Green Manure
 

Anybody out there tried this? Is it a waste of time? I bought some
seed but it seems expensive, there's gotta be a cheaper alternative.
I wondered about some cheap lawn grass seed.
I suppose you want a fast growing annual thay gets dug in before it
has chance to drop any seed.

Green Manure
 

On 28/08/10 11:41, harry wrote:
Anybody out there tried this? Is it a waste of time? I bought some
seed but it seems expensive, there's gotta be a cheaper alternative.
I wondered about some cheap lawn grass seed.
I suppose you want a fast growing annual thay gets dug in before it
has chance to drop any seed.

What type did you buy?

Green Manure
 

On 28 Aug, 14:44, Ed ex@directory wrote:
On 28/08/10 11:41, harry wrote:

Anybody out there tried this? *Is it a waste of time? *I bought some
seed but it seems expensive, there's gotta be a cheaper alternative.
I wondered about some cheap lawn grass seed.
I suppose you want a fast growing annual thay gets dug in before it
has chance to drop any seed.

What type did you buy?

The only stuff I could find locally wasT&M, hence expensive. Mostly
Italian ryegrass plus a few other odds and ends.

Green Manure
 

harry wrote:
On 28 Aug, 14:44, Ed ex@directory wrote:
On 28/08/10 11:41, harry wrote:

Anybody out there tried this? Is it a waste of time? I bought some
seed but it seems expensive, there's gotta be a cheaper alternative.
I wondered about some cheap lawn grass seed.
I suppose you want a fast growing annual thay gets dug in before it
has chance to drop any seed.

What type did you buy?

The only stuff I could find locally wasT&M, hence expensive. Mostly
Italian ryegrass plus a few other odds and ends.

Sounds like a way of selling grass seed at a premium. I'd be inclined to
just plant some ordinary grass seed then dig it in.


Ian

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On 28 Aug, 17:01, "Ian B" wrote:
harry wrote:
On 28 Aug, 14:44, Ed ex@directory wrote:
On 28/08/10 11:41, harry wrote:

Anybody out there tried this? Is it a waste of time? I bought some
seed but it seems expensive, there's gotta be a cheaper alternative.
I wondered about some cheap lawn grass seed.
I suppose you want a fast growing annual thay gets dug in before it
has chance to drop any seed.

What type did you buy?

The only stuff I could find locally wasT&M, hence expensive. *Mostly
Italian ryegrass plus a few other odds and ends.

Sounds like a way of selling grass seed at a premium. I'd be inclined to
just plant some ordinary grass seed then dig it in.

Ian

I wondered about that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_crop

Green Manure
 

"harry" wrote in message
...
Anybody out there tried this? Is it a waste of time? I bought some
seed but it seems expensive, there's gotta be a cheaper alternative.
I wondered about some cheap lawn grass seed.
I suppose you want a fast growing annual thay gets dug in before it
has chance to drop any seed.

You don't want grass seed as such, you want something that fixes nitrogen,
like Phacelia, red clover, or mustard.

http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/factsheets/gs3.php

Phacelia is especially pretty, we saw a field of it in France some years
ago, didn't know what it was at the time.

someone

Green Manure
 

On 28 Aug, 22:20, "someone" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message

...

Anybody out there tried this? *Is it a waste of time? *I bought some
seed but it seems expensive, there's gotta be a cheaper alternative.
I wondered about some cheap lawn grass seed.
I suppose you want a fast growing annual thay gets dug in before it
has chance to drop any seed.

You don't want grass seed as such, you want something that fixes nitrogen,
like Phacelia, red clover, or mustard.

http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/factsheets/gs3.php

Phacelia is especially pretty, we saw a field of it in France some years
ago, didn't know what it was at the time.

someone

Grass stores nitrogen though it doesn't fix it I agree. Clover might
be difficult to get rid of and would it growmuch if planted at this
time of year I wonder.

Green Manure
 

"someone" wrote in message
...

"harry" wrote in message
...
Anybody out there tried this? Is it a waste of time? I bought some
seed but it seems expensive, there's gotta be a cheaper alternative.
I wondered about some cheap lawn grass seed.
I suppose you want a fast growing annual thay gets dug in before it
has chance to drop any seed.

You don't want grass seed as such, you want something that fixes nitrogen,
like Phacelia, red clover, or mustard.

http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/factsheets/gs3.php

Phacelia is especially pretty, we saw a field of it in France some years
ago, didn't know what it was at the time.


Thanks for the useful link.
One problem with using green manure extensively over the winter period is
that you have to clear this season's crops first which may be a bit late for
everything but Hungarian grazing rye.
Given that rye grass can be a pernicious weed because of the creeping root
system I do wonder how easy it will be to keep it within a plot and
completely readicate it afterwards.

Cheers

Dave R
--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

Green Manure
 

On 29 Aug, 10:40, "David WE Roberts"
wrote:
"someone" wrote in message

...







