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Tim 02-02-2010 09:50 PM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 
Hi

Does anyone know of any good online resources listing old UK vegetable
varieties?

And tied into that, good seed stockists of old varieties.

TIA for any help

Tim
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Bob Hobden 02-02-2010 10:49 PM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 


"Tim" wrote
Does anyone know of any good online resources listing old UK vegetable
varieties?

And tied into that, good seed stockists of old varieties.

TIA for any help


Thomas Etty Esq is both a source of information and seeds but his new site
is not complete yet. There is a list of reference works for you though...

http://www.thomasetty.co.uk/index.html

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK


Bob Hobden 03-02-2010 08:16 AM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 


"Bob Hobden" wrote...


"Tim" wrote
Does anyone know of any good online resources listing old UK vegetable
varieties?

And tied into that, good seed stockists of old varieties.

TIA for any help


Thomas Etty Esq is both a source of information and seeds but his new site
is not complete yet. There is a list of reference works for you though...

http://www.thomasetty.co.uk/index.html

Just noticed you are able to click on the references and get a list for the
introduction of veg as at a date etc.
So if you wanted varieties available, say, in 1787 click on the Mawe &
Abercrombie reference or in 1879 then click on the Suttons catalogue for
that date.
Seems it's just his seed catalogue that is not working but I'm sure he could
provide seed when you decide what you want. It's a one man band so give him
time. :-)
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Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK


Gopher 03-02-2010 09:31 AM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 
In message , Tim
writes
Hi

Does anyone know of any good online resources listing old UK vegetable
varieties?

And tied into that, good seed stockists of old varieties.

TIA for any help

Tim


By pure coincidence I attended our local garden club meeting in N.
Dorset on Monday. The speaker was Christopher Smith, the co-owner of
Pennard Plants across the border in Somerset. He spoke superbly on
Victorian gardens and gardeners, focussing on "old" varieties of
vegetables - and, of course, had a big selection of packeted seeds on
sale at £1.00 per packet I would say he had c. 50 types of tomato, none
of which were known to me plus loads of other veg seeds. I doubt if
there were zillions of seeds per packet (I haven't yet opened the couple
that I bought). He also had a great range of old sweet peas - including
the strongly scented ones. He also mentioned that they have 200 types of
seed potato.

The website is:

http://www.pennardplants.com

They have all sorts of things and also specialise in Agapanthus and
other S. African natives.

It is _so_ spooky that you posted your query. I had been thinking that
many on this ng would be interested in what they offer and was trying to
think of a diplomatic way of mentioning this company without being
accused of being a spammer.

HTH.
--
Gopher .... I know my place!

Bob Hobden 03-02-2010 09:45 AM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 


"Gopher" wrote ...
Tim writes

Does anyone know of any good online resources listing old UK vegetable
varieties?

And tied into that, good seed stockists of old varieties.


By pure coincidence I attended our local garden club meeting in N. Dorset
on Monday. The speaker was Christopher Smith, the co-owner of Pennard
Plants across the border in Somerset. He spoke superbly on Victorian
gardens and gardeners, focussing on "old" varieties of vegetables - and,
of course, had a big selection of packeted seeds on sale at £1.00 per
packet I would say he had c. 50 types of tomato, none of which were known
to me plus loads of other veg seeds. I doubt if there were zillions of
seeds per packet (I haven't yet opened the couple that I bought). He also
had a great range of old sweet peas - including the strongly scented ones.
He also mentioned that they have 200 types of seed potato.

The website is:

http://www.pennardplants.com

They have all sorts of things and also specialise in Agapanthus and other
S. African natives.

It is _so_ spooky that you posted your query. I had been thinking that
many on this ng would be interested in what they offer and was trying to
think of a diplomatic way of mentioning this company without being accused
of being a spammer.

Can't see how you would be considered a spammer mentioning a link to a
useful site/company for gardeners and should you be worried anyway. Often do
it myself in answer to questions, in fact see my answer above.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK


Tim 03-02-2010 11:31 AM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 
Bob, Gopher, Sacha, thank you for the links that's just the sort of thing I
was looking for.

The links Google was throwing up were rubbish!

Tim




®óñ© © ²°¹° 03-02-2010 11:34 AM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:03:13 +0000, Sacha wrote:

http://www.pennardplants.com

They have all sorts of things and also specialise in Agapanthus and
other S. African natives.

It is _so_ spooky that you posted your query. I had been thinking that
many on this ng would be interested in what they offer and was trying
to think of a diplomatic way of mentioning this company without being
accused of being a spammer.

HTH.


It sounds an extremely interesting place and I'm sure you couldn't be
thought a spammer for recommending something about gardening to
gardeners! ;-)


Well if it is spam (which I don't think it is) it certainly works.
I've just bought some tomato seeds from them

--
(¯`·. ®óñ© © ²°¹° .·´¯)

Gopher 03-02-2010 12:19 PM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 
In message , ®óñ© © ²°¹°
writes
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:03:13 +0000, Sacha wrote:

http://www.pennardplants.com

They have all sorts of things and also specialise in Agapanthus and
other S. African natives.

It is _so_ spooky that you posted your query. I had been thinking that
many on this ng would be interested in what they offer and was trying
to think of a diplomatic way of mentioning this company without being
accused of being a spammer.

HTH.


