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Janet Tweedy 09-01-2011 12:59 AM

courtyard gardens at Chelsea
 
Of all the exhibits at Chelsea I always find the courtyard gardens the
most appealing and the most relevant to actual gardening.

However that category has been replaced for 2011 and in its place is
something called
The Artisan Garden category

this new scheme apparently wants or rather "asks designers to use
natural, sustainably resourced materials in an artistic manner."

"The established Urban Gardens category looks for clever solutions for
small outdoor spaces"

SIGH ....................

What's wrong with original Horticultural ideas?
This all seems more Diermaund Garvin than Gertrude Jekyll!!

The gardens described individually have things such as "a grown up
paddling pool" sound suspiciously "off the wall" with their plans.
Details at:

http://www.hortweek.com/news/bulleti...in/article/104
7441/?DCMP=EMC-CONParksGardensNews

..
Janet

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Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Dave Hill 09-01-2011 02:16 PM

courtyard gardens at Chelsea
 
On Jan 9, 12:31*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-01-09 00:59:02 +0000, Janet Tweedy said:





Of all the exhibits at Chelsea I always *find the courtyard gardens the
most appealing and the most relevant to actual gardening.


However that category has been replaced for 2011 and in its place is
something called
The Artisan Garden category


this new scheme apparently wants or rather "asks designers to use
natural, sustainably resourced materials in an artistic manner."


"The established Urban Gardens category looks for clever solutions for
small outdoor spaces"


SIGH ....................


What's wrong with original Horticultural ideas?
This all seems more Diermaund Garvin than Gertrude Jekyll!!


The gardens described individually have things such as "a grown up
paddling pool" *sound suspiciously "off the wall" with their plans.
Details at:


http://www.hortweek.com/news/bulleti...lletin/article...
7441/?DCMP=EMC-CONParksGardensNews


.
Janet


Do you remember that back in the Cormac days there was some murmurings
about urg doing a courtyard garden? *It all seemed to die away and I
can't remember why - I recall that we said we'd grow some of the plants
if necessary but we went on holiday while it was still being discussed
and ISTR it had died the death by the time we got back!
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon- Hide quoted text -

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If I remember it was due to several things, Having to submit the
design so far in advance so it would require a very long term
comitment from at least one person for no return, how to agree on a
design and then having to get the required plants up to standard
Logistics, having to round up plants from a wide area, hold them in
prime condition till setting up, making sure that there were
sufficient people to build the garden.
It is hard for a Nursery to do a display garden at Chelsea without a
lot of sponsership, gone are the days of Nurseries doing it all
themselves.
David Hill

Rod[_5_] 09-01-2011 06:32 PM

courtyard gardens at Chelsea
 
On Jan 9, 2:16*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
On Jan 9, 12:31*pm, Sacha wrote:





On 2011-01-09 00:59:02 +0000, Janet Tweedy said:


Of all the exhibits at Chelsea I always *find the courtyard gardens the
most appealing and the most relevant to actual gardening.


However that category has been replaced for 2011 and in its place is
something called
The Artisan Garden category


this new scheme apparently wants or rather "asks designers to use
natural, sustainably resourced materials in an artistic manner."


"The established Urban Gardens category looks for clever solutions for
small outdoor spaces"


SIGH ....................


What's wrong with original Horticultural ideas?
This all seems more Diermaund Garvin than Gertrude Jekyll!!


The gardens described individually have things such as "a grown up
paddling pool" *sound suspiciously "off the wall" with their plans.
Details at:


http://www.hortweek.com/news/bulleti...lletin/article....
7441/?DCMP=EMC-CONParksGardensNews


.
Janet


Do you remember that back in the Cormac days there was some murmurings
about urg doing a courtyard garden? *It all seemed to die away and I
can't remember why - I recall that we said we'd grow some of the plants
if necessary but we went on holiday while it was still being discussed
and ISTR it had died the death by the time we got back!
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


If I remember it was due to several things, *Having to submit the
design so far in advance so it would require a very long term
comitment from at least one person for no return, how to agree on a
design and then having to get the required plants up to standard
Logistics, having to round up plants from a wide area, hold them in
prime condition till setting up, making sure that there were
sufficient people to build the garden.
It is hard for a Nursery to do a display garden at Chelsea without a
lot of sponsership, gone are the days of Nurseries doing it all
themselves.
David Hill- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I well remember the discussion around this and thought of all of the
costs and effort that went into the Chelsea display by the rose
nursery I worked at in the late '60s. Mind you they usually got a
large gold.
A dedicated 120ft x 60ft mobile greenhouse with warm air heater and
automatic ventilators + 1 guy full time, with help as required through
the late winter and spring just for Chelsea + all of the other costs -
staffing, logistics, design etc.................................
Then the wailing and gnashing of teeth one spring when the whole house
was lifted bodily by a storm and dropped 2ft to one side and shed
about 1\3 of the glass into the roses.
So the Courtyard Garden would have been a huge undertaking for a group
of volunteers with other commitments - nice idea though.

