Getting new apple trees
My intention is to get three new eating apple trees. One I would like to be a russet. Is a russet a russet or are there different types? For the other two, I would like some recomendations as to some nice ones. I'm not bothered about the blossom period as we already have a few various old apple trees. Any advice on buying also appreciated. I shan't be doing this very often so just want to get it right. mark |
Getting new apple trees
On Nov 6, 3:14*pm, "mark" wrote:
My intention is to get three new eating apple trees. One I would like to be a russet. Is a russet a russet or are there different types? For the other two, I would like some recomendations as to some nice ones. I'm not bothered about the blossom period as we already have a few various old apple trees. Any advice on buying also appreciated. I shan't be doing this very often so just want to get it right. mark Apple trees fall into groups. This refers to the time the blossom opens. Your trees need to be the same or adjacent groups so they get pollinated. A couple need two other trees to pollinate them. You can of course take into account your neighbours trees if any. |
Getting new apple trees
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2010-11-06 15:14:05 +0000, "mark" said: My intention is to get three new eating apple trees. One I would like to be a russet. Is a russet a russet or are there different types? For the other two, I would like some recomendations as to some nice ones. I'm not bothered about the blossom period as we already have a few various old apple trees. Any advice on buying also appreciated. I shan't be doing this very often so just want to get it right. mark These people have a good range of fruit trees of all types so even if you don't buy from them, you'll see some interesting names and info! http://www.thornhayes-nursery.co.uk/ -- Thanks Sacha... their catalogue is downloading. mark |
Getting new apple trees
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message ... mark wrote: My intention is to get three new eating apple trees. One I would like to be a russet. Is a russet a russet or are there different types? There are several types, but the one I've come across more often is the Egremont russet. Keeps well, crisp. For the other two, I would like some recomendations as to some nice ones. Charles Ross. Very large apples, keep well, good as eaters or cookers. One of the trees I thought I'd bought ('family' tree), but it turned out not to be as labelled. (So I'm cutting out the Discovery and graftig a Charles Ross on instead.) I'm not bothered about the blossom period as we already have a few various old apple trees. Any advice on buying also appreciated. I shan't be doing this very often so just want to get it right. Right. I'd go for a 'family' tree if you can find one with suitable varieties. Mine should have been Charles Ross, James Grieve and Discovery, but the biggest section turned out not to be Chas Ross, but an apple which resembles Discovery, but keeps a bit better. James Grieve is a good candidate for you - a fairly large eater which keeps well. Another one I'd point at as a contender is Devonshire Quarenden (also billed as D. Quarrenden and just Quar(r)enden). This s a smallish apple which starts as a green one with a claret flush. At this stage, and with unripe pips, it's crisp, sweet and juicy. Ripe, it's claret-coloured all over, softer, sweeter, and has a delightful scent. Even riper, it is sweeter and eminently gummable. Bramleys are pretty easy to find, so I'd suggest you look at a codling if you want a cooker. They make very good baked apples, and cooked, the apple pulp is not lumpy. Family tree? mark |
Getting new apple trees
mark wrote:
My intention is to get three new eating apple trees. One I would like to be a russet. Is a russet a russet or are there different types? There are several types, but the one I've come across more often is the Egremont russet. Keeps well, crisp. For the other two, I would like some recomendations as to some nice ones. Charles Ross. Very large apples, keep well, good as eaters or cookers. One of the trees I thought I'd bought ('family' tree), but it turned out not to be as labelled. (So I'm cutting out the Discovery and graftig a Charles Ross on instead.) I'm not bothered about the blossom period as we already have a few various old apple trees. Any advice on buying also appreciated. I shan't be doing this very often so just want to get it right. Right. I'd go for a 'family' tree if you can find one with suitable varieties. Mine should have been Charles Ross, James Grieve and Discovery, but the biggest section turned out not to be Chas Ross, but an apple which resembles Discovery, but keeps a bit better. James Grieve is a good candidate for you - a fairly large eater which keeps well. Another one I'd point at as a contender is Devonshire Quarenden (also billed as D. Quarrenden and just Quar(r)enden). This s a smallish apple which starts as a green one with a claret flush. At this stage, and with unripe pips, it's crisp, sweet and juicy. Ripe, it's claret-coloured all over, softer, sweeter, and has a delightful scent. Even riper, it is sweeter and eminently gummable. Bramleys are pretty easy to find, so I'd suggest you look at a codling if you want a cooker. They make very good baked apples, and cooked, the apple pulp is not lumpy. -- Rusty |
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Of the ones that I grow: Herrings Pippin (dual purpose, autumn) has a spicy flavour, almost as if you've already sprinkled the cinnamon on it. The apples can be very large - combined with the strong taste I sometimes find I can only eat half an apple at a time. Forge (eater) at its best also has a spicy flavour. Cornish Aromatic (eater - Dec-Mar) has a quite complex flavour, it's my favourite of the ones I grow. But it allegedly prefers a warmer climate (I'm growing it in Yorkshire!) Worcester Permain (early), although found in supermarkets, develops its best flavour when allowed to ripen on the tree. Often described as 'strawberry like" I don't grow it, but Keswick Codlin (cooker) dissolves into beautiful light sweet fluff when baked. You could also consider a family tree - ie 3 varieties grafted on to one tree. The used to be pretty boring, eg golden delicious plus red delicious plus something else equally uninspiring, but I noticed at Harlow Carr some family trees with two out of three looking fairly interesting. Have you considered what rootstock you want? |
