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stuart noble 08-09-2010 06:58 PM

anvil secateurs?
 
Can't seem to find anything decent in the way of anvil type secateurs.
My no name pair have given up after 25 years, and everything I look at
now is under a tenner, and likely to perform accordingly IME. Felco seem
to have discontinued the only anvil type (model 30), so I'm a bit
stumped. Anyone got any suggestions?

Christina Websell[_2_] 08-09-2010 10:47 PM

anvil secateurs?
 

"stuart noble" wrote in message
...
Can't seem to find anything decent in the way of anvil type secateurs. My
no name pair have given up after 25 years, and everything I look at now is
under a tenner, and likely to perform accordingly IME. Felco seem to have
discontinued the only anvil type (model 30), so I'm a bit stumped. Anyone
got any suggestions?


you could try a look he
http://www.garden4less.co.uk/proddet...od=RSS-RSM-RSL

As I lose mine often in my large garden I tend to go cheap Wilko style,
which, if I do manage to keep them seem to be good for years.
I tend to get distracted by seeing other things that need doing more
urgently while pruning and put them down somewhere.

My neighbour was worse than me at putting his tools down and losing them.
He once called to me "if you see my rake, let me know.."
I did eventually, he'd propped it up against a tree in his orchard.






Chris J Dixon 09-09-2010 07:13 AM

anvil secateurs?
 
stuart noble wrote:

Can't seem to find anything decent in the way of anvil type secateurs.
My no name pair have given up after 25 years, and everything I look at
now is under a tenner, and likely to perform accordingly IME. Felco seem
to have discontinued the only anvil type (model 30), so I'm a bit
stumped. Anyone got any suggestions?


Out of curiosity, why do you favour the anvil type?

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 09-09-2010 09:01 AM

anvil secateurs?
 
In article ,
says...
stuart noble wrote:

Can't seem to find anything decent in the way of anvil type secateurs.
My no name pair have given up after 25 years, and everything I look at
now is under a tenner, and likely to perform accordingly IME. Felco seem
to have discontinued the only anvil type (model 30), so I'm a bit
stumped. Anyone got any suggestions?


Out of curiosity, why do you favour the anvil type?

Chris

I was going to ask that!!!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

stuart noble 09-09-2010 11:33 AM

anvil secateurs?
 
On 09/09/2010 09:01, Charlie Pridham wrote:
In ,
says...
stuart noble wrote:

Can't seem to find anything decent in the way of anvil type secateurs.
My no name pair have given up after 25 years, and everything I look at
now is under a tenner, and likely to perform accordingly IME. Felco seem
to have discontinued the only anvil type (model 30), so I'm a bit
stumped. Anyone got any suggestions?


Out of curiosity, why do you favour the anvil type?

Chris

I was going to ask that!!!


I suppose because most of my pruning is of woody shrubs. My experience
of the bypass types (albeit the cheaper ones) is that, under any sort of
pressure, the cutting edge deflects slightly and traps the material
rather than slicing through it.
I suppose the fact that Felco don't seem to do an anvil type suggests
maybe I ought to re-think.

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 09-09-2010 01:15 PM

anvil secateurs?
 
In article ,
says...
On 09/09/2010 09:01, Charlie Pridham wrote:
In ,
says...
stuart noble wrote:

Can't seem to find anything decent in the way of anvil type secateurs.
My no name pair have given up after 25 years, and everything I look at
now is under a tenner, and likely to perform accordingly IME. Felco seem
to have discontinued the only anvil type (model 30), so I'm a bit
stumped. Anyone got any suggestions?

Out of curiosity, why do you favour the anvil type?

Chris

I was going to ask that!!!


I suppose because most of my pruning is of woody shrubs. My experience
of the bypass types (albeit the cheaper ones) is that, under any sort of
pressure, the cutting edge deflects slightly and traps the material
rather than slicing through it.
I suppose the fact that Felco don't seem to do an anvil type suggests
maybe I ought to re-think.

I think you will find the Felco range the best, I use the heavy duty ones
with the rotating handle and have never had a problem with big stuff not
cutting, it copes quite well with 1" diameter branches.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

bobharvey[_2_] 09-09-2010 01:26 PM

anvil secateurs?
 
On 8 Sep, 18:58, stuart noble wrote:
Can't seem to find anything decent in the way of anvil type secateurs.
My no name pair have given up after 25 years, and everything I look at
now is under a tenner, and likely to perform accordingly IME. Felco seem
to have discontinued the only anvil type (model 30), so I'm a bit
stumped. Anyone got any suggestions?


