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soup[_5_] 29-04-2010 02:04 PM

Plant who's seed looks like a sweetpea's one.
 
Spot (and identify if poss) the cuckoo in the nest. Son had planted a
tray of sweetpea seeds; most of them have come up, but one plant looks
totally different to the others. Probably its seed looks pretty much
like a sweetpea's seed (son has lots of difficulties so he would not
notice if it was subtly different , but I am fairly sure he would notice
if the seed had been glaringly different).

http://www.sidtech.co.uk/iu/soup936104423291.JPG

Dave Hill 29-04-2010 03:58 PM

Plant who's seed looks like a sweetpea's one.
 
On 29 Apr, 14:04, soup wrote:
Spot (and identify if poss) the cuckoo in the nest. *Son had planted a
tray of sweetpea seeds; most of them have come up, but one plant looks
totally different to the others. *Probably its seed looks pretty much
like a sweetpea's seed (son has lots of difficulties so he would not
notice if it was subtly different , but I am fairly sure he would notice
if the seed had been glaringly different).

http://www.sidtech.co.uk/iu/soup936104423291.JPG


Same family, could be a species or vetch
David Hill

echinosum 29-04-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soup[_5_] (Post 885598)
Spot (and identify if poss) the cuckoo in the nest. Son had planted a
tray of sweetpea seeds; most of them have come up, but one plant looks
totally different to the others. Probably its seed looks pretty much
like a sweetpea's seed (son has lots of difficulties so he would not
notice if it was subtly different , but I am fairly sure he would notice
if the seed had been glaringly different).

http://www.sidtech.co.uk/iu/soup936104423291.JPG

Does indeed look like a very typical seedling of a climber in the pea family, such as a wild vetch or something. I think you'll have to grow it on to know just what it is, on the off-chance it might be something exciting.

Stewart Robert Hinsley 29-04-2010 06:10 PM

Plant who's seed looks like a sweetpea's one.
 
In message , soup
writes
Spot (and identify if poss) the cuckoo in the nest. Son had planted a
tray of sweetpea seeds; most of them have come up, but one plant looks
totally different to the others. Probably its seed looks pretty much
like a sweetpea's seed (son has lots of difficulties so he would not
notice if it was subtly different , but I am fairly sure he would
notice if the seed had been glaringly different).

http://www.sidtech.co.uk/iu/soup936104423291.JPG


I wouldn't be certain of the assumption that the odd one out came from a
sown seed and not from contamination of the compost.

I agree with Dave Hill that it might be a vetch, and that doesn't have a
seed that could be mistaken for a sweet pea's - it's several times
smaller.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

soup[_5_] 29-04-2010 08:25 PM

Plant who's seed looks like a sweetpea's one.
 
On 29/04/2010 15:58, Dave Hill wrote:

http://www.sidtech.co.uk/iu/soup936104423291.JPG


Same family, could be a species or vetch



The leaves are much narrower than a picture I found on the 'Net of a
common Vetch.


soup[_5_] 29-04-2010 08:30 PM

Plant who's seed looks like a sweetpea's one.
 
On 29/04/2010 18:10, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

http://www.sidtech.co.uk/iu/soup936104423291.JPG


I wouldn't be certain of the assumption that the odd one out came from a
sown seed and not from contamination of the compost.


Mmm hadn't thought of that. Looking closely at that compost it appears
very "sticky" and has large pieces. Is there specialist seeding compost
he should be using (that is perhaps "finer")?

Stewart Robert Hinsley 29-04-2010 08:51 PM

Plant who's seed looks like a sweetpea's one.
 
In message , soup
writes
On 29/04/2010 18:10, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

http://www.sidtech.co.uk/iu/soup936104423291.JPG


I wouldn't be certain of the assumption that the odd one out came from a
sown seed and not from contamination of the compost.


Mmm hadn't thought of that. Looking closely at that compost it appears
very "sticky" and has large pieces. Is there specialist seeding
compost he should be using (that is perhaps "finer")?


For a large-seeded plant like a sweet pea it probably doesn't matter.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Stewart Robert Hinsley 29-04-2010 08:55 PM

Plant who's seed looks like a sweetpea's one.
 
In message , soup
writes
On 29/04/2010 15:58, Dave Hill wrote:

http://www.sidtech.co.uk/iu/soup936104423291.JPG


Same family, could be a species or vetch



The leaves are much narrower than a picture I found on the 'Net of a
common Vetch.

Seedlings don't always look like mature plants, which is why I wouldn't
attempt an identification to species, and in this case the number of
leaflets is lower than one expects in a major plant, but the tares (3
species, but hairy tare, Vicia hirsuta, is much the commonest) have
narrower leaflets than common vetch. (I can recognise 5 species of vetch
in flower and fruit, but not from the foliage.)
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

soup[_5_] 29-04-2010 10:26 PM

Plant who's seed looks like a sweetpea's one.
 
On 29/04/2010 16:52, echinosum wrote:
I think you'll have to grow it on to know just what it is,
on the off-chance it might be something exciting.


I think that is the plan; keep it seperate, but planted on and see what
it grows into.

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 30-04-2010 11:31 AM

Plant who's seed looks like a sweetpea's one.
 
In article ,
says...
In message , soup
writes
On 29/04/2010 15:58, Dave Hill wrote:

http://www.sidtech.co.uk/iu/soup936104423291.JPG


Same family, could be a species or vetch



The leaves are much narrower than a picture I found on the 'Net of a
common Vetch.

Seedlings don't always look like mature plants, which is why I wouldn't
attempt an identification to species, and in this case the number of
leaflets is lower than one expects in a major plant, but the tares (3
species, but hairy tare, Vicia hirsuta, is much the commonest) have
narrower leaflets than common vetch. (I can recognise 5 species of vetch
in flower and fruit, but not from the foliage.)

I seem to recall Lathyrus heterophylus (spell?) looks similar at seedling
stage
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea


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