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Pam Moore[_2_] 24-04-2011 05:48 PM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
Those of you who bought the offer of "hardy hibiscus" last year, have
any shown any growth. Nothing on mine, just dead stalks.

Pam in Bristol

Dave Hill 24-04-2011 06:44 PM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
On Apr 24, 5:48*pm, Pam Moore wrote:
Those of you who bought the offer of "hardy hibiscus" last year, have
any shown any growth. *Nothing on mine, just dead stalks.

Pam in Bristol


I was thinking the same thing today Pam.

Derek[_6_] 24-04-2011 08:56 PM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:48:01 +0100, Pam Moore
wrote:

Those of you who bought the offer of "hardy hibiscus" last year, have
any shown any growth. Nothing on mine, just dead stalks.


For what it is worth
Quoting a definitions of 'hardy' from the British Fuchsia Society .

'A Variety that has survived five winters anywhere in the British
Isles'

Which leaves those of us north of the watford gap wishing we had had
the winters that the south coast has had!


www.lincolnfuchsiasociety.info

Jake 24-04-2011 08:59 PM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:48:01 +0100, Pam Moore
wrote:

Those of you who bought the offer of "hardy hibiscus" last year, have
any shown any growth. Nothing on mine, just dead stalks.

Pam in Bristol

Mine are composted but if you still have them (a) wait until May
before assuming they are dead and (b) if they are in containers and
you can move those containers into a conservatory where they will get
a bit warmer it will be worth a go. Move them back outside late May.

Bob Hobden 24-04-2011 10:57 PM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 


"Pam Moore" wrote ...

Those of you who bought the offer of "hardy hibiscus" last year, have
any shown any growth. Nothing on mine, just dead stalks.

..........................................

Not any offer but the five chance seedlings I planted out on our allotment
to eventually make a hedge are now coming into leaf despite being moved over
winter. However, our lovely old "Diana", a pure white double, died after
last winter. It started to come into leaf in the spring and then got hit by
a late hard frost which killed all the new growth and although it again
started into growth that didn't develop and the plant never recovered. This
spring I gave the plant a push and it fell over, roots completely rotten.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK


[email protected] 25-04-2011 08:57 AM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
In article ,
Derek wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:48:01 +0100, Pam Moore
wrote:

Those of you who bought the offer of "hardy hibiscus" last year, have
any shown any growth. Nothing on mine, just dead stalks.


For what it is worth
Quoting a definitions of 'hardy' from the British Fuchsia Society .

'A Variety that has survived five winters anywhere in the British
Isles'

Which leaves those of us north of the watford gap wishing we had had
the winters that the south coast has had!


Oh, nuts! Is that society run by retired Whitehall mandarins,
who have all got a second home there?

The only semi-hardy Hibiscus is syriacus, which would have been
marginal in last winter in most places (not all). Cambridge
had only the odd night with -8, and nothing lower, and my plants
(when I had them) survived that and more. But last winter was
also wet (early on) and that kills as readily as cold - I have
lost a common thyme, a golden thyme and a Buddleia davidii,
which I doubt were killed by -8.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Donwill[_2_] 25-04-2011 11:25 AM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
On 24/04/2011 17:48, Pam Moore wrote:
Those of you who bought the offer of "hardy hibiscus" last year, have
any shown any growth. Nothing on mine, just dead stalks.

Pam in Bristol

Having spent the winter in a cold glasshouse, we thought ours was dead,
( -13.5deg C here) we were going to dispose of it.
Tipped it out of it's pot, Lo and behold, on it's roots were fine
white root hairs, clearly still alive!
Re-potted and is now in the conservatory awaiting developments.

Don

Pam Moore[_2_] 25-04-2011 11:53 AM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 10:44:28 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill
wrote:

On Apr 24, 5:48*pm, Pam Moore wrote:
Those of you who bought the offer of "hardy hibiscus" last year, have
any shown any growth. *Nothing on mine, just dead stalks.

Pam in Bristol


I was thinking the same thing today Pam.


I decided to investigate mine this morning; two pots which have stood
by house wall all winter. (no greenhouse) I tipped them out, and found
one with 3 green shoots from below soil level. The other with healthy
looking roots but no shoots. Both have been repotted and put back
where they were. Time will tell. The 3rd I had put in the garden lst
year and there's no sign of it at the moment. Watch this space!!!

Pam in Bristol

Stewart Robert Hinsley 25-04-2011 01:38 PM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
In message , writes
In article ,
Derek wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:48:01 +0100, Pam Moore
wrote:

Those of you who bought the offer of "hardy hibiscus" last year, have
any shown any growth. Nothing on mine, just dead stalks.


For what it is worth
Quoting a definitions of 'hardy' from the British Fuchsia Society .

'A Variety that has survived five winters anywhere in the British
Isles'

Which leaves those of us north of the watford gap wishing we had had
the winters that the south coast has had!


Oh, nuts! Is that society run by retired Whitehall mandarins,
who have all got a second home there?

