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Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a
chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I
wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and
if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden
digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't
take no for an answer.
Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing
wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking
OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to
the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and
gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his,
he ran off immediatly.

6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres
and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars.

I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow.

Baz

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"Baz" wrote in message
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Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a
chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I
wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and
if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden
digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't
take no for an answer.
Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing
wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking
OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking
to
the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and
gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his,
he ran off immediatly.

6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed
tyres
and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars.

I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work
tomorrow.

Baz


Well you asked for that didn't you? Couldn't you have used a bit more tact?

Be polite to him, get rid of him THEN call the Police!!!

Mike



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....................................

Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive.

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Sacha wrote in :

On 2011-08-07 08:15:44 +0100, Baz said:

Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding
when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude
asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong
with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I
wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames
cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer.
Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was
stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me
were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was
surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang
them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup
truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly.

6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed
tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars.

I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work
tomorrow.

Baz

What a horrible thing to happen. It's only upside is that the police
have his reg.no. and know he's operating in your area. CCTV camera
installation, perhaps?

There is a neighbour across the road who has a CCTV and the police are
investigating now, but the vehicle is stolen sadly.
This individual is known to the police by description, and his method.
Thats all the police will say.

Where to get tyres is top of my list now. The price is mad as well with
callout charges. Good to have neighbours, we are taking my wheels to a
tyrefitting sevice, but Reikha's car is going to a recovery service and
hopefully the insurance will sort it today. What a bloody mess. It couldn't
come at a worse time financially. With the bodywork damage it is almost
certain both cars will be written off.

While I have been writing this the insurance company have allocated us
courtsey cars and to wait for confirmation of the details. So its wheels
back on. Can it be so easy? I hope so, Reikha has been on the phone all
morning so far.
I wonder how this is going to affect our policies, money wise next renewal.
I dare not think about it. What a mess.

Again while writing, a neighbour has had "foul" put through his letterbox
last night or early this morning.
Disgusting. The police are taking this more seriously now.

Baz

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Sacha wrote in :

On 2011-08-07 09:25:30 +0100, Martin said:

On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:48:38 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-08-07 08:15:44 +0100, Baz said:

Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding
when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy
attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is
nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He
went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the
plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer.
Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was
stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and
me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was
surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang
them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup
truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly.

6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8
slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars.

I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work
tomorrow.

Baz

What a horrible thing to happen. It's only upside is that the
police have his reg.no. and know he's operating in your area. CCTV
camera installation, perhaps?

We have had tyres slashed too. Our new car has no spare wheel just a
sophisticated puncture outfit made for holes less than 3mm. I spotted
this after I had bought the car. The salesman said a survey had shown
that customers didn't need a spare wheel anymore!

!! What utter madness. When I picked up a horseshoe nail in one tyre,
I certainly needed a spare. I've had 3 puncture altogether with this
car, having never had one in my life before!

Both our cars have a spacesaver which is a wheel with a very basic tyre,
just enough to get out of trouble I hear.
I might be wrong but OH(Ford Focus) car has self inflating wheels which as
the name suggests inflates the tyre after a puncture.

Like you Sacha I have never had a puncture, but when needed....

Baz

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On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:23:47 +0100, Mike wrote:

6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8
slashed
tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars.

Well at least you should be able to report it to the Police and they
might be able to use the information against him *if* they ever
manage to get a case that will stick. Unforunantely your case won't
"I woz in me 'van asleep wiv' the missus".

Report it and get a crime number and contact your insurance co. Then
keep a (short) sharp knife with you and if you ever see his pickup
you know what to do... Or even a box of matches. Fold one in half,
take off the valve cap jam in the match, snap off protusion, loosely
replace valve cap. Takes time though... Or a valve insert remover but
the sharp knife across the base of valve stem is qite effective.
Super glue in the locks... I wonder if the avengers handbook is still
out there on the 'net? Lots hints and tips about how "to get ones own
back" when the normal routes fail.

Well you asked for that didn't you? Couldn't you have used a bit more
tact? Be polite to him, get rid of him THEN call the Police!!!

Quite, remember this type of person does not regard the law as any
form of barrier to any thing they want to do. Don't let the law get
in your way either, just don't get caught!

--
Cheers
Dave.

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On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 09:43:39 +0100, Sacha wrote:

We have had tyres slashed too. Our new car has no spare wheel just
a
sophisticated puncture outfit made for holes less than 3mm. I
spotted
this after I had bought the car. The salesman said a survey had
shown
that customers didn't need a spare wheel anymore!

!! What utter madness. When I picked up a horseshoe nail in one tyre, I
certainly needed a spare.

Most customers are townies, shed horseshoe nails are bit rare in
towns... Also most people these days wouldn't even know how to change
a wheel, assuming they know where the spare and/or the jack is
located. Chatting to the AA man who came out to me the other week
(failed injector, so real breakdown) he said that changing wheels
kept him in a job.

I've had 3 puncture altogether with this car, having never had one in my
life before!

