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shazzbat 08-03-2011 10:47 AM

Bug id please
 
I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is black, or
very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone know what it
is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/

--
Steve


Never shake the ketchup bottle. None'll come, and then a lot'll


shazzbat 08-03-2011 10:49 AM

Bug id please
 

"shazzbat" wrote in message
...
I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is black, or
very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone know what it
is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/

--


And don't tell me it's name is Stanley. We've done the Stanley gag.

Steve


Charlie Pridham[_2_] 08-03-2011 12:45 PM

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In article ,
says...
I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is black, or
very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone know what it
is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/


I can't get beyond the thumb nails (my computer not your photos!)
but it has the shape of a devils coachman
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Jake 08-03-2011 05:50 PM

Bug id please
 
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:45:45 -0000, Charlie Pridham
wrote:

In article ,
says...
I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is black, or
very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone know what it
is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/


I can't get beyond the thumb nails (my computer not your photos!)
but it has the shape of a devils coachman


Took me a few goes to get the "large photos" as well but I think
Charlie's right though at 35mm long (it looks like that against your
tape) it's a big one. They're usually under 30mm long. Try this photo
for an enlarged view albeit from somewhere outside the UK:

http://www.treknature.com/gallery/Af...hoto207966.htm


meme 08-03-2011 06:44 PM

Bug id please
 
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:47:34 -0000, "shazzbat"
wrote:

I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is black, or
very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone know what it
is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/



I would guess a female Glow worm

rbel 08-03-2011 09:29 PM

Bug id please
 
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:47:34 -0000, shazzbat
wrote:

I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is black, or
very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone know what
it is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/


Initial thought is that it is the _larval stage_ of a beetle, probably one
of the many species of staphylinidae ('staph' or rove beetle) a very good
predator of garden pests.

--
rbel

gogo[_3_] 09-03-2011 09:54 AM

Bug id please
 
On 08/03/2011 21:29, rbel wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:47:34 -0000, shazzbat
wrote:

I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is black,
or very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone know
what it is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/


Initial thought is that it is the _larval stage_ of a beetle, probably
one of the many species of staphylinidae ('staph' or rove beetle) a very
good predator of garden pests.


I agree completely. Type "staphylinidae larvae" or "coleoptera larvae"
in Google image and you'll see many similar beatsies. Very difficult to
determine which though..

shazzbat 09-03-2011 10:04 AM

Bug id please
 

"gogo" wrote in message
...
On 08/03/2011 21:29, rbel wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:47:34 -0000, shazzbat
wrote:

I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is black,
or very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone know
what it is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/


Initial thought is that it is the _larval stage_ of a beetle, probably
one of the many species of staphylinidae ('staph' or rove beetle) a very
good predator of garden pests.


I agree completely. Type "staphylinidae larvae" or "coleoptera larvae" in
Google image and you'll see many similar beatsies. Very difficult to
determine which though..


Thanks for your replies everyone. I've googled images and I think the female
glowworm is nearest to the one I found.

As long as I haven't suddenly acquired a deadly enemy I'm not that fussed.

Steve



shazzbat 09-03-2011 12:11 PM

Bug id please
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-03-09 10:04:52 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:


"gogo" wrote in message
...
On 08/03/2011 21:29, rbel wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:47:34 -0000, shazzbat
wrote:

I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is black,
or very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone know
what it is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/


Initial thought is that it is the _larval stage_ of a beetle, probably
one of the many species of staphylinidae ('staph' or rove beetle) a
very
good predator of garden pests.


I agree completely. Type "staphylinidae larvae" or "coleoptera larvae"
in Google image and you'll see many similar beatsies. Very difficult to
determine which though..


Thanks for your replies everyone. I've googled images and I think the
female glowworm is nearest to the one I found.

As long as I haven't suddenly acquired a deadly enemy I'm not that
fussed.

Steve


Aren't glow worms pretty rare now? If you've got them, lucky you.
--



I've never been to the allotment in the dark, so I wouldn't know. None of
the neighbours have reported anything glowing though.

Steve


meme 09-03-2011 03:31 PM

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On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:45:53 +0000, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-03-09 12:11:21 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-03-09 10:04:52 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:


"gogo" wrote in message
...
On 08/03/2011 21:29, rbel wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:47:34 -0000, shazzbat
wrote:

I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is black,
or very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone know
what it is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/


Initial thought is that it is the _larval stage_ of a beetle, probably
one of the many species of staphylinidae ('staph' or rove beetle) a very
good predator of garden pests.


I agree completely. Type "staphylinidae larvae" or "coleoptera larvae"
in Google image and you'll see many similar beatsies. Very difficult to
determine which though..

Thanks for your replies everyone. I've googled images and I think the
female glowworm is nearest to the one I found.

As long as I haven't suddenly acquired a deadly enemy I'm not that fussed.

Steve

Aren't glow worms pretty rare now? If you've got them, lucky you.
--



I've never been to the allotment in the dark, so I wouldn't know. None
of the neighbours have reported anything glowing though.

