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Dear All,
As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
planet. It will also affect us;
rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
due to droughts are some of the effects.
As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
can every single person do to reduce global warming ?


1) Insulation: Do you know that you can save 50% of heating energy
(and money) by insulation ? Especially in
the times the financial crisis, you can make the insulation cheaper
and save the money when oil, natural gas and
coal prices are higher due to higher demand. What needs to be
insulated ? Firstly the Roof, since warmer air
goes up, then the windows (tripple glass or at least dual glass and
shutters for additional insulation at night,
and in summer time), then the outer walls. Also small cracks, leaks in
weatherstrips etc should be eliminated.
An infrared inspection of your house for heat losses would be the best
way to find out what else can be done.
A wintergarden will help heating your house additionally in winter
time.

2) Using rechargable batteries instead of alkaline batteries, and
charge them during less demand ours like at night
will also save a lot of energy and money.

3) Lightning; the use of Compact fluorescent lamps instead of
traditioanl light bulbs will save 80% of energy, the
use of very new LED lamps will save even more.

4) Buying local. Most of the energy is spent for transportation of
imported goods, especially food. By buying local
made food you not only save a lot of energy, but also create more jobs
at home.

5) Heating; there are several way to save energy and money by changing
the heating method; you can use the free heat
of the nature by adding a solar thermal equipment to heat the water
for taking showers and also to heat your home.
Additionally you can use a heating pump, which funtions like a reverse
fridge; it takes the heat of the outside and
transfers it to your home. You use much much less energy to do this
(electricity to pump a liquid).

6) Your car; by buying a hybrid car you save 30% of fuel, by
converting your car to CNG (compressed natural gas) you
can save a lot of CO2, since CNG has much less carbon but more
hydrogen, which will result in water (CH4 instead of
C8H18). CNG will also result in much more energy output per mass. The
conversion is not very expensive. It is totally
save, since the storage has to resist a certain pressure.
Of course there are also other smaller things you have to consider:
- Each 60 pounds increases fuel consumption by 10%.
- Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration, and hard braking)
wastes gas. It can lower your highway gas mileage
33% and city mileage 5%.
- Drive at lowest and constant rpms; 2000 rpm are enough; you can save
up to 30%. Even a Porsche can be driven at the
4th gear at 20 mph and at the 6th gear at 50 mph with 2.5 times less
fuel consumption.
- Avoid high speeds. Driving 75 mph, rather than 65 mph, could cut
your fuel economy by 15%.
- Use air conditioning only when necessary
- Keep tires properly inflated and aligned to improve your gasoline
mileage by around 3.3%.
- Replace clogged air filters to improve gas mileage by as much as 10%
and protect your engine
- Combine errands into one trip. Several short trips, each one taken
from a cold start, can use twice as much fuel as
one trip covering the same distance when the engine is warm. Do not
forget that in the first mile your car uses 8
times more fuel, in the second mile 4 times and only after the
fourth mile it becomes normal

7) Buying A++ or A+++ equipments. The extra money you pay for this
will be back in 1-2 years. It will save a lot of CO2.

8) Try to save also energy at your job; you can do it by insulation,
more efficient processes, heat recovery, more
efficient pumps/engines, low temperature processses, material
saving, water savings, optimization, automatic turning
off of unnecessary energy using processes, control if some
processes are really necessary (the change of some
processes makes other processes sometimes unnecesarry on which
nobody has thought about).

9) Solar cells for your own home; at the moment solar cells are very
cheap since there is an overproduction. These cells
can operate a fridge for example.

Regards.

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Dear All,
As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
planet. It will also affect us;
rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
due to droughts are some of the effects.
As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
can every single person do to reduce global warming ?
Oh dear more greenies lies and disinformation.
There is no evidence that global warming will do any of the above.

And as for
Quote:
As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels
that theory is becoming less creditable every day as scientists are finding serious flaws in the AGW theorists work.
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Granity wrote:
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Dear All,
As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
planet. It will also affect us;
rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
due to droughts are some of the effects.
As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
can every single person do to reduce global warming ?


Oh dear more greenies lies and disinformation.
There is no evidence that global warming will do any of the above.

And as for As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels

that theory is becoming less creditable every day as scientists are
finding serious flaws in the AGW theorists work.