That seems a bit odd. All in the same make/model of tyre? Some tread
patterns seem worse at picking things up than others. A soft compound
or less than ideal steel belting may let things in, "budget" tyres?

--
Cheers
Dave.

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Martin wrote in
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 09:43:39 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-08-07 09:25:30 +0100, Martin said:

On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:48:38 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-08-07 08:15:44 +0100, Baz said:

Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some
weeding when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a
dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there
is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He
went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the
plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer.
Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was
stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and
me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was
surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had
rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a
pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off
immediatly.

6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8
slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars.

I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work
tomorrow.

Baz

What a horrible thing to happen. It's only upside is that the
police have his reg.no. and know he's operating in your area. CCTV
camera installation, perhaps?

We have had tyres slashed too. Our new car has no spare wheel just a
sophisticated puncture outfit made for holes less than 3mm. I
spotted this after I had bought the car. The salesman said a survey
had shown that customers didn't need a spare wheel anymore!

!! What utter madness. When I picked up a horseshoe nail in one tyre,
I certainly needed a spare. I've had 3 puncture altogether with this
car, having never had one in my life before!

Ignoring slashed tyres, we have been averaging a puncture a year,
mainly from wood screws which I suspect vandals have screwed into the
tyres. Things have got better since the local yob has found a job.

Let me tell you that this has scared us both half to death here, the
scroat has crept up during the night and caused thousands of pounds worth
of damage and we didn't hear a thing. Imagine if he wanted to do US harm.
I don't know where the money is going to come from but we have to get
some quality recordable security here. Today if I can. The police are
going to talk with us later on today about security.

Baz

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On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 08:45:50 GMT, Baz wrote:

There is a neighbour across the road who has a CCTV and the police are
investigating now, but the vehicle is stolen sadly.

Bother, forget about the revenge. B-(

This individual is known to the police by description, and his method.
Thats all the police will say.

The Police usually do know the local "no goods" very well, trouble is
getting enough evidence to make a case stick to the scum.

With the bodywork damage it is almost certain both cars will be written
off.

For insurance purposes. As this is only cosmetic damage you could buy
the cars from the insurance company if they write them off and get
the damage repaired (or do it yourself). *A lot* less hassle than
having to find two replacement cars at short notice, or dashing out
to get a couple of £500 "good runners" to tide you over until you
find the cars you want.

While I have been writing this the insurance company have allocated us
courtsey cars and to wait for confirmation of the details. So its
wheels back on. Can it be so easy?

Well you may have to wait until the hire car co opens on Monday. If
the cars are going in for body work with the insurers approved place
the body shop will provide the courtsey car.

I wonder how this is going to affect our policies, money wise next
renewal.

I've had "protected no claims" for years so not up to speed on the
current rules. It used to be you got a 10 to 15% discount for each
year without a claim up to around 5 years. If you made a claim you
lost one of those years and the associated discount. As I say I don't
know if that is still how it works. Shopping around for car insurance
each year is normally worth while, compared to just blindly accepting
their renewal offer.

Again while writing, a neighbour has had "foul" put through his
letterbox last night or early this morning. Disgusting. The police are
taking this more seriously now.

Human or animal? I hope they sample it and run DNA test, they might
be able to get a link between him (or his pet) and at least that.

--
Cheers
Dave.

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On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 09:24:27 GMT, Baz wrote:

Let me tell you that this has scared us both half to death here, the
scroat has crept up during the night and caused thousands of pounds
worth of damage and we didn't hear a thing. Imagine if he wanted to do
US harm.

I can understand that but that isn't this scums modus operandi is it?
He might be a big, burly, intimdating bloke who you wouldn't want to
pick a fight with but inside he is as yellow as canary. Hence coming
back in the wee small hours just to mindlessly damage your property.

I don't know where the money is going to come from but we have to get
some quality recordable security here. Today if I can.

Keep that knee still if you can. There are quite complex rules around
CCTV recordings and having them as admisable evidence. Also a system
that can produce images that can be used to positively identify some
one from 20' won't be cheap...

--
Cheers
Dave.

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On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 10:16:20 +0100, Sacha wrote:

People like that should be made to pay up out of wages, social security
payments, or by the sale of their own property, wherever possible. In
his case, he'd probably be beggared!

Quite agree Sacha. This handing out of (our) cash to anyone who asks
almost without question really ought to stop. Yep have 6 months or so
"Job Seekers" after losing ones job, but if you haven't got one by
then if you want any cash you have to "earn" it by sweeping the
streets or other work in/for the community. No sat in front of the
telly swilling lager and chips...

--
Cheers
Dave.

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Sacha wrote in :


It's at times like this that one wishes for a mad, bad and
dangerous-to-know Cousin Giuseppe! But if the police know who this is
and he's continuing to violate others' property, too with luck he'll
be caught. However, that won't solve your financial issues,
unfortunately. People like that should be made to pay up out of
wages, social security payments, or by the sale of their own property,
wherever possible. In his case, he'd probably be beggared! This tiny
village was shaken to its core a few weeks ago when someone ripped a
For Sale sign up, stove in the windscreen of a car and chucked the
sign in a hedge. The owner of the car is in his late seventies,
terribly polite and kind, local verger and has worked on the land all
his life. He loves his car dearly and almost any time you pass his
house, he's out there, dusting it off or polishing it. It was a
mindless piece of utter nastiness by someone who has the brains of a
louse.