Draper do quite a nice one with non-slip blade, type 45315. It's
about 15 quid in the local garden centre and about 4 quid on the web.
Cheap enough to throw away when it has had it. Or local farm supplies
place has the Wolf RS22 for a tenner, they look quite good. Bahco
P138-22 are very rugged, but quite expensive, and I am not convinced
about the blade.

Or you could do some lateral thinking, and go for an industrial shear:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/s_10153_1...intS hip=true
I have one of the accu-cut and use it a huge amount for pipe, wood,
rope, and things like that.


stuart noble 09-09-2010 04:25 PM

anvil secateurs?
 
On 09/09/2010 13:26, bobharvey wrote:
On 8 Sep, 18:58, stuart wrote:
Can't seem to find anything decent in the way of anvil type secateurs.
My no name pair have given up after 25 years, and everything I look at
now is under a tenner, and likely to perform accordingly IME. Felco seem
to have discontinued the only anvil type (model 30), so I'm a bit
stumped. Anyone got any suggestions?


Draper do quite a nice one with non-slip blade, type 45315. It's
about 15 quid in the local garden centre and about 4 quid on the web.
Cheap enough to throw away when it has had it. Or local farm supplies
place has the Wolf RS22 for a tenner, they look quite good. Bahco
P138-22 are very rugged, but quite expensive, and I am not convinced
about the blade.


IME it's not the blade that's the problem, but the anvil part that it
goes into/against when squeezed. If that's worn, it tends to cut through
99% of the thickness of the material, and leave you the 1% to tear off
by hand, which is frustrating.
My latest is a £3 job from some supermarket, which looks sturdy enough
but, straight out of its shrink wrap, doesn't cut cleanly through a soft
5mm stalk.
I'll investigate the above though. Thanks for that.

Or you could do some lateral thinking, and go for an industrial shear:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/s_10153_1...intS hip=true
I have one of the accu-cut and use it a huge amount for pipe, wood,
rope, and things like that.





stuart noble 09-09-2010 04:29 PM

anvil secateurs?
 
On 09/09/2010 13:15, Charlie Pridham wrote:
In ,
says...
On 09/09/2010 09:01, Charlie Pridham wrote:
In ,
says...
stuart noble wrote:

Can't seem to find anything decent in the way of anvil type secateurs.
My no name pair have given up after 25 years, and everything I look at
now is under a tenner, and likely to perform accordingly IME. Felco seem
to have discontinued the only anvil type (model 30), so I'm a bit
stumped. Anyone got any suggestions?

Out of curiosity, why do you favour the anvil type?

Chris

I was going to ask that!!!


I suppose because most of my pruning is of woody shrubs. My experience
of the bypass types (albeit the cheaper ones) is that, under any sort of
pressure, the cutting edge deflects slightly and traps the material
rather than slicing through it.
I suppose the fact that Felco don't seem to do an anvil type suggests
maybe I ought to re-think.

I think you will find the Felco range the best, I use the heavy duty ones
with the rotating handle and have never had a problem with big stuff not
cutting, it copes quite well with 1" diameter branches.


Blimey, my maximum size is half that, and precious little of it too, but
I may have to go Felco just to avoid the frustration of using lousy
tools. I hate scissors that don't cut at their tips too :-)

Christina Websell[_2_] 09-09-2010 05:25 PM

anvil secateurs?
 

"stuart noble" wrote in message
...


My latest is a £3 job from some supermarket, which looks sturdy enough
but, straight out of its shrink wrap, doesn't cut cleanly through a soft
5mm stalk.


Take it back, it's not fit for the purpose it was sold for.
It doesn't matter how cheap they were, secateurs are supposed to be able to
cut and prune much bigger and woodier stems than that.
I always advise people to take back useless stuff. If you don't the company
that sell them won't realise how cr"p it is and will continue to sell it,
leading to more dissatisfied customers who don't complain who might say to
their friends "don't buy anything from xxx, their secateurs were rubbish."
Etc.
It's in that company's best interest to keep their customers happy and if
they don't realise they are not they might find business declining.
So, by taking your useless secateurs back you are actually doing them a
favour. Remind them of that if they claim otherwise when you do ;-)

Tina








Bob Hobden 09-09-2010 06:27 PM

anvil secateurs?
 


"Charlie Pridham" wrote ...
stuart_ says...
Charlie Pridham wrote:
says...
stuart noble wrote:

Can't seem to find anything decent in the way of anvil type
secateurs.
My no name pair have given up after 25 years, and everything I look
at
now is under a tenner, and likely to perform accordingly IME. Felco
seem
to have discontinued the only anvil type (model 30), so I'm a bit
stumped. Anyone got any suggestions?

