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Suitable plants for covering a new fence
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We have just taken down 7 conifers which was a nightmare trying to get the stumps out, and had a new fence erected the fence is 21 feet long I want something that will grow about 8 feet in height but nothing that comes out to bushy . With the ground being so dry I have treated the soil first with a bonemeal from the garden centre and then put down several bags of multi purpose compost it is not too bad now as we have had quite a bit of rain so the soil is quite soft I was worried with the conifers taking all the goodness out of the soil that nothing that I planted on the patio seemed to grow so would be grateful of some ideas. Many thanks Mollie |
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Suitable plants for covering a new fence
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Hi We have just taken down 7 conifers which was a nightmare trying to get the stumps out, and had a new fence erected the fence is 21 feet long I want something that will grow about 8 feet in height but nothing that comes out to bushy . With the ground being so dry I have treated the soil first with a bonemeal from the garden centre and then put down several bags of multi purpose compost it is not too bad now as we have had quite a bit of rain so the soil is quite soft I was worried with the conifers taking all the goodness out of the soil that nothing that I planted on the patio seemed to grow so would be grateful of some ideas. Many thanks Mollie I assume you want evergreen cover. In which direction does the fence face? Instead of shrubs, would you be happy to put wires on the fence for climbers? Do you want to avoid plants with thorns? -- Jeff |
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Sorry I took a while in replying only my pc has been of or a few days the garden n question is on the patio area and it is raised -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------\ --------------------------- -------------- --------------- ---------------- |
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Sorry I took a while in replying only my pc has been of or a few days the garden in question is on the patio area and it is raised about 2 and a half feet off the patio the depth of the border is 8ft at the shortest lenght and 12 foot at the longest length . I want to cover the new fence with maybe Clematis a few quick growing ones. (nothing with thorns) also some easy to maintain plants and shrubs the only thing I am now worried about is that we had the stumps from the trees andmy brothere drilled holes in 3 of them put in some stump killer and filled the holes with used oil in the hopes of burning them down but we ended up getting someone in with a stump grinder what I am wondering is with all the debris from the conifers will that affect the planting with him putting oil and stump killer in the stumps Regards Mollie |
Suitable plants for covering a new fence
"mollie38" wrote in message
... 'Jeff Layman[_2_ Wrote: ;868559']mollie38 wrote:- Hi We have just taken down 7 conifers which was a nightmare trying to get the stumps out, and had a new fence erected the fence is 21 feet long I want something that will grow about 8 feet in height but nothing that comes out to bushy . With the ground being so dry I have treated the soil first with a bonemeal from the garden centre and then put down several bags of multi purpose compost it is not too bad now as we have had quite a bit of rain so the soil is quite soft I was worried with the conifers taking all the goodness out of the soil that nothing that I planted on the patio seemed to grow so would be grateful of some ideas. Many thanks Mollie- I assume you want evergreen cover. In which direction does the fence face? Instead of shrubs, would you be happy to put wires on the fence for climbers? Do you want to avoid plants with thorns? -- Jeff Hi Sorry I took a while in replying only my pc has been of or a few days the garden n question is on the patio area and it is raised -- mollie38 Hi Mollie, That's still not a lot of information to go on. However, since the border is on your patio and, I assume, near the house, you will need to be really careful that the roots of these large plants don't invade your house foundations or any underground services, such as sewerage, etc. The area is also likely to be dry, due to the shelter of the house walls .. the rain shadow of the fence .. and the (probably) impervious nature of the patio. Perhaps the planting area is a raised bed, too? Have a look at some of the Jasmines (not J. nudiflorum if you want evergreen cover). They will give you good coverage fairly quickly without stealing too much garden space. Best of all, they will be scented, which is always good near a patio. You will need a wire framework for them to climb on but, once started, will do all the twining themselves. You don't say where you are or if this fence receives good levels of sunlight, so we can only guess. If your area has a mild climate, you could also try Trachelospermum jasminoides which is also scented, but not fully hardy. There are few shrubs which will give you 8' in height *and* be compact in depth without a lot a trimming. That would, effectively, be a hedge with a fair bit of work involved. You have just rid yourself of one mono-culture hedge, so you need to be careful not to replace it with another monster. Do come back and tell us a bit more about your garden, the soil, the aspect and what sort of plants you admire. Spider |
Suitable plants for covering a new fence
On 2009-11-02 17:11:22 +0000, mollie38