The only semi-hardy Hibiscus is syriacus, which would have been
marginal in last winter in most places (not all). Cambridge
had only the odd night with -8, and nothing lower, and my plants
(when I had them) survived that and more. But last winter was
also wet (early on) and that kills as readily as cold - I have
lost a common thyme, a golden thyme and a Buddleia davidii,
which I doubt were killed by -8.


My experience with Hibiscus syriacus over the last two winters is that
they were hardy in the ground (one variety got cut back in 2009/10, and
looks as if may have lost some more branches this last winter), but not
in pots.

Hibiscus moscheutos, in its native haunts, handles colder weather than
we get.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

[email protected] 25-04-2011 03:50 PM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
In article ,
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

My experience with Hibiscus syriacus over the last two winters is that
they were hardy in the ground (one variety got cut back in 2009/10, and
looks as if may have lost some more branches this last winter), but not
in pots.


That figures.

Hibiscus moscheutos, in its native haunts, handles colder weather than
we get.


Interesting. There are really quite a lot of plants that are hardy
in those parts, but are not here. But it sounds a bit odd, being
a swamp plant.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Derek[_6_] 25-04-2011 05:19 PM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 08:57:07 +0100 (BST), wrote:

Which leaves those of us north of the watford gap wishing we had had
the winters that the south coast has had!


Oh, nuts! Is that society run by retired Whitehall mandarins,
who have all got a second home there?


Nick Maclaren.



Well to make things clear, it was only referring to Fuchsias, and
weather any of those should be classed as Hardy or not.
www.lincolnfuchsiasociety.info

Dave Hill 25-04-2011 06:37 PM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
On Apr 24, 5:48*pm, Pam Moore wrote:
Those of you who bought the offer of "hardy hibiscus" last year, have
any shown any growth. *Nothing on mine, just dead stalks.

Pam in Bristol


Pam,
Mine were left in siting on top of other pots on a wheel barrow,
they were potted into 3 litr pots, one died last year and the others
made such poor growth that I just dumped them there.
I looked at them a few minutes ago and the 4 surviving plants all have
young shoots 1/4" to 1/2" 3 to 3 to a plant, I
must say I'm amazed.
David

Jake 25-04-2011 09:34 PM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:37:25 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill
wrote:

On Apr 24, 5:48*pm, Pam Moore wrote:
Those of you who bought the offer of "hardy hibiscus" last year, have
any shown any growth. *Nothing on mine, just dead stalks.

Pam in Bristol


Pam,
Mine were left in siting on top of other pots on a wheel barrow,
they were potted into 3 litr pots, one died last year and the others
made such poor growth that I just dumped them there.
I looked at them a few minutes ago and the 4 surviving plants all have
young shoots 1/4" to 1/2" 3 to 3 to a plant, I
must say I'm amazed.
David

I found these were hardy as plants. Trouble is that they grew but
didn't flower. A bit of research confirms that they need "warm
conservatory conditions" through the winter and spring if they are to
flower. Seems they are more likely to flower in urban situations where
temperatures are warmer than in our rural setting. Yes they will grow
but no, they are unlikely to flower. Hence they are in my compost bin
as I don't live in a city.

Dave Hill 25-04-2011 10:34 PM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 
On Apr 25, 9:34*pm, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:37:25 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill

wrote:
On Apr 24, 5:48*pm, Pam Moore wrote:
Those of you who bought the offer of "hardy hibiscus" last year, have
any shown any growth. *Nothing on mine, just dead stalks.


Pam in Bristol


Pam,
Mine *were left in siting on top *of other pots on a wheel barrow,
they were potted into 3 litr pots, one died last year and the others
made such poor growth that I just dumped them there.
I looked at them a few minutes ago and the 4 surviving plants all have
young shoots 1/4" to 1/2" 3 to 3 to a plant, I
must say I'm amazed.
David


I found these were hardy as plants. Trouble is that they grew but
didn't flower. A bit of research confirms that they need "warm
conservatory conditions" through the winter and spring if they are to
flower. Seems they are more likely to flower in urban situations where
temperatures are warmer than in our rural setting. Yes they will grow
but no, they are unlikely to flower. Hence they are in my compost bin
as I don't live in a city.


Oh ye of little faith.

Bob Hobden 25-04-2011 10:46 PM

Last year's "hardy" hibiscus
 


Nick wrote

Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

My experience with Hibiscus syriacus over the last two winters is that
they were hardy in the ground (one variety got cut back in 2009/10, and
looks as if may have lost some more branches this last winter), but not
in pots.


That figures.

Hibiscus moscheutos, in its native haunts, handles colder weather than
we get.


Interesting. There are really quite a lot of plants that are hardy
in those parts, but are not here. But it sounds a bit odd, being
a swamp plant.

.........................

I remember doing some research on those Hibiscus and it wasn't a hybrid of
H. moscheutos as I originally thought, it was something else.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK



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