As the temperature has risen on Mars in the last few years can you
please give me advice on how to combat that? As I am very worried

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On 16 Dec, 20:28, ".." wrote:
Dear All,
As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
planet. It will also affect us;
rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
due to droughts are some of the effects.
As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
can every single person do to reduce global warming ?

1) Insulation: Do you know that you can save 50% of heating energy
(and money) by insulation ? *Especially in
the times the financial crisis, you can make the insulation cheaper
and save the money when oil, natural gas and
coal prices are higher due to higher demand. What needs to be
insulated ? Firstly the Roof, since warmer air
goes up, then the windows (tripple glass or at least dual glass and
shutters for additional insulation at night,
and in summer time), then the outer walls. Also small cracks, leaks in
weatherstrips etc should be eliminated.
An infrared inspection of your house for heat losses would be the best
way to find out what else can be done.
A wintergarden will help heating your house additionally in winter
time.

2) Using rechargable batteries instead of alkaline batteries, and
charge them during less demand ours like at night
will also save a lot of energy and money.

3) Lightning; the use of Compact fluorescent lamps instead of
traditioanl light bulbs will save 80% of energy, the
use of very new LED lamps will save even more.

4) Buying local. Most of the energy is spent for transportation of
imported goods, especially food. By buying local
made food you not only save a lot of energy, but also create more jobs
at home.

5) Heating; there are several way to save energy and money by changing
the heating method; you can use the free heat
of the nature by adding a solar thermal equipment to heat the water
for taking showers and also to heat your home.
Additionally you can use a heating pump, which funtions like a reverse
fridge; it takes the heat of the outside and
transfers it to your home. You use much much less energy to do this
(electricity to pump a liquid).

6) Your car; by buying a hybrid car you save 30% of fuel, by
converting your car to CNG (compressed natural gas) you
can save a lot of CO2, since CNG has much less carbon but more
hydrogen, which will result in water (CH4 instead of
C8H18). CNG will also result in much more energy output per mass. The
conversion is not very expensive. It is totally
save, since the storage has to resist a certain pressure.
Of course there are also other smaller things you have to consider:
- Each 60 pounds increases fuel consumption by 10%.
- Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration, and hard braking)
wastes gas. It can lower your highway gas mileage
* 33% and city mileage 5%.
- Drive at lowest and constant rpms; 2000 rpm are enough; you can save
up to 30%. Even a Porsche can be driven at the
* 4th gear at 20 mph and at the 6th gear at 50 mph with 2.5 times less
fuel consumption.
- Avoid high speeds. Driving 75 mph, rather than 65 mph, could cut
your fuel economy by 15%.
- Use air conditioning only when necessary
- Keep tires properly inflated and aligned to improve your gasoline
mileage by around 3.3%.
- Replace clogged air filters to improve gas mileage by as much as 10%
and protect your engine
- Combine errands into one trip. Several short trips, each one taken
from a cold start, can use twice as much fuel as
* one trip covering the same distance when the engine is warm. Do not
forget that in the first mile your car uses 8
* times more fuel, in the second mile 4 times and only after the
fourth mile it becomes normal

7) Buying A++ or A+++ equipments. The extra money you pay for this
will be back in 1-2 years. It will save a lot of CO2.

8) Try to save also energy at your job; you can do it by insulation,
more efficient processes, heat recovery, more
* *efficient pumps/engines, low temperature processses, material
saving, water savings, optimization, automatic turning
* *off of unnecessary energy using processes, control if some
processes are really necessary (the change of some
* *processes makes other processes sometimes unnecesarry on which
nobody has thought about).

9) Solar cells for your own home; at the moment solar cells are very
cheap since there is an overproduction. These cells
* *can operate a fridge for example.

Regards.


Why did you miss out reduction of air travel .I find it absolutely
amazing how so many people MUST fly several times a year for holidays.
50 years ago very very few people flew anywhere for their holidays.
Michael
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Oh dear more greenies lies and disinformation.
There is no evidence that global warming will do any of the above.
Correct on this occasion. The list you were commenting on was likely a considerable overstatement of the case, except perhaps in the worst-case scenarios of a 6 degree rise. Rising sea-levels are the one we have to worry about even in 2 degree rise case.


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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:43:54 +0000, Broadback wrote:

Granity wrote:
.;872025 Wrote:
Dear All,
As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
planet. It will also affect us;
rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
due to droughts are some of the effects.
As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
can every single person do to reduce global warming ?


