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'Mike'[_4_] 09-08-2011 09:47 AM

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I thought some of you may be interested in
http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/letters/f...res-40024.aspx

Mike


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Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive.

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harryagain 09-08-2011 04:05 PM

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"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
I thought some of you may be interested in
http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/letters/f...res-40024.aspx

Mike


--

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Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive.

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Bonfires are completely unneccessary, all you need is a shredder for garden
waste.



alan.holmes 09-08-2011 09:32 PM

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"harryagain" wrote in message
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"'Mike'" wrote in message
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I thought some of you may be interested in
http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/letters/f...res-40024.aspx

Mike


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Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive.

...................................


Bonfires are completely unneccessary, all you need is a shredder for
garden waste.


You obviously do not have much 'garden waste'!

I have a heap 7 feet high and 10 feet across every year!

Alan








harryagain 09-08-2011 10:49 PM

Bonfires
 

"alan.holmes" wrote in message
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"harryagain" wrote in message
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"'Mike'" wrote in message
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I thought some of you may be interested in
http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/letters/f...res-40024.aspx

Mike


As would mine be if I didn't deal with it regularly.



Christina Websell 10-08-2011 02:59 AM

Bonfires
 

"harryagain" wrote in message
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Bonfires are completely unneccessary, all you need is a shredder for
garden

waste.

If you have a smallish garden, perhaps.




mogga 10-08-2011 02:33 PM

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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 02:59:28 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"harryagain" wrote in message
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Bonfires are completely unneccessary, all you need is a shredder for
garden

waste.

If you have a smallish garden, perhaps.




If you have a big garden then surely you have room for a big pile?
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http://www.voucherfreebies.co.uk

Christina Websell 11-08-2011 11:30 PM

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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 02:59:28 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"harryagain" wrote in message
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Bonfires are completely unneccessary, all you need is a shredder for
garden
waste.

If you have a smallish garden, perhaps.


No fires are allowed where my wife "farms" her allotment.
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Why? Is it close to houses? If so I understand that.



Christina Websell 11-08-2011 11:44 PM

Bonfires
 

"mogga" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 02:59:28 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"harryagain" wrote in message
...
Bonfires are completely unneccessary, all you need is a shredder for
garden
waste.

If you have a smallish garden, perhaps.




If you have a big garden then surely you have room for a big pile?
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Yes, I have 2 big compost heaps aided by my chickens poo, and I have a
shredder but my garden is 1/4 acre and has so many shrubs & trees to be
pruned that I cannot use all the mulch or have it decompose in the compost
heap without it getting out of control and not working.

I defend my right to have a bonfire occasionally, so far down the garden it
does not harm anyone - my neighbour cannot even see it and has no idea I
even had one.







Martin Brown 12-08-2011 09:15 AM

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On 11/08/2011 23:44, Christina Websell wrote:
wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 02:59:28 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
Bonfires are completely unneccessary, all you need is a shredder for
garden
waste.
If you have a smallish garden, perhaps.


If you have a big garden then surely you have room for a big pile?
--


Yes, I have 2 big compost heaps aided by my chickens poo, and I have a
shredder but my garden is 1/4 acre and has so many shrubs& trees to be
pruned that I cannot use all the mulch or have it decompose in the compost
heap without it getting out of control and not working.


That sounds a bit surprising. I have a slightly larger 1/3 acre and find
that provided I cut the grass and put it on top of the last lot of
prunings they will get hot enough to eat all but the thickest stems.

I do burn some thicker stuff but mostly diseased wood and things like
raspberry canes that occur too late in the season to rot down in time
for next year. I reckon most of what it written on the web about
balancing compost heaps is nonsense. It doesn't matter provided that you
add enough material at one time that it gets really hot inside.

I have three heaps which helps provide more time for them to mature. It
would not all fit into two heaps without compromising the quality.

I defend my right to have a bonfire occasionally, so far down the garden it
does not harm anyone - my neighbour cannot even see it and has no idea I
even had one.