I wonder why they picked on an old man?
Because the chances of being caught are remote and even so, this poor old
man would have been a pushover.
Its bloody disgusting.

Yet again OH informs me (while writing)that others have had a bad night
too!
One person left the car door open and the drivers seat is smeared with you
know what.and the steering wheel so the driver could not see it.

This is so sick its not real.

baz

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in
ll.co.uk:

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 09:24:27 GMT, Baz wrote:

Let me tell you that this has scared us both half to death here, the
scroat has crept up during the night and caused thousands of pounds
worth of damage and we didn't hear a thing. Imagine if he wanted to do
US harm.

I can understand that but that isn't this scums modus operandi is it?
He might be a big, burly, intimdating bloke who you wouldn't want to
pick a fight with but inside he is as yellow as canary. Hence coming
back in the wee small hours just to mindlessly damage your property.

I don't know where the money is going to come from but we have to get
some quality recordable security here. Today if I can.

Keep that knee still if you can. There are quite complex rules around
CCTV recordings and having them as admisable evidence. Also a system
that can produce images that can be used to positively identify some
one from 20' won't be cheap...


If we have to re-mortgage we will have to do. We will not sleep properly
from now on otherwise. We are already talking about moving house.
This is a normal reaction, apparently. But we feel unsafe.If someone can do
that kind of frenzied damage, what if he really put his mind to it?

Baz

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in
ll.co.uk:

On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:23:47 +0100, Mike wrote:

6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8
slashed
tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars.

Well at least you should be able to report it to the Police and they
might be able to use the information against him *if* they ever
manage to get a case that will stick. Unforunantely your case won't
"I woz in me 'van asleep wiv' the missus".

Report it and get a crime number and contact your insurance co. Then
keep a (short) sharp knife with you and if you ever see his pickup
you know what to do... Or even a box of matches. Fold one in half,
take off the valve cap jam in the match, snap off protusion, loosely
replace valve cap. Takes time though... Or a valve insert remover but
the sharp knife across the base of valve stem is qite effective.
Super glue in the locks... I wonder if the avengers handbook is still
out there on the 'net? Lots hints and tips about how "to get ones own
back" when the normal routes fail.

Well you asked for that didn't you? Couldn't you have used a bit more
tact? Be polite to him, get rid of him THEN call the Police!!!

Quite, remember this type of person does not regard the law as any
form of barrier to any thing they want to do. Don't let the law get
in your way either, just don't get caught!


Let me tell you that you are worse than the arsehole who committed the
crime against us.

Baz

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On 07/08/2011 10:30, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 08:45:50 GMT, Baz wrote:

There is a neighbour across the road who has a CCTV and the police are
investigating now, but the vehicle is stolen sadly.

Bother, forget about the revenge. B-(

This individual is known to the police by description, and his method.
Thats all the police will say.

The Police usually do know the local "no goods" very well, trouble is
getting enough evidence to make a case stick to the scum.

With the bodywork damage it is almost certain both cars will be written
off.

For insurance purposes. As this is only cosmetic damage you could buy
the cars from the insurance company if they write them off and get
the damage repaired (or do it yourself). *A lot* less hassle than
having to find two replacement cars at short notice, or dashing out
to get a couple of £500 "good runners" to tide you over until you
find the cars you want.

While I have been writing this the insurance company have allocated us
courtsey cars and to wait for confirmation of the details. So its
wheels back on. Can it be so easy?

Well you may have to wait until the hire car co opens on Monday. If
the cars are going in for body work with the insurers approved place
the body shop will provide the courtsey car.

I wonder how this is going to affect our policies, money wise next
renewal.

I've had "protected no claims" for years so not up to speed on the
current rules. It used to be you got a 10 to 15% discount for each
year without a claim up to around 5 years. If you made a claim you
lost one of those years and the associated discount. As I say I don't
know if that is still how it works. Shopping around for car insurance
each year is normally worth while, compared to just blindly accepting
their renewal offer.

Again while writing, a neighbour has had "foul" put through his
letterbox last night or early this morning. Disgusting. The police are
taking this more seriously now.

Human or animal? I hope they sample it and run DNA test, they might
be able to get a link between him (or his pet) and at least that.

I often see (as everyone must) anti-social behaviour, but being a devout
coward I say nothing. If you admonish someone for litter dropping you
will at least get a mouthful of verbal abuse, perhaps worse. I don't
think it worth it. Which is why it is so prevalent I suspect.

--
Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire

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Baz wrote in :

Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding
when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude
asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong
with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I
wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames
cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer.
Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was
stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me
were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was
surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang
them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup
truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly.

6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed
tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars.

I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work
tomorrow.

Baz


This man is now in custody.

Baz