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Sacha[_4_] 09-11-2009 07:00 PM

Small flowered Argyranthemum
 
We have a small flowered, single, white Argyranthemum we're trying to
ID. Either Ray got it from Tresco or he's been given it. It's a very
simple and charming little thing with a 'fluffy' centre which is a
sort of yellow/rusty pink colour. The flower is about 1" across so is
probably/possibly an A. frutescens? Am I on the right track with that?
It's tender, very simple, very lovely, IMO. Any ideas that will help
to ID it will be very welcome.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


Bill Grey 09-11-2009 08:34 PM

Small flowered Argyranthemum
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
We have a small flowered, single, white Argyranthemum we're trying to ID.
Either Ray got it from Tresco or he's been given it. It's a very simple
and charming little thing with a 'fluffy' centre which is a sort of
yellow/rusty pink colour. The flower is about 1" across so is
probably/possibly an A. frutescens? Am I on the right track with that?
It's tender, very simple, very lovely, IMO. Any ideas that will help to
ID it will be very welcome.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


Does this help:-

http://www.gardensandplants.com/uk/p...x?plant_id=251

Google is my mentor :-)

Bill



Sacha[_4_] 09-11-2009 10:56 PM

Small flowered Argyranthemum
 
On 2009-11-09 20:34:23 +0000, "Bill Grey" said:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
We have a small flowered, single, white Argyranthemum we're trying to ID.
Either Ray got it from Tresco or he's been given it. It's a very simple
and charming little thing with a 'fluffy' centre which is a sort of
yellow/rusty pink colour. The flower is about 1" across so is
probably/possibly an A. frutescens? Am I on the right track with that?
It's tender, very simple, very lovely, IMO. Any ideas that will help to
ID it will be very welcome.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


Does this help:-

http://www.gardensandplants.com/uk/p...x?plant_id=251

Google is my mentor :-)

Bill


Thanks, Bill - pretty isn't it, grown like that? But no, that's not
it. I've looked at Google but didn't have a lot of time for that
today. The centre of this isn't yellow, though there's some yellow in
it. I think all the flowers have been cut back now but if I find one
tomorrow, I'll photograph it.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


Jess N 11-11-2009 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sacha[_4_] (Post 869076)
On 2009-11-09 20:34:23 +0000, "Bill Grey" said:


"Sacha"
wrote in message
...
We have a small flowered, single, white Argyranthemum we're trying to ID.
Either Ray got it from Tresco or he's been given it. It's a very simple
and charming little thing with a 'fluffy' centre which is a sort of
yellow/rusty pink colour. The flower is about 1" across so is
probably/possibly an A. frutescens? Am I on the right track with that?
It's tender, very simple, very lovely, IMO. Any ideas that will help to
ID it will be very welcome.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


Does this help:-

http://www.gardensandplants.com/uk/p...x?plant_id=251

Google is my mentor :-)

Bill


Thanks, Bill - pretty isn't it, grown like that? But no, that's not
it. I've looked at Google but didn't have a lot of time for that
today. The centre of this isn't yellow, though there's some yellow in
it. I think all the flowers have been cut back now but if I find one
tomorrow, I'll photograph it.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

There's one called 'angelic snow' which doesn't really have a yellow centre.

:)

FarmI 12-11-2009 05:53 AM

Planting while flowering
 
"Jess N" wrote in message
...

In general, what do people think of planting anything while it is in
flower?

It feels like it's a bad idea because if the plant's already putting
the effort in to creating flowers adding the hassle of settling in to a
new place might be mean.

I ask because I realised I have always avoided it but no one ever told
me to!

Maybe it isn't that bad?


Your post made me think a bit. I too have the view that it's 'not good' to
plant while plants are in flower but I realise that I've done it often and
seemingly with no long term bad result for the plant.

I've even moved already in the soil and not just in pots whilst they are in
flower (usually bulbs because I've I thought of them/saw them/encountered
them.



'Mike'[_4_] 12-11-2009 08:16 AM

Planting while flowering
 

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au...
"Jess N" wrote in message
...

In general, what do people think of planting anything while it is in
flower?

It feels like it's a bad idea because if the plant's already putting
the effort in to creating flowers adding the hassle of settling in to a
new place might be mean.

I ask because I realised I have always avoided it but no one ever told
me to!

Maybe it isn't that bad?


Your post made me think a bit. I too have the view that it's 'not good'
to plant while plants are in flower but I realise that I've done it often
and seemingly with no long term bad result for the plant.

I've even moved already in the soil and not just in pots whilst they are
in flower (usually bulbs because I've I thought of them/saw
them/encountered them.


