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Dave Hill 13-01-2011 09:10 PM

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NEW Giant Tree Dahlias - the tallest dahlias ever!

These stunning new winter hardy Giant Tree Dahlias cannot fail to make
a dramatic impact in your garden! The large flowers appear year after
year with blooms which keep getting bigger and better. Growing up to
160 cm tall (over 5 ft) these are the tallest dahlias ever.

Available in 3 fantastic varieties (see below) - choose from bright
red Acapluco, sunshine yellow Bridgeview Aloha or soft lilac Sugar
Diamond. Or buy our collection of all three for a glorious and
colourful display.

This is from an on line catalogue I received today.from Van Meuwen

Tree dahlias grow anythimg up to 20 ft tall and these dahlias don't
even grow to the advertised height.
Also Acapluco has been around for almost 10 years, and they are no
more "Hardy" than any other dahlias

David Hill

Mike Lyle[_1_] 14-01-2011 02:33 PM

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:36:53 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:57:52 +0000, Mike Lyle wrote:

[...]

I have some rules of thumb about gardening catalogues: when they say
"blue", they're probably lying, and when they add an exclamation mark
to anything, they're certainly lying. "New" is a falsehood, too: you
get genuinely new varieties from specialists, not from mass-marketers,
and most it means "this hasn't been in our catalogue before".

^^^^^
"...and AT THE most...", of course.

The agencies also have a selection of petite models to make goods look
big in photographs.


The same models they use for selling small boats with inadequate headroom?


Yep. An exception to the general rule that one must be tall to be a
model.

--
Mike.

Dave Hill 14-01-2011 03:21 PM

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On Jan 14, 2:33*pm, Mike Lyle wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:36:53 +0100, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:57:52 +0000, Mike Lyle wrote:

[...]

I have some rules of thumb about gardening catalogues: when they say
"blue", they're probably lying, and when they add an exclamation mark
to anything, they're certainly lying. "New" is a falsehood, too: you
get genuinely new varieties from specialists, not from mass-marketers,
and most it means "this hasn't been in our catalogue before".


* * *^^^^^
"...and AT THE most...", of course.



The agencies also have a selection of petite models to make goods look
big in photographs.


The same models they use for selling small boats with inadequate headroom?


Yep. An exception to the general rule that one must be tall to be a
model.

--
Mike.


And when they say "For Only" you know it is expensive.

Gary Woods 14-01-2011 03:31 PM

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Mike Lyle wrote:

I have some rules of thumb about gardening catalogues: when they say
"blue", they're probably lying,


I remember a list of catalog terms"

Mostly hardy: will die.
Tender in some locations: will die.

etc.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Alan 14-01-2011 06:50 PM

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In message
, Dave
Hill wrote

And when they say "For Only" you know it is expensive.



And when they offer a "free gift" you know that you are actually paying
for it with the cost of an order. Two thirds of the order value for the
free gift and all the junk mail and a third for second rate plants.
--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

Alan 14-01-2011 06:52 PM

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In message , Gary Woods
wrote
Mike Lyle wrote:

I have some rules of thumb about gardening catalogues: when they say
"blue", they're probably lying,


I remember a list of catalog terms"

Mostly hardy: will die.
Tender in some locations: will die.


http://www.mez.co.uk/haynes.html

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

Gary Woods 14-01-2011 07:49 PM

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Alan wrote:


http://www.mez.co.uk/haynes.html


Thanks for this; although I'm in the American colonies, I once had a Saab
V-4 which was equipped with a Lucas alternator. Which failed, teaching me
that the Lucas end of the mounting bracket had "English" hardware, whereas
the German engine end was metric.

We now return you to your gardens already in progress. Mine has a foot
(30cm) of snow on it.

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

David in Normandy[_8_] 14-01-2011 08:04 PM

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On 14/01/2011 18:16, hugh wrote:


The agencies also have a selection of petite models to make goods look
big in photographs.


The same models they use for selling small boats with inadequate
headroom?

And probably the same as house builders use to make rooms seem larger.


Reminds me of some show-houses we went to see in the UK once. I made an
out-loud comment to another couple there that I'd found the linen
cupboards but couldn't find the bedrooms. When we all got outside again
the agent was waiting and said "The one next door is a lot larger".
Hmmmm. Hidden microphone?

Apparently a common scam with show-houses is that they use 3/4 size
furniture to make the rooms look bigger than they are.

--
David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.

hugh 14-01-2011 08:16 PM

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In message , David in
Normandy writes
On 14/01/2011 18:16, hugh wrote:


The agencies also have a selection of petite models to make goods look
big in photographs.

The same models they use for selling small boats with inadequate
headroom?

And probably the same as house builders use to make rooms seem larger.


Reminds me of some show-houses we went to see in the UK once. I made an
out-loud comment to another couple there that I'd found the linen
cupboards but couldn't find the bedrooms. When we all got outside again
the agent was waiting and said "The one next door is a lot larger".
Hmmmm. Hidden microphone?