"harry" wrote in message
...
Anybody out there tried this? *Is it a waste of time? *I bought some
seed but it seems expensive, there's gotta be a cheaper alternative.
I wondered about some cheap lawn grass seed.
I suppose you want a fast growing annual thay gets dug in before it
has chance to drop any seed.

You don't want grass seed as such, you want something that fixes nitrogen,
like Phacelia, red clover, or mustard.

http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/factsheets/gs3.php

Phacelia is especially pretty, we saw a field of it in France some years
ago, didn't know what it was at the time.

Thanks for the useful link.
One problem with using green manure extensively over the winter period is
that you have to clear this season's crops first which may be a bit late for
everything but Hungarian grazing rye.
Given that rye grass can be a pernicious weed because of the creeping root
system I do wonder how easy it will be to keep it within a plot and
completely readicate it afterwards.

Cheers

Dave R
--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")- Hide quoted text -

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Seems that this particular stuff is not perennial.
http://www.thegrassseedstore.co.uk/1...-ley-p-30.html

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In message
,
harry writes
On 29 Aug, 10:40, "David WE Roberts"
wrote:
"someone" wrote in message

...







"harry" wrote in message
...
Anybody out there tried this? *Is it a waste of time? *I bought some
seed but it seems expensive, there's gotta be a cheaper alternative.
I wondered about some cheap lawn grass seed.
I suppose you want a fast growing annual thay gets dug in before it
has chance to drop any seed.

You don't want grass seed as such, you want something that fixes nitrogen,
like Phacelia, red clover, or mustard.

http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/factsheets/gs3.php

Phacelia is especially pretty, we saw a field of it in France some years
ago, didn't know what it was at the time.

Thanks for the useful link.
One problem with using green manure extensively over the winter period is
that you have to clear this season's crops first which may be a bit late for
everything but Hungarian grazing rye.
Given that rye grass can be a pernicious weed because of the creeping root
system I do wonder how easy it will be to keep it within a plot and
completely readicate it afterwards.

Cheers

Dave R
--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Seems that this particular stuff is not perennial.
http://www.thegrassseedstore.co.uk/1...ar-silage-ley-
p-30.html

Grazing rye is a form of Secale cereale bred for grazing rather than for
grain production. It is an annual.

Rye grass is Lolium perenne or Lolium mulltiflorum or their hybrids. The
common one (even apart form it's extensive use in rye-clover pastures)
is Lolium perenne, which is perennial. Lolium multiflorum is
annual(ish), and is known as Italian rye grass or annual rye grass.

Rye and rye grass are not particular closely related - while they''re in
the same subfamily (Pooideae) they are in different tribes; rye belongs
to Triticeae (with wheat and barley), while rye grass belongs to Poeae
(with fescues and meadow grasses).
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Green Manure
 

On 29 Aug, 15:34, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:
In message
,
harry writes





On 29 Aug, 10:40, "David WE Roberts"
wrote:
"someone" wrote in message

. ..

"harry" wrote in message
....
Anybody out there tried this? *Is it a waste of time? *I bought some
seed but it seems expensive, there's gotta be a cheaper alternative..
I wondered about some cheap lawn grass seed.
I suppose you want a fast growing annual thay gets dug in before it
has chance to drop any seed.

You don't want grass seed as such, you want something that fixes nitrogen,
like Phacelia, red clover, or mustard.

http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/factsheets/gs3.php

Phacelia is especially pretty, we saw a field of it in France some years
ago, didn't know what it was at the time.

Thanks for the useful link.
One problem with using green manure extensively over the winter period is
that you have to clear this season's crops first which may be a bit late for
everything but Hungarian grazing rye.
Given that rye grass can be a pernicious weed because of the creeping root
system I do wonder how easy it will be to keep it within a plot and
completely readicate it afterwards.

Cheers

Dave R
--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Seems that this particular stuff is not perennial.
http://www.thegrassseedstore.co.uk/1...ar-silage-ley-
p-30.html

Grazing rye is a form of Secale cereale bred for grazing rather than for
grain production. It is an annual.

Rye grass is Lolium perenne or Lolium mulltiflorum or their hybrids. The
common one (even apart form it's extensive use in rye-clover pastures)
is Lolium perenne, which is perennial. Lolium multiflorum is
annual(ish), and is known as Italian rye grass or annual rye grass.

Rye and rye grass are not particular closely related - while they''re in
the same subfamily (Pooideae) they are in different tribes; rye belongs
to Triticeae (with wheat and barley), while rye grass belongs to Poeae
(with fescues and meadow grasses).
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sheesh!! :-)

try buying the GREEN MANURE from here

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On 30 Aug, 20:45, Jimgentracer Jimgentracer.
wrote:
try buying the 'GREEN MANURE from here' (http://tinyurl.com/297gtym)

--
Jimgentracer

Looks to be the stuff but I don't buy anything off the internet :-)