Out of curiosity, why do you favour the anvil type?

I was going to ask that!!!


I suppose because most of my pruning is of woody shrubs. My experience
of the bypass types (albeit the cheaper ones) is that, under any sort of
pressure, the cutting edge deflects slightly and traps the material
rather than slicing through it.
I suppose the fact that Felco don't seem to do an anvil type suggests
maybe I ought to re-think.

I think you will find the Felco range the best, I use the heavy duty ones
with the rotating handle and have never had a problem with big stuff not
cutting, it copes quite well with 1" diameter branches.


No. 7. unless you are left handed.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK



stuart noble 09-09-2010 06:30 PM

anvil secateurs?
 
On 09/09/2010 17:25, Christina Websell wrote:
"stuart wrote in message
...


My latest is a £3 job from some supermarket, which looks sturdy enough
but, straight out of its shrink wrap, doesn't cut cleanly through a soft
5mm stalk.


Take it back, it's not fit for the purpose it was sold for.
It doesn't matter how cheap they were, secateurs are supposed to be able to
cut and prune much bigger and woodier stems than that.
I always advise people to take back useless stuff. If you don't the company
that sell them won't realise how cr"p it is and will continue to sell it,
leading to more dissatisfied customers who don't complain who might say to
their friends "don't buy anything from xxx, their secateurs were rubbish."
Etc.
It's in that company's best interest to keep their customers happy and if
they don't realise they are not they might find business declining.
So, by taking your useless secateurs back you are actually doing them a
favour. Remind them of that if they claim otherwise when you do ;-)

Tina



I really don't know if I can be bothered. Maybe if I'm passing the door

stuart noble 10-09-2010 08:42 AM

anvil secateurs?
 
On 09/09/2010 18:27, Bob Hobden wrote:


"Charlie Pridham" wrote ...
stuart_ says...
Charlie Pridham wrote:
says...
stuart noble wrote:

Can't seem to find anything decent in the way of anvil type
secateurs.
My no name pair have given up after 25 years, and everything I
look at
now is under a tenner, and likely to perform accordingly IME.
Felco seem
to have discontinued the only anvil type (model 30), so I'm a bit
stumped. Anyone got any suggestions?

Out of curiosity, why do you favour the anvil type?

I was going to ask that!!!

I suppose because most of my pruning is of woody shrubs. My experience
of the bypass types (albeit the cheaper ones) is that, under any sort of
pressure, the cutting edge deflects slightly and traps the material
rather than slicing through it.
I suppose the fact that Felco don't seem to do an anvil type suggests
maybe I ought to re-think.

I think you will find the Felco range the best, I use the heavy duty ones
with the rotating handle and have never had a problem with big stuff not
cutting, it copes quite well with 1" diameter branches.


No. 7. unless you are left handed.

The "for intensive and prolonged pruning" description is hardly
appropriate for my small garden, but maybe I'll indulge myself for once :-)

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 10-09-2010 09:04 AM

anvil secateurs?
 
In article ,
says...

"stuart noble" wrote in message
...


My latest is a £3 job from some supermarket, which looks sturdy enough
but, straight out of its shrink wrap, doesn't cut cleanly through a soft
5mm stalk.


Take it back, it's not fit for the purpose it was sold for.
It doesn't matter how cheap they were, secateurs are supposed to be able to
cut and prune much bigger and woodier stems than that.
I always advise people to take back useless stuff. If you don't the company
that sell them won't realise how cr"p it is and will continue to sell it,
leading to more dissatisfied customers who don't complain who might say to
their friends "don't buy anything from xxx, their secateurs were rubbish."
Etc.
It's in that company's best interest to keep their customers happy and if
they don't realise they are not they might find business declining.
So, by taking your useless secateurs back you are actually doing them a
favour. Remind them of that if they claim otherwise when you do ;-)

Tina

You are right of course, but I never do, is it a man thing? my wife will
allways do the returns but I wont even be in the store while she does it!
I am afraid a company never gets a second chance to put things right with
me, if it doesn't work out of the box thats it, into the bin and never go
there again.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

kay 10-09-2010 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Pridham[_2_] (Post 900000)
You are right of course, but I never do, is it a man thing? my wife will
allways do the returns but I wont even be in the store while she does it!
I am afraid a company never gets a second chance to put things right with
me, if it doesn't work out of the box thats it, into the bin and never go
there again.
--

You could say you were doing a favour to the company by complaining - giving them a chance to put things right.


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