Apparently a common scam with show-houses is that they use 3/4 size
furniture to make the rooms look bigger than they are.

They do indeed - straight from the horses mouth.
--
hugh
"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, Or who said it, Even if
I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own
common sense." Buddha

alan.holmes 14-01-2011 10:24 PM

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"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
On Jan 14, 2:33 pm, Mike Lyle wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:36:53 +0100, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:57:52 +0000, Mike Lyle
wrote:

[...]

I have some rules of thumb about gardening catalogues: when they say
"blue", they're probably lying, and when they add an exclamation mark
to anything, they're certainly lying. "New" is a falsehood, too: you
get genuinely new varieties from specialists, not from mass-marketers,
and most it means "this hasn't been in our catalogue before".


^^^^^
"...and AT THE most...", of course.



The agencies also have a selection of petite models to make goods look
big in photographs.


The same models they use for selling small boats with inadequate
headroom?


Yep. An exception to the general rule that one must be tall to be a
model.

--
Mike.


And when they say "For Only" you know it is expensive.


And 'under £1000, when it is 'only' £999.99'!

Alan





'Mike'[_4_] 14-01-2011 10:32 PM

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"alan.holmes" wrote in message
...

"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
On Jan 14, 2:33 pm, Mike Lyle wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:36:53 +0100, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:57:52 +0000, Mike Lyle
wrote:

[...]

I have some rules of thumb about gardening catalogues: when they say
"blue", they're probably lying, and when they add an exclamation mark
to anything, they're certainly lying. "New" is a falsehood, too: you
get genuinely new varieties from specialists, not from mass-marketers,
and most it means "this hasn't been in our catalogue before".


^^^^^
"...and AT THE most...", of course.



The agencies also have a selection of petite models to make goods look
big in photographs.


The same models they use for selling small boats with inadequate
headroom?


Yep. An exception to the general rule that one must be tall to be a
model.

--
Mike.


And when they say "For Only" you know it is expensive.


And 'under £1000, when it is 'only' £999.99'!

Alan





Why are so many car sales at £*995 ?

Are YOU fooled? Does it look cheaper to you?

Mike


--

....................................
Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive
....................................




Bob Hobden 14-01-2011 11:56 PM

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"Gary Woods" wrote ...

Alan wrote:


http://www.mez.co.uk/haynes.html


Thanks for this; although I'm in the American colonies, I once had a Saab
V-4 which was equipped with a Lucas alternator. Which failed, teaching me
that the Lucas end of the mounting bracket had "English" hardware, whereas
the German engine end was metric.

We now return you to your gardens already in progress. Mine has a foot
(30cm) of snow on it.

You should worry, my 1986 Landrover uses both Metric and Imperial sizes of
bolts etc, and considering it's age there is no way of knowing which is
which. I find a grinder to be a good nut removal tool.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK


hugh 16-01-2011 07:13 PM

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In message , Bob Hobden
writes


"Gary Woods" wrote ...

Alan wrote:


http://www.mez.co.uk/haynes.html


Thanks for this; although I'm in the American colonies, I once had a Saab
V-4 which was equipped with a Lucas alternator. Which failed, teaching me
that the Lucas end of the mounting bracket had "English" hardware, whereas
the German engine end was metric.

We now return you to your gardens already in progress. Mine has a foot
(30cm) of snow on it.

You should worry, my 1986 Landrover uses both Metric and Imperial sizes
of bolts etc, and considering it's age there is no way of knowing which
is which. I find a grinder to be a good nut removal tool.

Tyre sizes are metric, wheel sizes are in inches
--
hugh
"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, Or who said it, Even if
I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own
common sense." Buddha

Dave Hill 16-01-2011 07:43 PM

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On Jan 16, 7:13*pm, hugh ] wrote:
In message , Bob Hobden
writes





"Gary Woods" *wrote ...


Alan *wrote:


http://www.mez.co.uk/haynes.html


Thanks for this; although I'm in the American colonies, I once had a Saab
V-4 which was equipped with a Lucas alternator. *Which failed, teaching me
that the Lucas end of the mounting bracket had "English" hardware, whereas
the German engine end was metric.


We now return you to your gardens already in progress. *Mine has a foot
(30cm) of snow on it.


You should worry, my 1986 Landrover uses both Metric and Imperial sizes
of bolts etc, and considering it's age there is no way of knowing which
is which. I find a grinder to be a good nut removal tool.


Tyre sizes are metric, wheel sizes are in inches
--
hugh
"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, Or who said it, Even if
I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own
common sense." Buddha- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think one of the best was a shower I looked at, it was Metric input
and imperial output.

bobharvey[_2_] 17-01-2011 10:05 AM

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On Jan 14, 5:58*pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
Surely we all have 40ft square kitchens and bathrooms like in the adverts..


Whilst most adverts wash over me, that actually annoys me to the point
of stomping out of the room.


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