Pray for a large comet to strike the earth and cause another ice age?



Oh dear more greenies lies and disinformation.
There is no evidence that global warming will do any of the above.

And as for As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2
emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels
that theory is becoming less creditable every day as scientists are
finding serious flaws in the AGW theorists work.




As the temperature has risen on Mars in the last few years can you
please give me advice on how to combat that? As I am very worried


I blame the hot air that accompanied Beagle 2.
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On 16 Dec, 20:28, ".." wrote:
Dear All,
As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
planet. It will also affect us;
rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
due to droughts are some of the effects.
As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
can every single person do to reduce global warming ?

1) Insulation: Do you know that you can save 50% of heating energy
(and money) by insulation ? Especially in
the times the financial crisis, you can make the insulation cheaper
and save the money when oil, natural gas and
coal prices are higher due to higher demand. What needs to be
insulated ? Firstly the Roof, since warmer air
goes up, then the windows (tripple glass or at least dual glass and
shutters for additional insulation at night,
and in summer time), then the outer walls. Also small cracks, leaks in
weatherstrips etc should be eliminated.
An infrared inspection of your house for heat losses would be the best
way to find out what else can be done.
A wintergarden will help heating your house additionally in winter
time.

2) Using rechargable batteries instead of alkaline batteries, and
charge them during less demand ours like at night
will also save a lot of energy and money.

3) Lightning; the use of Compact fluorescent lamps instead of
traditioanl light bulbs will save 80% of energy, the
use of very new LED lamps will save even more.

4) Buying local. Most of the energy is spent for transportation of
imported goods, especially food. By buying local
made food you not only save a lot of energy, but also create more jobs
at home.

5) Heating; there are several way to save energy and money by changing
the heating method; you can use the free heat
of the nature by adding a solar thermal equipment to heat the water
for taking showers and also to heat your home.
Additionally you can use a heating pump, which funtions like a reverse
fridge; it takes the heat of the outside and
transfers it to your home. You use much much less energy to do this
(electricity to pump a liquid).

6) Your car; by buying a hybrid car you save 30% of fuel, by
converting your car to CNG (compressed natural gas) you
can save a lot of CO2, since CNG has much less carbon but more
hydrogen, which will result in water (CH4 instead of
C8H18). CNG will also result in much more energy output per mass. The
conversion is not very expensive. It is totally
save, since the storage has to resist a certain pressure.
Of course there are also other smaller things you have to consider:
- Each 60 pounds increases fuel consumption by 10%.
- Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration, and hard braking)
wastes gas. It can lower your highway gas mileage
33% and city mileage 5%.
- Drive at lowest and constant rpms; 2000 rpm are enough; you can save
up to 30%. Even a Porsche can be driven at the
4th gear at 20 mph and at the 6th gear at 50 mph with 2.5 times less
fuel consumption.
- Avoid high speeds. Driving 75 mph, rather than 65 mph, could cut
your fuel economy by 15%.
- Use air conditioning only when necessary
- Keep tires properly inflated and aligned to improve your gasoline
mileage by around 3.3%.
- Replace clogged air filters to improve gas mileage by as much as 10%
and protect your engine
- Combine errands into one trip. Several short trips, each one taken
from a cold start, can use twice as much fuel as
one trip covering the same distance when the engine is warm. Do not
forget that in the first mile your car uses 8
times more fuel, in the second mile 4 times and only after the
fourth mile it becomes normal

7) Buying A++ or A+++ equipments. The extra money you pay for this
will be back in 1-2 years. It will save a lot of CO2.

8) Try to save also energy at your job; you can do it by insulation,
more efficient processes, heat recovery, more
efficient pumps/engines, low temperature processses, material
saving, water savings, optimization, automatic turning
off of unnecessary energy using processes, control if some
processes are really necessary (the change of some
processes makes other processes sometimes unnecesarry on which
nobody has thought about).

9) Solar cells for your own home; at the moment solar cells are very
cheap since there is an overproduction. These cells
can operate a fridge for example.

Regards.