Rod

Dave Hill 09-01-2011 10:25 PM

courtyard gardens at Chelsea
 
On Jan 9, 6:32*pm, Rod wrote:
On Jan 9, 2:16*pm, Dave Hill wrote:





On Jan 9, 12:31*pm, Sacha wrote:


On 2011-01-09 00:59:02 +0000, Janet Tweedy said:


Of all the exhibits at Chelsea I always *find the courtyard gardens the
most appealing and the most relevant to actual gardening.


However that category has been replaced for 2011 and in its place is
something called
The Artisan Garden category


this new scheme apparently wants or rather "asks designers to use
natural, sustainably resourced materials in an artistic manner."


"The established Urban Gardens category looks for clever solutions for
small outdoor spaces"


SIGH ....................


What's wrong with original Horticultural ideas?
This all seems more Diermaund Garvin than Gertrude Jekyll!!


The gardens described individually have things such as "a grown up
paddling pool" *sound suspiciously "off the wall" with their plans.
Details at:


http://www.hortweek.com/news/bulleti...lletin/article...
7441/?DCMP=EMC-CONParksGardensNews


.
Janet


Do you remember that back in the Cormac days there was some murmurings
about urg doing a courtyard garden? *It all seemed to die away and I
can't remember why - I recall that we said we'd grow some of the plants
if necessary but we went on holiday while it was still being discussed
and ISTR it had died the death by the time we got back!
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


If I remember it was due to several things, *Having to submit the
design so far in advance so it would require a very long term
comitment from at least one person for no return, how to agree on a
design and then having to get the required plants up to standard
Logistics, having to round up plants from a wide area, hold them in
prime condition till setting up, making sure that there were
sufficient people to build the garden.
It is hard for a Nursery to do a display garden at Chelsea without a
lot of sponsership, gone are the days of Nurseries doing it all
themselves.
David Hill- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I well remember the discussion around this and thought of all of the
costs and effort that went into the Chelsea display by the rose
nursery I worked at in the late '60s. Mind you they usually got a
large gold.
A dedicated 120ft x 60ft mobile greenhouse with warm air heater and
automatic ventilators + 1 guy full time, with help as required through
the late winter and spring just for Chelsea + all of the other costs -
staffing, logistics, design etc.................................
Then the wailing and gnashing of teeth one spring when the whole house
was lifted bodily by a storm and dropped 2ft to one side and shed
about 1\3 of the glass into the roses.
So the Courtyard Garden would have been a huge undertaking for a group
of volunteers with other commitments - nice idea though.

Rod- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I did Chelsea in 76 and got a Silver Gilt, but that was for an inside
display, fortunatly you didn't have to submit plans, I just took the
best of what I had and built it as I went, (I still work that way).
About 4 weeks before the show they rang me to ask if I could do a full
island instead of half, in my ignorance I said Yes.
I just had one of my customers who came with me to help, and we had a
caravan which we parked over in Battersey park, They had never had
anyone park there before, and just charged £5.00 for the duration, it
was great, the Thames behind us, a lawn to the side and toilets with
Hot water almost opposite us.
Now that is where everyone parks.
Very hard work and long days, and I saw almost nothing of the show.
But I'd love to do it again and would love to get a Chelsea Gold.
Mind you what I'd really like is one of those Tudor Roses from Hampton
Court show.
David Hill

Alan 09-01-2011 11:14 PM

courtyard gardens at Chelsea
 
In message , Sacha
wrote

A year will be spent planning the venue, the service, the dress, the
music and about 3 weeks before The Day, the bride's mum races in
desperate for 8 baskets full of mature, flowering white something.


Why is that unreasonable? Go around 99% of garden centres in the UK and
you will see all the plants for sale in full bloom.

No longer do garden centres sell plants for planting out to get
established before flowering.
--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk


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