said: Hi We have just taken down 7 conifers which was a nightmare trying to get the stumps out, and had a new fence erected the fence is 21 feet long I want something that will grow about 8 feet in height but nothing that comes out to bushy . With the ground being so dry I have treated the soil first with a bonemeal from the garden centre and then put down several bags of multi purpose compost it is not too bad now as we have had quite a bit of rain so the soil is quite soft I was worried with the conifers taking all the goodness out of the soil that nothing that I planted on the patio seemed to grow so would be grateful of some ideas. Many thanks Mollie Where do you live, Mollie? It's no good suggesting plants that will grow by the sea in Cornwall if you live in the Highlands of Scotland. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
Suitable plants for covering a new fence
On 2009-11-05 09:25:30 +0000, mollie38
said: 'Sacha[_4_ Wrote: ;868650']On 2009-11-02 17:11:22 +0000, mollie38 said: - Hi We have just taken down 7 conifers which was a nightmare trying to get the stumps out, and had a new fence erected the fence is 21 feet long I want something that will grow about 8 feet in height but nothing that comes out to bushy . With the ground being so dry I have treated the soil first with a bonemeal from the garden centre and then put down several bags of multi purpose compost it is not too bad now as we have had quite a bit of rain so the soil is quite soft I was worried with the conifers taking all the goodness out of the soil that nothing that I planted on the patio seemed to grow so would be grateful of some ideas. Many thanks Mollie- Where do you live, Mollie? It's no good suggesting plants that will grow by the sea in Cornwall if you live in the Highlands of Scotland. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon Hi Sacha I live on Merseyside we have the corner house in the close which tends to get rather blowy what I am worried about though is the oil that was put in the tree stumps and then the stump grinder scattering the debris do you think it will be all right to plant, would I be able to take a picture and upload it Regards Mollie The oil might affect newly planted trees, according to Ray but that's a risk you'd have to take! For future info, he says you don't really need the oil as well as the grinder! If they've also been ground down and you've put in lots of good material, I should try three or four plants and see if they survive the year. Any planted next year would soon catch up. There's laurel and Aucuba, while beech is good and keeps its leaves if it's kept under about 8' tall. Nurseries and garden centres should be getting bare root hedging stock in soon, once the leaves have fallen and the plants can be dug up. Your problem is going to be keeping the back of the hedge trimmed so you'll have to leave room behind the new hedge for that. If you take a photo you can upload it to a site like tinypic and then post the url here. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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You don't say what direction your fence faces. If you are planning clematis, remember that they always grow and flower into the sun, so no good if your fence faces a northerly or westerly direction - your neighbours will benefit! Work out how the wind affect the plot and start planning windbreaks - small hardy shrubs or small trellises to interrupt the flow. Otherwise your clematis will be blown off the fence. |
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Right I have posted 2 pics on tinypic of the patio area these were taken just after the stumps had been removed by the stump grinder. We have since had a new fence erected but havent been able to do much this week with the rain hopefully tomorrow will be a better day, hubby is out there at the moment removing most of the sandstone from the patio here is the url for the pics http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=dd0x85&s=4 http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=23w4cn6&s=4 Kind regards mary |
Suitable plants for covering a new fence
"mollie38" wrote in message ... beccabunga;868748 Wrote: We took out five conifers in a bed, and had the stumps ground out. Afterwards I dug over the whole bed [18 x 8 feet] with homemade compost and ericaceous compost - we wanted to grow some acid lovers. It was allowed to settle over the winter before planting anything new, which gave plenty of time to plan new plants. You don't say what direction your fence faces. If you are planning clematis, remember that they always grow and flower into the sun, so no good if your fence faces a northerly or westerly direction - your neighbours will benefit! Work out how the wind affect the plot and start planning windbreaks - small hardy shrubs or small trellises to interrupt the flow. Otherwise your clematis will be blown off the fence. Hi Right I have posted 2 pics on tinypic of the patio area these were taken just after the stumps had been removed by the stump grinder. We have since had a new fence erected but havent been able to do much this week with the rain hopefully tomorrow will be a better day, hubby is out there at the moment removing most of the sandstone from the patio here is the url for the pics http://tinyurl.com/yzylhfb http://tinyurl.com/ydz3jm8 Kind regards mary -- mollie38 Hi Mollie, I'm not quite sure how your post and pics got into this thread (!) ... or perhaps I'm the only one to view it here ..? Looking at your pictures, I can see that you have a real problem. Even if you plant a new hedge or border, you've got hardly any access to maintain it. The structure and planting you already have is quite attractive, so you don't really want to be trampling on it. Another problem could be roots invading your