Why did you miss out reduction of air travel .I find it absolutely
amazing how so many people MUST fly several times a year for holidays.
50 years ago very very few people flew anywhere for their holidays.
Michael

especially the greenies, like to fly everywhere, as in Copenhagan they
should get a life instead of finding
new ways of tax's
GB's now on about a new carbon trading industry etc, guess who's just set up
a bussiness, yes his old mate B'Liar
If we are going to get mediteranian weather soon, as they forcast, bring it
on, it's b****y freezin here
lofty


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As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
planet. It will also affect us;
rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
due to droughts are some of the effects.
As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
can every single person do to reduce global warming ?




Why did you miss out reduction of air travel .I find it absolutely
amazing how so many people MUST fly several times a year for holidays.
50 years ago very very few people flew anywhere for their holidays.
Michael

especially the greenies, like to fly everywhere, as in Copenhagan they
should get a life instead of finding
new ways of tax's
GB's now on about a new carbon trading industry etc, guess who's just set up
a bussiness, yes his old mate B'Liar
If we are going to get mediteranian weather soon, as they forcast, bring it
on, it's b****y freezin here
lofty
Yep we've got 3" of white global warming here this morning.

I see the greenies attacked Lord Monckton at the conference yesterday, their only answer to people who disagree with them is to use violence against them, and ban them from the conference.
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Yep we've got 3" of white global warming here this morning.

I see the greenies attacked Lord Monckton at the conference yesterday, their only answer to people who disagree with them is to use violence against them, and ban them from the conference.
I suspect you get some white stuff from time to time, and a couple of degrees warming (averaged across the planet) won't be sufficient to stop it. After all, if snow can fall in mediterranean areas, why shouldn't it fall in Britain even after a bit of warming?

Anyone of scientific integrity would attack Lord Monckton because he wrote a pseudoscientific paper full of misdirection and statistical tricks that bear no scrutiny whatsoever. You can search down point by point debunkings of what he wrote. If I say 2+2=5, and the person who points out my error is the president of Greenpeace, that doesn't make me any less wrong. But if you don't trust the greenies, I suspect you will find it was the scientific community who pulled him apart, because they were the ones with the expertise to do so. Of course, if you define a greenie as anyone who disagrees with Lord Monckton, then you may as well rely on the Daily Mail for facts.
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Anyone of scientific integrity would attack Lord Monckton because he wrote a pseudoscientific paper full of misdirection and statistical tricks that bear no scrutiny whatsoever.
Ahhhh so you approve of violence against opponents of AGW do you?

As for that paper, it bears just as much scrutiny as the incestuously 'peer reviewed' data manipulated papers of Mann and Jones et al. :-)


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Granity;872114 Wrote:
Yep we've got 3" of white global warming here this morning.

I see the greenies attacked Lord Monckton at the conference yesterday,
their only answer to people who disagree with them is to use violence
against them, and ban them from the conference.

I suspect you get some white stuff from time to time, and a couple of
degrees warming (averaged across the planet) won't be sufficient to stop
it. After all, if snow can fall in mediterranean areas, why shouldn't it
fall in Britain even after a bit of warming?

Anyone of scientific integrity would attack Lord Monckton because he
wrote a pseudoscientific paper full of misdirection and statistical
tricks that bear no scrutiny whatsoever. You can search down point by
point debunkings of what he wrote. If I say 2+2=5, and the person who
points out my error is the president of Greenpeace, that doesn't make me
any less wrong. But if you don't trust the greenies, I suspect you will
find it was the scientific community who pulled him apart, because they
were the ones with the expertise to do so. Of course, if you define a
greenie as anyone who disagrees with Lord Monckton, then you may as well
rely on the Daily Mail for facts.

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I find it quite amazing that grown ups cannot accept that the World is a
damn site stronger and bigger than the dot on the surface called 'The Human
Race' and that the World has and will do what it has done for years and
years and years and will continue to do so long after "Man" has left its
surface. DO you seriously believe that the 'Human Race' will be here for
ever?

Global Warming --- Climate Change has NOTHING to do with man and is just
another way of trying to extract another tax or make another market from the
gullible 'Human Race'.

There is money in Global Warming -- Climate Change just as there was for the
unscrupulous in the Hula Hoop, Rubik Cube, Womble, Christmas Card etc etc
etc What does the World tick on? MONEY. Do you have a business? Do you make
a loss for the benefit of your customers?

For crying out loud "grown ups", can't you see it?

:-(((

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