Blaby Rose Gardens in Leicestershire were the first we encountered where we
could buy the 'Instant Garden' back in the 1960's. Since then we have bought
plants in flower from such as B&Q and other Garden Centres and planted them
out :-))


--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk





Charlie Pridham[_2_] 12-11-2009 10:10 AM

Planting while flowering
 
In article ,
says...

In general, what do people think of planting anything while it is in
flower?

It feels like it's a bad idea because if the plant's already putting
the effort in to creating flowers adding the hassle of settling in to a
new place might be mean.

I ask because I realised I have always avoided it but no one ever told
me to!

Maybe it isn't that bad?

Jess




--
Jess N

With container grown plants I think it makes little difference for a
hardy plant.
It certainly used to be the case that plants were moved/planted while
dormant when they were being lifted rootballed and sold but that was
before I started gardening!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Sacha[_4_] 12-11-2009 10:33 AM

Planting while flowering
 
On 2009-11-11 20:27:59 +0000, Jess N said:


In general, what do people think of planting anything while it is in
flower?

It feels like it's a bad idea because if the plant's already putting
the effort in to creating flowers adding the hassle of settling in to a
new place might be mean.

I ask because I realised I have always avoided it but no one ever told
me to!

Maybe it isn't that bad?

Jess


If you mean moving a plant that's in the ground, it's usual to wait
until the plant is dormant. In 'the old days' most nurseries sold
plants during their dormant period. Container growing changed all
that. But that's one of the reasons bare-root plants for e.g. hedging
aren't dug up for sale until all their leaves have dropped. They've
taken up nourishment, absorbed sunlight and are going into dormancy.
However, if you *have* to move a flowering plant, again dig a large
hole and take a really huge amount of soil from around its roots when
you dig up your plant, trying to simulate the effects of a container,
i.e. not disturbing the roots but just plopping them from one container
(plastic) to another (ground) There's a fair chance you'll lose the
flowers for that year but it might not happen. Even if it does, the
plant should live to come back next year, assuming it's a perennial or
shrub, of course!
If you mean container grown plants, most nuseries and garden centres
sell more things when they're in flower because the public see what
they look like. If a big enough hole is dug, carefully back filled so
as not to harm the roots and the plant watered in, it will hardly know
anything's happened.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


Phil Gurr 12-11-2009 12:10 PM

Planting while flowering
 

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
T...
In article ,
says...
With container grown plants I think it makes little difference for a
hardy plant.
It certainly used to be the case that plants were moved/planted while
dormant when they were being lifted rootballed and sold but that was
before I started gardening!


When I did my training in the mid 1950's on a large nursery specialising in
herbaceous plants, the practise was to rootball the plants when lifted
around early April. Delphiniums, sidalceas, asters etc. were packed 12 to a
kipper box. Polyanthus (in flower) were packed 15 to a box, and there were
never any complaints about plants dying. The winter job was always to mend
the returnable kipper boxes!

Phil



Jess N 12-11-2009 05:53 PM

I seem to have morphed the thread into something other than Argyranthemum!
Oops.

Looks like I might as well let my partner buy plants in flower then if he wants to after all!

Now I feel like having Kippers!

Thanks

Jess

Sacha[_4_] 13-11-2009 11:05 AM

Small flowered Argyranthemum
 
On 2009-11-12 17:53:38 +0000, Jess N said:


Phil Gurr;869258 Wrote:
"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
T...-
In article
,
says...
With container grown plants I think it makes little difference for a
hardy plant.
It certainly used to be the case that plants were moved/planted while
dormant when they were being lifted rootballed and sold but that was
before I started gardening!-

When I did my training in the mid 1950's on a large nursery
specialising in
herbaceous plants, the practise was to rootball the plants when lifted

around early April. Delphiniums, sidalceas, asters etc. were packed 12
to a
kipper box. Polyanthus (in flower) were packed 15 to a box, and there
were
never any complaints about plants dying. The winter job was always to
mend
the returnable kipper boxes!

Phil


I seem to have morphed the thread into something other than
Argyranthemum!
Oops.

Looks like I might as well let my partner buy plants in flower then if
he wants to after all!

Now I feel like having Kippers!

Thanks

Jess


Oh yes, if he's buying things in containers, it shouldn't be any
problem. But bear in mind that if it gets wet(ter) and cold(er) some
things might rot off at the roots and won't, in any case, put on any
growth until spring if the ground is cold. If it's still fairly mild
where you are, plant things by all means but make sure they drain well,
if they're not pond plants! Protect anything on the tender or very
young side from winter winds and frosts.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon



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