So do I. But I reckon you could probably compost more of the thin stuff.
My problem is finding enough places to put the compost on.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Roy Bailey[_2_] 12-08-2011 11:07 AM

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In article , Martin Brown
writes
[snipped]

I do burn some thicker stuff but mostly diseased wood and things like
raspberry canes that occur too late in the season to rot down in time
for next year.


Old raspberry canes make very good small stakes for a variety of
purposes, like thin bamboo.

In our case, as we have a wood fire in winter, they also make good
kindling.

Roy.
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Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.


[email protected] 14-08-2011 10:08 PM

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In article ,
Janet Tweedy wrote:

I would definitely burn ground elder, other pernicious weeds and stuff
like coral spot etc. You need a bit of fuel to do that successfully so
need to build up a bit of dry wood!


I wouldn't, and haven't had them surviving the heap in over 30 years.

Don't believe the nonsense you read about coral spot. Its spores
are ubiquitous, and it almost always attacks wood that has just
been killed by something else. Indeed, it is by no means certain
that it EVER causes the primary damage! You are also more likely
to spread its spores by burning than composting, as infects through
the branches, not the roots, and the fire could well spread them
in the smoke.

Note that I am not objecting to it being burnt, but I am saying
that it will probably do more harm than good. There is nothing
wrong (ecologically or usually environmentally) with bonfires of
clean plant material - I used to do it, don't any longer, and my
reasons are entirely different from those.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Janet Tweedy 14-08-2011 10:08 PM

Bonfires
 
In article , Christina Websell
writes
Yes, I have 2 big compost heaps aided by my chickens poo, and I have a
shredder but my garden is 1/4 acre and has so many shrubs & trees to be
pruned that I cannot use all the mulch or have it decompose in the compost
heap without it getting out of control and not working.

I defend my right to have a bonfire occasionally, so far down the garden it
does not harm anyone - my neighbour cannot even see it and has no idea I
even had one.



I would definitely burn ground elder, other pernicious weeds and stuff
like coral spot etc. You need a bit of fuel to do that successfully so
need to build up a bit of dry wood!
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Laura Corin 14-08-2011 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harryagain (Post 932483)

Bonfires are completely unnecessary, all you need is a shredder for garden
waste.

I really don't think I can shred all the fallen tree debris from the 70mph winds we had back in May. We've cut the usable wood for the stove but we still have stuff to burn.

Laura (three acres, one of trees)

Martin Brown 15-08-2011 08:58 AM

Bonfires
 
On 14/08/2011 22:08, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , Christina Websell
writes
Yes, I have 2 big compost heaps aided by my chickens poo, and I have a
shredder but my garden is 1/4 acre and has so many shrubs & trees to be
pruned that I cannot use all the mulch or have it decompose in the
compost
heap without it getting out of control and not working.

I defend my right to have a bonfire occasionally, so far down the
garden it
does not harm anyone - my neighbour cannot even see it and has no idea I
even had one.



I would definitely burn ground elder, other pernicious weeds and stuff


Most of the pernicious weeds don't last long in full sun on concrete. I
do usually burn them as well just to be certain.

like coral spot etc. You need a bit of fuel to do that successfully so
need to build up a bit of dry wood!


I tend to burn stuff that is diseased wood or too late in the season to
be worth the effort of composting.

I compost leaves separately from normal garden compost.

Regards,
Martin Brown

[email protected] 15-08-2011 12:30 PM

Bonfires
 
In article ,
Janet Tweedy wrote:

I wouldn't, and haven't had them surviving the heap in over 30 years.


Obviously my compost heap isn't warm enough!

Definitely had bindweed survive so always burn it.


Mine is a cold heap! However, it is a big heap - it gets to be a
cube of 4' before it rots down - and I don't put such weeds on it
last thing before moving to a new one. There may be other factors,
too, because I am not disputing that such weeds CAN establish in a
compost heap.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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