Steve


I've only ever seen them at a friend's house in France. I think the
glow is the light of love - or lust - in mid-summer.
http://www.johntyler.co.uk/gwfacts.htm

Hi all
Glow worms are fairly rare but the lack of reporting and people not
recognising them skewers the numbers that are actually out there.
From about April onwards if you find the right area you will see the
larvae stage.(make a note of this as somewhere within 25-50 yards will
be the breeding ground)
Late July you need to go out when its dark to see the female glowing.
There is a reporting website http://www.glowworms.org.uk/
From which I have reported a colony and the more people report the
better overal picture will be seen.

'Mike'[_4_] 09-03-2011 03:36 PM

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"meme" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:45:53 +0000, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-03-09 12:11:21 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-03-09 10:04:52 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:


"gogo" wrote in message
...
On 08/03/2011 21:29, rbel wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:47:34 -0000, shazzbat
wrote:

I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is
black,
or very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone
know
what it is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/


Initial thought is that it is the _larval stage_ of a beetle,
probably
one of the many species of staphylinidae ('staph' or rove beetle) a
very
good predator of garden pests.


I agree completely. Type "staphylinidae larvae" or "coleoptera
larvae"
in Google image and you'll see many similar beatsies. Very difficult
to
determine which though..

Thanks for your replies everyone. I've googled images and I think the
female glowworm is nearest to the one I found.

As long as I haven't suddenly acquired a deadly enemy I'm not that
fussed.

Steve

Aren't glow worms pretty rare now? If you've got them, lucky you.
--


I've never been to the allotment in the dark, so I wouldn't know. None
of the neighbours have reported anything glowing though.

Steve


I've only ever seen them at a friend's house in France. I think the
glow is the light of love - or lust - in mid-summer.
http://www.johntyler.co.uk/gwfacts.htm

Hi all
Glow worms are fairly rare but the lack of reporting and people not
recognising them skewers the numbers that are actually out there.
From about April onwards if you find the right area you will see the
larvae stage.(make a note of this as somewhere within 25-50 yards will
be the breeding ground)
Late July you need to go out when its dark to see the female glowing.
There is a reporting website http://www.glowworms.org.uk/
From which I have reported a colony and the more people report the
better overal picture will be seen.



Years and years ago when I was a Sea Scout, we went camping and there were
dozens of Glow-worms about and some bright spark thought of collecting some
in a jam jar so we could read at night in out tents :-((

Didn't work!!

Mike


--

....................................
Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive
....................................




shazzbat 09-03-2011 04:07 PM

Bug id please
 

"meme" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:45:53 +0000, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-03-09 12:11:21 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-03-09 10:04:52 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:


"gogo" wrote in message
...
On 08/03/2011 21:29, rbel wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:47:34 -0000, shazzbat
wrote:

I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is
black,
or very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone
know
what it is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/


Initial thought is that it is the _larval stage_ of a beetle,
probably
one of the many species of staphylinidae ('staph' or rove beetle) a
very
good predator of garden pests.


I agree completely. Type "staphylinidae larvae" or "coleoptera
larvae"
in Google image and you'll see many similar beatsies. Very difficult
to
determine which though..

Thanks for your replies everyone. I've googled images and I think the
female glowworm is nearest to the one I found.

As long as I haven't suddenly acquired a deadly enemy I'm not that
fussed.

Steve

Aren't glow worms pretty rare now? If you've got them, lucky you.
--


I've never been to the allotment in the dark, so I wouldn't know. None
of the neighbours have reported anything glowing though.

Steve


I've only ever seen them at a friend's house in France. I think the
glow is the light of love - or lust - in mid-summer.
http://www.johntyler.co.uk/gwfacts.htm

Hi all
Glow worms are fairly rare but the lack of reporting and people not
recognising them skewers the numbers that are actually out there.
From about April onwards if you find the right area you will see the
larvae stage.(make a note of this as somewhere within 25-50 yards will
be the breeding ground)
Late July you need to go out when its dark to see the female glowing.
There is a reporting website http://www.glowworms.org.uk/
From which I have reported a colony and the more people report the
better overal picture will be seen.


I might go down there then, remind me in July. Are they likely to be found
on allotments? The one I found was in some grass I was clearing, does that
sound likely?

Steve


meme 09-03-2011 05:01 PM

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On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:07:30 -0000, "shazzbat"
wrote:


"meme" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:45:53 +0000, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-03-09 12:11:21 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-03-09 10:04:52 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:


"gogo" wrote in message
...
On 08/03/2011 21:29, rbel wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:47:34 -0000, shazzbat
wrote:

I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is
black,
or very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone
know
what it is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/


Initial thought is that it is the _larval stage_ of a beetle,
probably
one of the many species of staphylinidae ('staph' or rove beetle) a
very
good predator of garden pests.


I agree completely. Type "staphylinidae larvae" or "coleoptera
larvae"
in Google image and you'll see many similar beatsies. Very difficult
to
determine which though..

Thanks for your replies everyone. I've googled images and I think the
female glowworm is nearest to the one I found.

As long as I haven't suddenly acquired a deadly enemy I'm not that
fussed.

