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[email protected] 16-11-2009 10:49 AM

clematis
 
I have what is only described on the label as a "summer flowering
clematis", burgundy colour . First year it flowered, and I cut it back
in the autumn. Next year, masses of foliage, but no blooms, so I
didn't cut it back. This year, again, masses of foliage and now,
halfway through November, a few blooms at the very top of the plant.
Given the lack of information I have about it, I don't know what to do
for the best (or when to do it). Any advice welcome.

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 16-11-2009 12:52 PM

clematis
 
In article 78b0f80a-7537-4306-943b-
,
says...
I have what is only described on the label as a "summer flowering
clematis", burgundy colour . First year it flowered, and I cut it back
in the autumn. Next year, masses of foliage, but no blooms, so I
didn't cut it back. This year, again, masses of foliage and now,
halfway through November, a few blooms at the very top of the plant.
Given the lack of information I have about it, I don't know what to do
for the best (or when to do it). Any advice welcome.

should be safe to cut bach hardish during winter, there are several
hybrids like 'Lady Betty Balfour' which in a cool summer will not flower
before November but they all flower on new wood so hard pruning before
growth restarts will not effect the flowering time. (they are all rubbish
here!!)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

[email protected] 16-11-2009 03:46 PM

clematis
 
On 16 Nov, 12:52, Charlie Pridham wrote:
In article 78b0f80a-7537-4306-943b-
,
says... I have what is only described on the label as a "summer flowering
clematis", burgundy colour . First year it flowered, and I cut it back
in the autumn. Next year, masses of foliage, but no blooms, so I
didn't cut it back. This year, again, masses of foliage and now,
halfway through November, a few blooms at the very top of the plant.
Given the lack of information I have about it, I don't know what to do
for the best (or when to do it). Any advice welcome.


should be safe to cut bach hardish during winter, there are several
hybrids like 'Lady Betty Balfour' which in a cool summer will not flower
before November but they all flower on new wood so hard pruning before
growth restarts will not effect the flowering time. (they are all rubbish
here!!)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea


Thanks, Charlie. Just what I needed to know. I thought we'd had quite
a reasonable summer :-)

K 16-11-2009 04:05 PM

clematis
 
" writes
Thanks, Charlie. Just what I needed to know. I thought we'd had quite a
reasonable summer :-)


You obviously don't live in Yorkshire
--
Kay

Jeff Layman[_2_] 16-11-2009 06:01 PM

clematis
 
wrote:
I have what is only described on the label as a "summer flowering
clematis", burgundy colour . First year it flowered, and I cut it back
in the autumn. Next year, masses of foliage, but no blooms, so I
didn't cut it back. This year, again, masses of foliage and now,
halfway through November, a few blooms at the very top of the plant.
Given the lack of information I have about it, I don't know what to do
for the best (or when to do it). Any advice welcome.


I am afraid that this also seems to be my experience with the summer and
autumn flowering hybrids. No problems with alpina and montana, or the
evergreen types such as cirrhosa balearica, armandii, or uncinata. Yet I
see perfect specimens in other gardens, so it must be something I am doing
wrong!

--
Jeff



Charlie Pridham[_2_] 17-11-2009 12:19 PM

clematis
 
In article , lid
says...
wrote:
I have what is only described on the label as a "summer flowering
clematis", burgundy colour . First year it flowered, and I cut it back
in the autumn. Next year, masses of foliage, but no blooms, so I
didn't cut it back. This year, again, masses of foliage and now,
halfway through November, a few blooms at the very top of the plant.
Given the lack of information I have about it, I don't know what to do
for the best (or when to do it). Any advice welcome.


I am afraid that this also seems to be my experience with the summer and
autumn flowering hybrids. No problems with alpina and montana, or the
evergreen types such as cirrhosa balearica, armandii, or uncinata. Yet I
see perfect specimens in other gardens, so it must be something I am doing
wrong!


The problem ones are all jackmanii types, stick to the viticella types
for trouble free clematis, some recommends
Etoile Violette
Kermesina
Emelia Plater
All flower between June and September
There are hundreds but these are a good start point
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

[email protected] 17-11-2009 12:30 PM

clematis
 
On 16 Nov, 18:01, "Jeff Layman" wrote:
wrote:
I have what is only described on the label as a "summer flowering
clematis", burgundy colour . First year it flowered, and I cut it back
in the autumn. Next year, masses of foliage, but no blooms, so I
didn't cut it back. This year, again, masses of foliage and now,
halfway through November, a few blooms at the very top of the plant.
Given the lack of information I have about it, I don't know what to do
for the best (or when to do it). Any advice welcome.


I am afraid that this also seems to be my experience with the summer and
autumn flowering hybrids. *No problems with alpina and montana, or the
evergreen types such as cirrhosa balearica, armandii, or uncinata. *Yet I
see perfect specimens in other gardens, so it must be something I am doing
wrong!

--
Jeff


I noticed when re-potting a "Romance" (why do people keep buying us
clematis as a present?) that the roots were all round the bottom of
the pot, almost as though it was trying to avoid the compost. From
this I gather it needs a deep container, but whether there was too
much or too little water I'm not sure.

[email protected] 17-11-2009 12:32 PM

clematis
 
On 16 Nov, 16:05, K wrote:
" writes

Thanks, Charlie. Just what I needed to know. I thought we'd had quite a
reasonable summer :-)


You obviously don't live in Yorkshire
--
Kay


I'm down in Kent, and my test of a good summer is the tomato crop,
which was excellent

No Name 17-11-2009 03:38 PM

clematis
 
wrote:
I'm down in Kent, and my test of a good summer is the tomato crop,
which was excellent


Indoor or out? My indoor tomatoes are still going! I thought they had
all but finished, then I started hacking away some of the foliage (which
went a bit mad when I took my eye off them for a while!) and found
another couple of pound of bright red and yellow fruits hiding there!

K 17-11-2009 04:23 PM

clematis
 
" writes
On 16 Nov, 16:05, K wrote:
" writes

Thanks, Charlie. Just what I needed to know. I thought we'd had quite a
reasonable summer :-)


You obviously don't live in Yorkshire
--


I'm down in Kent, and my test of a good summer is the tomato crop,
which was excellent


Yeah - we were dimly aware that you lot weren't sharing our summer
experience.

My test of a good summer is how many times I empty my water butt. Not at
all this year.
--
Kay

[email protected] 17-11-2009 05:03 PM

clematis
 
On 17 Nov, 15:38, wrote:
wrote:
I'm down in Kent, and my test of a good summer is the tomato crop,
which was excellent


Indoor or out? *My indoor tomatoes are still going! *I thought they had
all but finished, then I started hacking away some of the foliage (which
went a bit mad when I took my eye off them for a while!) and found
another couple of pound of bright red and yellow fruits hiding there!


Outdoors. We're sub tropical down here you know :-)


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