On 2009-11-14 10:50:36 +0000, aquachimp
said:

On Nov 13, 6:43*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-11-13 15:47:11 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:





"Martin" wrote in message
news On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:27:05 GMT, Janet Baraclough

wrote:

The message
from "Muddymike" contains these words:

The question is answered.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/c...re/8357134.stm

Don't worry is from the BBC so is quite safe to open.

*The NTS must have been reading advice on urg

reading = copying from? )
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I can't believe it's attracted all this comment, it's a non-question.

As we've all discovered, plant material composts. It sets off by
itself, with or without urine. I've had as small an amount as a
wheelbarrow full of weeds set off. Urinating on the compost stems from
there being no toilets on allotments. AFAIK it does no harm, but if you
don't do it the stuff composts anyway.

Steve

Certainly but AIUI, it's acting as an accelerant. *I must admit I don't
quite see why this compost is needed so quickly but.....!
--

But the excuse is that it saves on flushing the loo.
There an article on this within the telegraph also. It surprises me
that it gets so much attention. I had always thought that there were a
number of people here who seemed a tad obsessed with it, but now I see
that they are clearly not the only ones.
I'm used the word "excuse" deliberately because somehow, call it
instinct, I often got the impression that what the somewhat potty pro-
pee proclaimers were really after was an excuse to 'mark' their
territory, as opposed to working in a very large garden, or that of
someone else's where it would be impractical to travel all the way
back and remove muddy footwear, or unwelcomed to do so.

I wonder if their dogs trot along behind them..........
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

A limeric I wrote in memory of a friend at school telling me that his uncle used to pee in a bucket and water the roses:

There was on old man from Nantucket,
Who would widdle into a bucket,
He spread it around,
All over the ground
Most especially around his roses he'd chuck it.

He wasn't from Nantucket, but it does rhyme with bucket.

Urea is actually one of the most potent fertilisers as it is approximtely 43% Nitrogen (or so I remember from my college days).

Over use will damage the plants though!

In message ,
writes
In article ,
Gordon H wrote:
In message , Martin
writes

"Except in cases of kidney or urinary tract infection (UTI), urine is
virtually
sterile and nearly odourless."

It tastes rather salty.

Probably not with my salt consumption, though I admit I haven't
tasted it. It will be salty if you are eating excess salt (as most
people do), and not if you don't.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

It must have some relevance to salt consumption I suppose, although I
try to keep my salt intake down due to high BP.
I am not about to indulge in further tests, however!

I listened to a Radio 4 programme some time ago where a group of
presenters were persuaded to "taste their own", and thought that if it
was good enough for R4 then I ought to try it as a one-off.
It's less distasteful if you let it cool first.
;-)
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Gordon H
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On Nov 14, 2:42*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-11-14 10:50:36 +0000, aquachimp
said:



On Nov 13, 6:43*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-11-13 15:47:11 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:

"Martin" wrote in message
news On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:27:05 GMT, Janet Baraclough

wrote:

The message
from "Muddymike" contains these words:

The question is answered.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/c...re/8357134.stm

Don't worry is from the BBC so is quite safe to open.

*The NTS must have been reading advice on urg

reading = copying from? )
--

I can't believe it's attracted all this comment, it's a non-question.

As we've all discovered, plant material composts. It sets off by
itself, with or without urine. I've had as small an amount as a
wheelbarrow full of weeds set off. Urinating on the compost stems from
there being no toilets on allotments. AFAIK it does no harm, but if you
don't do it the stuff composts anyway.

Steve

Certainly but AIUI, it's acting as an accelerant. *I must admit I don't
quite see why this compost is needed so quickly but.....!
--

But the excuse is that it saves on flushing the loo.
There an article on this within the telegraph also. It surprises me
that it gets so much attention. I had always thought that there were a
number of people here who seemed a tad obsessed with it, but now I see
that they are clearly not the only ones.
I'm used the word "excuse" deliberately because somehow, call it
instinct, I often got the impression that what the somewhat potty pro-
pee proclaimers were really after was an excuse to 'mark' their
territory, as opposed to working in a very large garden, or that of
someone else's where it would be impractical to travel all the way
back and remove muddy footwear, or unwelcomed to do so.