Steve

Aren't glow worms pretty rare now? If you've got them, lucky you.
--


I've never been to the allotment in the dark, so I wouldn't know. None
of the neighbours have reported anything glowing though.

Steve

I've only ever seen them at a friend's house in France. I think the
glow is the light of love - or lust - in mid-summer.
http://www.johntyler.co.uk/gwfacts.htm

Hi all
Glow worms are fairly rare but the lack of reporting and people not
recognising them skewers the numbers that are actually out there.
From about April onwards if you find the right area you will see the
larvae stage.(make a note of this as somewhere within 25-50 yards will
be the breeding ground)
Late July you need to go out when its dark to see the female glowing.
There is a reporting website http://www.glowworms.org.uk/
From which I have reported a colony and the more people report the
better overal picture will be seen.


I might go down there then, remind me in July. Are they likely to be found
on allotments? The one I found was in some grass I was clearing, does that
sound likely?

Steve

They can be found in a variety of places ,old railway lines ,chalky
areas,derelict land etc.
I think you may have disturbed it as they generally make their way to
breeding grounds a bit later in the year.(but dont worry as it will
sort itself out)
They will head(late June /July) towards some bushes or any fairly tall
plant and climb to the midway/top and then start glowing in the dark
to attract the males.
You need to go out when its quite dark and you will be amazed at the
brightnest.
Good luck.

'Mike'[_4_] 09-03-2011 05:05 PM

Bug id please
 

"meme" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:07:30 -0000, "shazzbat"
wrote:


"meme" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:45:53 +0000, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-03-09 12:11:21 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-03-09 10:04:52 +0000, "shazzbat"
said:


"gogo" wrote in message
...
On 08/03/2011 21:29, rbel wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:47:34 -0000, shazzbat
wrote:

I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is
black,
or very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone
know
what it is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/


Initial thought is that it is the _larval stage_ of a beetle,
probably
one of the many species of staphylinidae ('staph' or rove beetle)
a
very
good predator of garden pests.


I agree completely. Type "staphylinidae larvae" or "coleoptera
larvae"
in Google image and you'll see many similar beatsies. Very
difficult
to
determine which though..

Thanks for your replies everyone. I've googled images and I think
the
female glowworm is nearest to the one I found.

As long as I haven't suddenly acquired a deadly enemy I'm not that
fussed.

Steve

Aren't glow worms pretty rare now? If you've got them, lucky you.
--


I've never been to the allotment in the dark, so I wouldn't know. None
of the neighbours have reported anything glowing though.

Steve

I've only ever seen them at a friend's house in France. I think the
glow is the light of love - or lust - in mid-summer.
http://www.johntyler.co.uk/gwfacts.htm
Hi all
Glow worms are fairly rare but the lack of reporting and people not
recognising them skewers the numbers that are actually out there.
From about April onwards if you find the right area you will see the
larvae stage.(make a note of this as somewhere within 25-50 yards will
be the breeding ground)
Late July you need to go out when its dark to see the female glowing.
There is a reporting website http://www.glowworms.org.uk/
From which I have reported a colony and the more people report the
better overal picture will be seen.


I might go down there then, remind me in July. Are they likely to be found
on allotments? The one I found was in some grass I was clearing, does that
sound likely?

Steve

They can be found in a variety of places ,old railway lines ,chalky
areas,derelict land etc.
I think you may have disturbed it as they generally make their way to
breeding grounds a bit later in the year.(but dont worry as it will
sort itself out)
They will head(late June /July) towards some bushes or any fairly tall
plant and climb to the midway/top and then start glowing in the dark
to attract the males.
You need to go out when its quite dark and you will be amazed at the
brightnest.
Good luck.



""you will be amazed at the brightness.""

:-((

Not enough to read by ;-) See my previous post ;-)

Mike

--

....................................
Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive
....................................





rbel 09-03-2011 10:13 PM

Bug id please
 
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:04:52 -0000, shazzbat
wrote:


"gogo" wrote in message
...
On 08/03/2011 21:29, rbel wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:47:34 -0000, shazzbat
wrote:

I dug up this handsome specimen this morning. The top of it is black,
or very dark brown. I haven't come across this one before, anyone know
what it is?

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/shazzbat3/


Initial thought is that it is the _larval stage_ of a beetle, probably
one of the many species of staphylinidae ('staph' or rove beetle) a
very
good predator of garden pests.


I agree completely. Type "staphylinidae larvae" or "coleoptera larvae"
in Google image and you'll see many similar beatsies. Very difficult to
determine which though..


Thanks for your replies everyone. I've googled images and I think the
female glowworm is nearest to the one I found.

As long as I haven't suddenly acquired a deadly enemy I'm not that
fussed.



I think that the female glow-worm interpretation is somewhat unlikley. It
is too long and too light in colour for a female glow-worm and does not
have the yellowish red lateral spots of the larval stage. As previously
mentioned the likelihood is that it is one of the 100's of staphylinidae
species larva but both staphs and glow-worm larvae are gardener's friends.


--
rbel


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