water feature, although the conifers you've removed must have been a similar threat. Anyway, here are some suggestions with their associated pros and cons:- Bamboo - pros: can be tall and quick-growing, offering texture, movement and sound. choose solid green or variegated. cons: roots, even of clump-forming types, may invade existing border. Yew - pros: handsome evergreen hedge which will give you 8' and more. will remain green when closely trimmed. cons: you will need access to trim it. Outlook dark. Toxic. Euonymous 'Silver Queen' - pros: Evergreen, variegated shrub which will be tinged pink in cold weather. Bright attractive outlook, even in winter. cons: Best left as informal shrub border, but can be trimmed to hedging. Will need tying back to fence at first, and will usually only grow to 6'. Cotoneaster - pros: choose evergreen or decidous, green or variegated. C. lacteus is often sold as hedging. It is evergreen; white flowers from pink buds; red berries later. C. horizontalis is deciduous. It can be trained to cover a fence. Flowers and berries as lacteus. Brilliant scarlet and orange colour just before leaf fall. cons: May self-seed. Ivy - pros: Evergreen. Most are hardy. Green or variegated. Subtle flowers/berries. Will (eventually) cover 8'; will need tying in at first. Narrow front-to-back. cons: May outgrow it's height and width unless controlled. Hebe 'Midsummer Beauty' - Pros: Lovely. One of the largest Hebes. Covered with purple flowers. Loved by bees and butterflies. Cons: Not compact. May self-seed. "What I would do" - Affix attractive trellis to upper 2' of (neighbour's) fence. I would plant the Euonymous 'Silver Queen' as an informal hedge below and, if need be, rethink planting in existing raised border. Pros: you would have the entire surface of the fence 'broken up' with living or inanimate texture/colour. Leaf fall would be limited to the shedding of older leaves, which would keep the water feature relatively clean. As mentioned above, it is very cheerful to look out on, especially in winter (I have one!). You could tie bird feeders to the trellis in winter, or ornamenta all year. Cons: It will not be an 8' hedge/border. It will not be narrow and linear, if this is really important. You will need to tie it back to the fence to encourage the 6' high coverage. There is bound to be some leaf-drop and dead flower drop. Well, that's plenty to be thinking about. Hopefully, you'll get other suggestions from inspired posters! Spider |
Suitable plants for covering a new fence
"mollie38" wrote in message ... Hi We have just taken down 7 conifers which was a nightmare trying to get the stumps out, and had a new fence erected the fence is 21 feet long I want something that will grow about 8 feet in height but nothing that comes out to bushy . With the ground being so dry I have treated the soil first with a bonemeal from the garden centre and then put down several bags of multi purpose compost it is not too bad now as we have had quite a bit of rain so the soil is quite soft I was worried with the conifers taking all the goodness out of the soil that nothing that I planted on the patio seemed to grow so would be grateful of some ideas. Many thanks Mollie Hi Mollie, Your picture urls have turned up in the 'Snake's Head Fritillary' post! We may never know why. Anyway, I have posted a reply there .... Spider -- mollie38 |
Suitable plants for covering a new fence
On 2009-11-08 18:09:33 +0000, "Spider" said:
"mollie38" wrote in message ... Hi We have just taken down 7 conifers which was a nightmare trying to get the stumps out, and had a new fence erected the fence is 21 feet long I want something that will grow about 8 feet in height but nothing that comes out to bushy . With the ground being so dry I have treated the soil first with a bonemeal from the garden centre and then put down several bags of multi purpose compost it is not too bad now as we have had quite a bit of rain so the soil is quite soft I was worried with the conifers taking all the goodness out of the soil that nothing that I planted on the patio seemed to grow so would be grateful of some ideas. Many thanks Mollie Hi Mollie, Your picture urls have turned up in the 'Snake's Head Fritillary' post! We may never know why. Anyway, I have posted a reply there .... Spider -- mollie38 How innovative. Haven't seen that yet! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
Suitable plants for covering a new fence
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-11-08 18:09:33 +0000, "Spider" said: "mollie38" wrote in message ... Hi We have just taken down 7 conifers which was a nightmare trying to get the stumps out, and had a new fence erected the fence is 21 feet long I want something that will grow about 8 feet in height but nothing that comes out to bushy . With the ground being so dry I have treated the soil first with a bonemeal from the garden centre and then put down several bags of multi purpose compost it is not too bad now as we have had quite a bit of rain so the soil is quite soft I was worried with the conifers taking all the goodness out of the soil that nothing that I planted on the patio seemed to grow so would be grateful of some ideas. Many thanks Mollie Hi Mollie, Your picture urls have turned up in the 'Snake's Head Fritillary' post! We may never know why. Anyway, I have posted a reply there .... Spider mollie38 How innovative. Haven't seen that yet! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon It wasn't on RG's computer either. Fortunately, I showed him this 'innovation' on my computer, otherwise I'd think I was seeing things! I imagine everyone else has these urls in their proper place? Typical! Why me? :~) Spider |
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