It sounds an extremely interesting place and I'm sure you couldn't be
thought a spammer for recommending something about gardening to
gardeners! ;-)


Well if it is spam (which I don't think it is) it certainly works.
I've just bought some tomato seeds from them

At the end of our club evening I bought two tomato seed types -

1. Yellow Pear Beams - small and very sweet which I know the grandkids
will pillage (which is why I bought them).

2. Ruth's Perfect - originally from the USA and said to be "almost
completely problem free and perfect in most ways". For £1 I felt I can't
really go wrong.

I also bought one of the sweet peas - Grandiflora "Painted Lady" - said
to date from c. 1737.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing what comes up. My wife was also greatly
taken with the Agapanthi(?) and I have a feeling further investment may
be imminent.

Hope your tomatoes grow well.
--
Gopher .... I know my place!

®óñ© © ²°¹° 03-02-2010 12:28 PM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:19:28 +0000, Gopher wrote:


Hope your tomatoes grow well.


Thanks.

I bought

German Orange strawberry tomato
Red Zebra tomato
and
Pineapple tomato.
I shall look forward to the crops

--
(¯`·. ®óñ© © ²°¹° .·´¯)




Gopher 03-02-2010 02:13 PM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 
In message , Sacha
writes
On 2010-02-03 12:19:28 +0000, Gopher said:

snip
Anyway, I look forward to seeing what comes up. My wife was also
greatly taken with the Agapanthi(?) and I have a feeling further
investment may be imminent.


Not, too, too far away for you: http://www.pcplants.co.uk/index.cfm
snip


Thank you Sacha. Much appreciated and, as you say, not overly far from
us. Maybe we can take a day's circular tour, provided we can get an
appointment to visit Christopher's place in Pennard. (Note to self -
must sequester Senior Management's credit cards. Such days out can have
dire consequences)
--
Gopher .... I know my place!

Rusty Hinge[_2_] 08-02-2010 10:16 PM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 
Gopher wrote:
In message , Tim
writes
Hi

Does anyone know of any good online resources listing old UK vegetable
varieties?

And tied into that, good seed stockists of old varieties.

TIA for any help

Tim


By pure coincidence I attended our local garden club meeting in N.
Dorset on Monday. The speaker was Christopher Smith, the co-owner of
Pennard Plants across the border in Somerset. He spoke superbly on
Victorian gardens and gardeners, focussing on "old" varieties of
vegetables - and, of course, had a big selection of packeted seeds on
sale at £1.00 per packet I would say he had c. 50 types of tomato, none
of which were known to me plus loads of other veg seeds. I doubt if
there were zillions of seeds per packet (I haven't yet opened the couple
that I bought). He also had a great range of old sweet peas - including
the strongly scented ones. He also mentioned that they have 200 types of
seed potato.

The website is:

http://www.pennardplants.com

They have all sorts of things and also specialise in Agapanthus and
other S. African natives.

It is _so_ spooky that you posted your query. I had been thinking that
many on this ng would be interested in what they offer and was trying to
think of a diplomatic way of mentioning this company without being
accused of being a spammer.

HTH.


Well, let's hope the EC police don't swoop - a lot of these old
varieties may not now be sold.

One may (possibly...) exchange them, and there's no restriction on
giving them away.

Madness, but unfortunately, the big seed companies have the E in their
pockets.

--
Rusty

Rusty Hinge[_2_] 08-02-2010 10:19 PM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 
®óñ© © ²°¹° wrote:

It sounds an extremely interesting place and I'm sure you couldn't be
thought a spammer for recommending something about gardening to
gardeners! ;-)


Well if it is spam (which I don't think it is) it certainly works.
I've just bought some tomato seeds from them


Well, our lads in Afghanistan had to make do with spam for quite a while
recently. I never heard any complaints...

--
Rusty

Spider[_2_] 12-02-2010 04:55 PM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
...
Gopher wrote:
In message , Tim
writes
Hi
Does anyone know of any good online resources listing old UK vegetable
varieties?

And tied into that, good seed stockists of old varieties.

TIA for any help

Tim


By pure coincidence I attended our local garden club meeting in N. Dorset
on Monday. The speaker was Christopher Smith, the co-owner of Pennard
Plants across the border in Somerset. He spoke superbly on Victorian
gardens and gardeners, focussing on "old" varieties of vegetables - and,
of course, had a big selection of packeted seeds on sale at £1.00 per
packet I would say he had c. 50 types of tomato, none of which were known
to me plus loads of other veg seeds. I doubt if there were zillions of
seeds per packet (I haven't yet opened the couple that I bought). He also
had a great range of old sweet peas - including the strongly scented
ones. He also mentioned that they have 200 types of seed potato.
The website is:
http://www.pennardplants.com
They have all sorts of things and also specialise in Agapanthus and other
S. African natives.

It is _so_ spooky that you posted your query. I had been thinking that
many on this ng would be interested in what they offer and was trying to
think of a diplomatic way of mentioning this company without being
accused of being a spammer.

HTH.


Well, let's hope the EC police don't swoop - a lot of these old varieties
may not now be sold.

One may (possibly...) exchange them, and there's no restriction on giving
them away.

Madness, but unfortunately, the big seed companies have the E in their
pockets.

--
Rusty



Google on 'Heritage Seeds' and you'll get so many links you won't know what
to do with them all.

Spider



Tim 13-02-2010 11:37 AM

Victorian or earlier vegetable varieties
 

Google on 'Heritage Seeds' and you'll get so many links you won't know
what
to do with them all.

Spider


Good call Spider, I couldn't think of decent keyword combinations.

Thanks for the help.




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