I wonder if their dogs trot along behind them..........
--

Taking notes no doubt.


Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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The message
from ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ contains these words:

If you've really got a kidney or tract infection you will seriously
not want to be stood around the lotty/garden peeing or not

If you've really REALLY got one, you probably won't have enough time
to run indoors.

And that is from an expert!(:-)

Alan




Janet.

"Gordon H" wrote in message
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In message , Martin
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:08:09 +0000, ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:34:19 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:41:08 +0000, ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:12:02 -0500, wrote:

In the States it is a crime to pull out your tally whacker in public
or
in your own yard. It is considered an eye sore and what it produces is
now called dangerous bio-hazardous waste. I'll just stick to using
Miracle Grow.


Freshly voided urine is almost invariably sterile.

Invariably depending on whether the person has or has not some sorts of
infection

Freshly voided urine is almost invariably sterile

"Except in cases of kidney or urinary tract infection (UTI), urine is
virtually
sterile and nearly odourless."

It tastes rather salty.

I've never tasted it yet, but if I were in a situation where no water was
available I would do it without doubt.


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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2009-11-14 11:01:19 +0000, ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ said:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:49:38 -0500, wrote:

I thought I was the only older gent here until I seen Sacha's post. What
young folk don't seem to think about is when you get older the Doctors
put you on all sorts of prescription medicines .

Oh dear, I wonder what drug Sacha has been on!!

I don't *think* my voice is getting deeper. ;-) Does Yorkshire Tea count?

Surely you do NOT drink Yorkshire Tea?

How dreadfull!

Alan



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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

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I thought I was the only older gent here until I seen Sacha's post. What
young folk don't seem to think about is when you get older the Doctors
put you on all sorts of prescription medicines so how can your drug
tainted sterilized urine on the compost pile be safe to use?.

You can't but, if it isn't, the drugs will probably kill you in
short order anyway.

I've heard of urine being used for compost piles many years ago but that
it was only being used by 3rd world people who were to poor to buy a box
of Miracle grow.

Well, you haven't been following this group long, or read its FAQs.
All of us old-fashioned gentlemen **** on the compost heap, unless
there are ladies present.

So that is where I've been going wrong!(:-)

Alan




Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:25:17 -0000, "alan.holmes"
wrote:




Freshly voided urine is almost invariably sterile

"Except in cases of kidney or urinary tract infection (UTI), urine is
virtually
sterile and nearly odourless."

It tastes rather salty.

I've never tasted it yet, but if I were in a situation where no water was
available I would do it without doubt.

If you've tasted Double Diamond or Watney's you'll have a good idea of
the taste.


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®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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All of us old-fashioned gentlemen **** on the compost heap, unless
there are ladies present.

Oldfashioned ladies discreetly avert their eyes. The rest of us don't
bother; and what's more, we
**** on the compost heap too.

But I have been under the impression that womens pee is not good for
compost, but mens pee is ideal.

Alan




Janet

"wafflycat" wrote in message
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"Pam Moore" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:32:27 -0000, "Muddymike"
wrote:

The question is answered.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/c...re/8357134.stm

Don't worry is from the BBC so is quite safe to open.

The very article has just been discussed by Jeremy Vine on Radio 2.
Why are people so prudish? I know that Adam Hart-Davis had a
straw-bale toilet in his Bristol garden and encouraged male visitors
to use it. Why are some people so prudish?
It's tough being a woman, but Google for Shewee.

Pam in Bristol

Dear husband & I pee in a bucket kept next to loo. Every day the contents
are then poured on the compost heap. No need to display bodily parts to
all & sundry or to leap up & down waving knickers in the air as some of
the more prudish seem to think putting pee on the compost heap involves.

A also have a Shewee... every lady cyclist should have one ;-)

I think I'll stick to the Heewee!(:-)

Alan

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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vicky wrote ...
wafflycat wrote:
A also have a Shewee... every lady cyclist should have one ;-)

Umm. I'm sure I'm being very unimaginative here, but what difference
does cycling make to the requirement for one?