Getting new apple trees
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Family tree? \\ ||Variety 3 \\ || \\ |\ ------graft Variety 2 \\| | \ | //Variety 1 graft---| |// |_ / -----graft | | rootstock--- | | | | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~""""""""~~~~~~~~~~ -- Rusty |
Getting new apple trees
"Sacha" wrote "mark" said: My intention is to get three new eating apple trees. One I would like to be a russet. Is a russet a russet or are there different types? For the other two, I would like some recomendations as to some nice ones. I'm not bothered about the blossom period as we already have a few various old apple trees. Any advice on buying also appreciated. I shan't be doing this very often so just want to get it right. These people have a good range of fruit trees of all types so even if you don't buy from them, you'll see some interesting names and info! http://www.thornhayes-nursery.co.uk/ I can also recommend ... http://www.blackmoor.co.uk/ Just bought a cherry from them and was rather impressed by the quality. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK |
Getting new apple trees
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message ... mark wrote: Family tree? \\ ||Variety 3 \\ || \\ |\ ------graft Variety 2 \\| | \ | //Variety 1 graft---| |// |_ / -----graft | | rootstock--- | | | | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~""""""""~~~~~~~~~~ Gotcha...more than one variety on same tree... I vaguely remember them being advertised in magazines. Interesting, I'll have to mull that one over now. Getting jolly complicated this apple tree buying lark! mark |
Getting new apple trees
On 06/11/2010 16:10, mark wrote:
"Rusty wrote in message ... mark wrote: My intention is to get three new eating apple trees. One I would like to be a russet. Is a russet a russet or are there different types? There are several types, but the one I've come across more often is the Egremont russet. Keeps well, crisp. For the other two, I would like some recomendations as to some nice ones. Charles Ross. Very large apples, keep well, good as eaters or cookers. One of the trees I thought I'd bought ('family' tree), but it turned out not to be as labelled. (So I'm cutting out the Discovery and graftig a Charles Ross on instead.) I'm not bothered about the blossom period as we already have a few various old apple trees. Any advice on buying also appreciated. I shan't be doing this very often so just want to get it right. Right. I'd go for a 'family' tree if you can find one with suitable varieties. Mine should have been Charles Ross, James Grieve and Discovery, but the biggest section turned out not to be Chas Ross, but an apple which resembles Discovery, but keeps a bit better. James Grieve is a good candidate for you - a fairly large eater which keeps well. Another one I'd point at as a contender is Devonshire Quarenden (also billed as D. Quarrenden and just Quar(r)enden). This s a smallish apple which starts as a green one with a claret flush. At this stage, and with unripe pips, it's crisp, sweet and juicy. Ripe, it's claret-coloured all over, softer, sweeter, and has a delightful scent. Even riper, it is sweeter and eminently gummable. Bramleys are pretty easy to find, so I'd suggest you look at a codling if you want a cooker. They make very good baked apples, and cooked, the apple pulp is not lumpy. Family tree? Has two or three different cultivars grafted onto a single rootstock in approximate order of vigour. Gives you decent numbers of two or three varieties of apples in the space occupied by one tree. You do have to be fairly confident about pruning but it isn't hard to keep in balance. I have Egremont Russet and Sunset (Cox type without the annoyances) as a family tree and it does very nicely. The Russet is a bit on the vigorous side and has to be kept under control. Sunset would definitely be eclipsed by the faster growing Russet if left to its own devices. I would quite like to get one of the quick to ripen early non keepers. We used to have a wonderful scarlet red one with pink flesh name unknown in Belgium. Worth it for having the first apples of the season. (anyone recognise it from this description?) Regards, Martin Brown |
Getting new apple trees
"mark" wrote in message o.uk... My intention is to get three new eating apple trees. One I would like to be a russet. Is a russet a russet or are there different types? For the other two, I would like some recomendations as to some nice ones. I'm not bothered about the blossom period as we already have a few various old apple trees. Any advice on buying also appreciated. I shan't be doing this very often so just want to get it right. mark http://www.keepers-nursery.co.uk/ Great selection, excellent quality & service. There are several russets to choose from of which Egremont Russet is the best known. Good keeper, good eating Tydemans Late Orange. It keeps easily into the New Year and is still good. If you eat it too soon you'll find it too sharp if you're used to supermarket apples. Superb eater for early/mid November Topaz, a newish Czech variety. Pick it mid Oct, eat it now - it's the apple you wish Cox's Orange Pippin was. Again this one shouldn't be eaten straight off the tree. Sunset - well proven Cox type, my favourite 'til I tried Topaz. This should be eaten soon after picking. Bramley Clone 20, more compact than most of the other clones but still buy it on M9 rootstock if you have decent soil. All Bramleys are triploid and therefore need at least 2 pollinators but you have that covered anyway. Read the advice re. rootstocks on Keeper's website. Rod |
Getting new apple trees
Martin Brown wrote:
I would quite like to get one of the quick to ripen early non keepers. We used to have a wonderful scarlet red one with pink flesh name unknown in Belgium. Worth it for having the first apples of the season. (anyone recognise it from this description?) Yes, but my forgettory is working overtime. If no-one else can suggest what it is, I'll ask someone loacally who probably will. If you want a swotch of Discovery, or a similar-looking (but nicer) apple, I'd be pleased to send you some when I hak them off to graft a coule of varieties I prefer. (Charles Ross is one of them, if you hadn't guessed.) -- Rusty |
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