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Good evening everyone from a warm South Wales
Managed to get to Longleat despite the directions supplied by Google Maps, their directions were giberish. . After the boat trip we did the safari park by car. Not Bad, but not as good as my safari in East Africa in the mid 60's, but a lot more condensed. Left Longleat and despite Googles directions we eventualy found our stop for the night, Travel Lodge about 7 miles from the nursery I was visiting today,Pan Global Plants. Had to eat in the atached Little Chef, What a farce, wanted a drink with our meal, and they were out of half the brands on their list, "We only get 1 delivery a week, so nothing for another 3 or 4 days. I ordered the pie with Mashed potato, Sorry we are out of mash till the next delivery, same for baked potatoes, just 1 delivery a week. When I asked why? I was told "They don't like us holding to much stock. Very bad night a lot of noise from the room above, then it was like an oven and no way to cool the room down. Add to that the wife,s arm was giving her a lot of pain, so I ended up geting around 2 to 3 hours sleep only. At around 7am I decided to have a nice relaxing bath........ I hadn't realised that in the Handicapped rooms the bath is shallow, raised and just long enough for me to sit in with my legs out straight, or have them half way up the wall to getr my upper body into the water. So no soak. Mrs Taffy went in for a shower and geting out fell and hit her bad arm and her backside, and was badly shaken. Great start to the day. Left to get to the nursery 7 miles away aided yet again by Google maps." turn left from the Hotel, drive 1/2 a mile and at the roundabout take the 3rd turning onto the A391"....UH! the 3rd turning is onto the motorway, and so it went, I just went by instinct and took an extra 3 miles to get to the nursery. Ouch! So much I wanted, stuff I had never seen any where else. We spent just over £200, but have come home with some real treasures, I have 9 Species dahlias from seed collected by Nigel in Mexico a couple of years ago, a couple of species Impatiens, a lovely Abutilon, and a couple of other things. The wife got 2 Monkey Puzzles, not the ordinary one, one is a hybrid from Argentina. |
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On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:44:48 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill
wrote: Good evening everyone from a warm South Wales Managed to get to Longleat despite the directions supplied by Google Maps, their directions were giberish. . After the boat trip we did the safari park by car. Not Bad, but not as good as my safari in East Africa in the mid 60's, but a lot more condensed. Left Longleat and despite Googles directions we eventualy found our stop for the night, Travel Lodge about 7 miles from the nursery I was visiting today,Pan Global Plants. Had to eat in the atached Little Chef, What a farce, wanted a drink with our meal, and they were out of half the brands on their list, "We only get 1 delivery a week, so nothing for another 3 or 4 days. I ordered the pie with Mashed potato, Sorry we are out of mash till the next delivery, same for baked potatoes, just 1 delivery a week. When I asked why? I was told "They don't like us holding to much stock. Very bad night a lot of noise from the room above, then it was like an oven and no way to cool the room down. Add to that the wife,s arm was giving her a lot of pain, so I ended up geting around 2 to 3 hours sleep only. At around 7am I decided to have a nice relaxing bath........ I hadn't realised that in the Handicapped rooms the bath is shallow, raised and just long enough for me to sit in with my legs out straight, or have them half way up the wall to getr my upper body into the water. So no soak. Mrs Taffy went in for a shower and geting out fell and hit her bad arm and her backside, and was badly shaken. Great start to the day. Left to get to the nursery 7 miles away aided yet again by Google maps." turn left from the Hotel, drive 1/2 a mile and at the roundabout take the 3rd turning onto the A391"....UH! the 3rd turning is onto the motorway, and so it went, I just went by instinct and took an extra 3 miles to get to the nursery. Ouch! So much I wanted, stuff I had never seen any where else. We spent just over £200, but have come home with some real treasures, I have 9 Species dahlias from seed collected by Nigel in Mexico a couple of years ago, a couple of species Impatiens, a lovely Abutilon, and a couple of other things. The wife got 2 Monkey Puzzles, not the ordinary one, one is a hybrid from Argentina. And greetings back from another warm part of South Wales (where last evening and this evening have been the same - it's as if someone up above suddenly pressed down heavily on us. Suddenly so humid and oppressive). I dunno, after your experiences of Google Groups I'd have thought that Google Maps was that last thing you'd trust for a long journey! You must be a glutton for punishment. I'll be particularly interested in how the species impatiens perform. Are they non-susceptible to that disease? Must admit that whilst my bedding impatiens have long since bitten the firey dust, the new guineas are still flowering profusely with lots of buds yet to open (maybe). Hope SWMBO recovers from her fall quickly. Cheers, Jake ================================================== ===== URGling from the less wet end of Swansea Bay in between sweeping up leaves by the cubic metre! www.rivendell.org.uk |
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Not quite OT, Plant hunting
"Dave Hill" wrote ((huge snip))