Much easier when out cycling the wilds of the country lanes and the only
place to 'go' is that large bed of nettles...

Oh right, so not specifically cycling as "wandering far from home"
aspect. That's ... kind of a relief. (As someone who uses a bike to
get from A to B rather than for the scenery, it didn't really click in
my brain). I prsume it would be equally useful to hikers, orienteers,
campers, etc.

And if you get caught for any time in serious stationary traffic on a
Motorway, no point in being prudish, happened to me on the M25 in Essex
and on a road near Bordeaux.

And you used a 'Sheewee'?

Alan




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Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-11-13 15:47:11 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:


"Martin" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:27:05 GMT, Janet Baraclough

wrote:

The message
from "Muddymike" contains these words:

The question is answered.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/c...re/8357134.stm

Don't worry is from the BBC so is quite safe to open.

The NTS must have been reading advice on urg

reading = copying from? )
--

I can't believe it's attracted all this comment, it's a non-question.

As we've all discovered, plant material composts. It sets off by itself,
with or without urine. I've had as small an amount as a wheelbarrow full
of weeds set off. Urinating on the compost stems from there being no
toilets on allotments. AFAIK it does no harm, but if you don't do it the
stuff composts anyway.

Steve

Certainly but AIUI, it's acting as an accelerant. I must admit I don't
quite see why this compost is needed so quickly but.....!

There is some stuff on salecannot remember the name but it is marketed as an
organic accelerant for compost and costs a bomb, what I don't understand is
why people pay for it when it obviously comes free!

Alan





nnials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message
from Sacha contains these words:
It's a well known breaker down of compost but
I raised the medical thing because what flitted through my mind is how
very careful some people are about not using animal manure that
contains veterinary medicines.

Many veterinary medicines used on herbivores, are intended to kill
insect parasites, including intestinal worms in the colon. Faeces
containing active ingredients
could possibly reach and kill beneficial worms, insects and organisms
in a compost heap.

It's rare for UK gardeners to take any parasitical medication by
mouth let alone vermifuges so the same caveat hardly applies to their
urine.

Janet

I am finding this thread incredibly uplifting. How very civilised to be
able to talk about a perfectly natural bodily function without rancour. ;-)

Bobbie

--
"...nothing so good for the inside of a man as the
outside of a hoss".
An old cowboy adage.

"aquachimp" wrote in message
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On Nov 14, 1:51 pm, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:32:18 +0000 (GMT), wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
I thought I was the only older gent here until I seen Sacha's post. What
young folk don't seem to think about is when you get older the Doctors
put you on all sorts of prescription medicines so how can your drug
tainted sterilized urine on the compost pile be safe to use?.

You can't but, if it isn't, the drugs will probably kill you in
short order anyway.

I've heard of urine being used for compost piles many years ago but that
it was only being used by 3rd world people who were to poor to buy a box
of Miracle grow.

Well, you haven't been following this group long, or read its FAQs.
All of us old-fashioned gentlemen **** on the compost heap, unless
there are ladies present.

I hope you allow for the wind too.
--

Martin

With allowances for fictional licence, I once saw an American
detective programme in which one of the younger (late teens - early
twenties) characters was a registered sex-offender on account of
having peed into a public fountain.
It was not that the fountain was public that resulted in his
registration, but that there had been some (female) children in the
vicinity at the time.
I don't know if, for the sake of the realism, the kids had to be
female, otherwise, public urinals within the 'Gents' would be
problematic, or if, had the kids being male would have brought about
the same charges resulting from ****ing an non-designated, official
****ing point.

So, peeing in ones own compost bin, within one's own property within
sight of a minor....?

With the increase of females and children present on our field, warning
notices were put up this spring about checking the vicinity before peeing on
your heap. Being female, Ann and I have a bucket in the shed.

The field committee have persuaded the local council to cough up the money
for a composting loo for the field.

--
Kathy