm. I'm happy to have them. It's a sad day when someone see's
something beautiful and just has to kill it first and then make up
excuses for it afterwards.

I can see the logic for that. And I agree absolutely about not getting
out the insecticide at the first sight of something unknown around your
plants.

But what when something beautiful, but common and not native, is causing
the demise of something else beautiful and native, and maybe not so
common? Not talking specifics here, just principles.


I don't see how we can inflict that ideal on the animal kingdom and
yet not on our own world. Though many have tried ie: Nazi's etc. Then
we have the outright lies spoonfed to us by those with an agenda, not
just with the harlequin but also with grey/red squirrels and stuff.
Killing squirrels in London,Kent,Essex,Suffolk,Norfolk,Lincs we have
grown to love and cherish (most of us) does nothing for a red squirrel
in Scotland or Wales, unless you're an obsessive with an agenda. Not
forgetting the squirrels were wiped out by the shooters in the first
place because they classed both red and grey as a pest. Any excuse
will do I guess, I just don't understand why we keep falling for it.

Not to mention the cost to the taxpayer of these silly ideals.



K 02-11-2009 04:09 PM

Ladybird invasion
 
lloyd writes

I don't see how we can inflict that ideal on the animal kingdom and
yet not on our own world.


What about the plant kingdom?

Though many have tried ie: Nazi's etc.


I think that's a misleading analogy.

Not to mention that asking for complete parity between Homo sapiens and
other animal species not only requires you to be vegan, is also as major
medical health implications.

Then
we have the outright lies spoonfed to us by those with an agenda, not
just with the harlequin but also with grey/red squirrels and stuff.
Killing squirrels in London,Kent,Essex,Suffolk,Norfolk,Lincs we have
grown to love and cherish (most of us) does nothing for a red squirrel
in Scotland or Wales, unless you're an obsessive with an agenda.


Well, I suppose that might be why no government yet has tried to
eradicate grey squirrels from London, Kent etc ;-)

--
Kay

lloyd 02-11-2009 05:20 PM

Ladybird invasion
 
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:09:12 +0000, K wrote:

lloyd writes

I don't see how we can inflict that ideal on the animal kingdom and
yet not on our own world.


What about the plant kingdom?


Tsk!

Though many have tried ie: Nazi's etc.


I think that's a misleading analogy.


The cap fits.

Not to mention that asking for complete parity between Homo sapiens and
other animal species not only requires you to be vegan, is also as major
medical health implications.


All it requires is compassion and respect! Is it only vegans who care
any more then? I suppose the BNP would understand the principle or
lack of.

Then
we have the outright lies spoonfed to us by those with an agenda, not
just with the harlequin but also with grey/red squirrels and stuff.
Killing squirrels in London,Kent,Essex,Suffolk,Norfolk,Lincs we have
grown to love and cherish (most of us) does nothing for a red squirrel
in Scotland or Wales, unless you're an obsessive with an agenda.


Well, I suppose that might be why no government yet has tried to
eradicate grey squirrels from London, Kent etc ;-)


It's coming.



K 02-11-2009 05:57 PM

Ladybird invasion
 
lloyd writes
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:09:12 +0000, K wrote:


Not to mention that asking for complete parity between Homo sapiens and
other animal species not only requires you to be vegan, is also as major
medical health implications.


All it requires is compassion and respect! Is it only vegans who care
any more then?


That isn't what I said. But you are clearly pushing your own agenda and
not interested in any sort of sensible discussion.
I suppose the BNP would understand the principle or
lack of.



--
Kay

lloyd 02-11-2009 06:39 PM

Ladybird invasion
 
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:57:02 +0000, K wrote:

lloyd writes
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:09:12 +0000, K wrote:


Not to mention that asking for complete parity between Homo sapiens and
other animal species not only requires you to be vegan, is also as major
medical health implications.


All it requires is compassion and respect! Is it only vegans who care
any more then?


That isn't what I said. But you are clearly pushing your own agenda and
not interested in any sort of sensible discussion.


Life's really too short for intolerance of any kind. Be it against
animals or humans. So you're quite right nothing to discuss, certainly
that could possibly make any sense! Sorry.

I suppose the BNP would understand the principle or
lack of.




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