Good evening everyone from a warm South Wales Managed to get to Longleat despite the directions supplied by Google Maps, their directions were giberish. . I have used Google Maps to find places and then see them in "Street View" so I know what to look for when I get there and find that very useful. Their directions are probably OK if you stop and check them every junction but a good SatNav is the way to go. A SatNav that is clear and concise map is better than those all singing things which show a fancy picture and therefor make it difficult to understand at a glance, they also need voice commands. I have used them since they first came out when all they had was arrows etc, and no map, probably easier to see/understand too. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Dave Hill" wrote ((huge snip)) Good evening everyone from a warm South Wales Managed to get to Longleat despite the directions supplied by Google Maps, their directions were giberish. . I have used Google Maps to find places and then see them in "Street View" so I know what to look for when I get there and find that very useful. Their directions are probably OK if you stop and check them every junction but a good SatNav is the way to go. A SatNav that is clear and concise map is better than those all singing things which show a fancy picture and therefor make it difficult to understand at a glance, they also need voice commands. I have used them since they first came out when all they had was arrows etc, and no map, probably easier to see/understand too. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK I used this method a couple of weeks ago for someone on a cruising forum I subscribe to. They were going to be on holiday on the Isle of Wight and wanted to know where the best place would by to view the P&O Liners when they leave, because they have a member of the family sailing. I knew it was going to be Cowes and as I had a Lodge meeting there, I checked out my thoughts, then gave directions as you describe. I gave them a focal point to ping in on and let them 'play' with the google image... Result? 'Thanks for your help Mike' .. :-)) Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive. .................................... |
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On Oct 2, 9:00*am, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Dave Hill" *wrote ((huge snip)) Good evening everyone from a warm South Wales Managed to get to Longleat despite the directions supplied by Google Maps, their directions were giberish. . I have used Google Maps to find places and then see them in "Street View" so I know what to look for when I get there and find that very useful. Their directions are probably OK if you stop and check them every junction but a good SatNav is the way to go. A SatNav that is clear and concise map is better than those all singing things which show a fancy picture and therefor make it difficult to understand at a glance, they also need voice commands. I have used them since they first came out when all they had was arrows etc, and no map, probably easier to see/understand too. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK I normaly use my Road maps, but somehow they had been taken out of the car. Google managed to come up with a route around Bath that no other system did, I think they were using roads that wewre closed 20 or 30 years ago. Sorry, but I am anti Sat nav as I see the results on our lane, when they send artics up a narrow twisty lane with over hanging trees, hard for 2 cars to pass in places, but Sat Nav says OK for Heavy goods. When they get to the turn they have to make it's to tight so they have to go to the end of the lane, turn and come in from the other edirection.. David |
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"Dave Hill" wrote in message ... On Oct 2, 9:00 am, "Bob Hobden" wrote: "Dave Hill" wrote ((huge snip)) Good evening everyone from a warm South Wales Managed to get to Longleat despite the directions supplied by Google Maps, their directions were giberish. . I have used Google Maps to find places and then see them in "Street View" so I know what to look for when I get there and find that very useful. Their directions are probably OK if you stop and check them every junction but a good SatNav is the way to go. A SatNav that is clear and concise map is better than those all singing things which show a fancy picture and therefor make it difficult to understand at a glance, they also need voice commands. I have used them since they first came out when all they had was arrows etc, and no map, probably easier to see/understand too. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK I normaly use my Road maps, but somehow they had been taken out of the car. Google managed to come up with a route around Bath that no other system did, I think they were using roads that wewre closed 20 or 30 years ago. Sorry, but I am anti Sat nav as I see the results on our lane, when they send artics up a narrow twisty lane with over hanging trees, hard for 2 cars to pass in places, but Sat Nav says OK for Heavy goods. When they get to the turn they have to make it's to tight so they have to go to the end of the lane, turn and come in from the other edirection.. David .................................................. .......... I have a photo somewhere of wedding guests on an open top bus trying to get up a country lane with overhanging trees ;-) Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive. .................................... |
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"Sacha" wrote in message
... On 2011-10-02 09:00:21 +0100, "Bob Hobden" said: "Dave Hill" wrote ((huge snip)) Good evening everyone from a warm South Wales Managed to get to Longleat despite the directions supplied by Google Maps, their directions were giberish. . I have used Google Maps to find places and then see them in "Street View" so I know what to look for when I get there and find that very useful. Their directions are probably OK if you stop and check them every junction but a good SatNav is the way to go. A SatNav that is clear and concise map is better than those all singing things which show a fancy picture and therefor make it difficult to understand at a glance, they also need voice commands. I have used them since they first came out when all they had was arrows etc, and no map, probably easier to see/understand too. I bought Ray our second TomTom for a present this year. It's improved on the earlier one we had and we find it extremely useful. Yes, there are times when it can be wrong but we've never had any major hiccup. It seems to find our lanes a bit confusing until it 'gets used' to us going home the way we know! Yes, mine is like that. Always want to take me to the village High Street via a dodgy junction, so I always go the long way. I also managed to confuse it when I last went to Bury St Edmunds. They had ironed out some nasty bends on the A14 since the last time, and I managed to stun it into silence when it thought I was driving across fields :-} -- Kathy |
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On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 01:49:42 -0700, Dave Hill wrote:
On Oct 2, 9:00Â*am, "Bob Hobden" wrote: "Dave Hill" Â*wrote ((huge snip)) Good evening everyone from a warm South Wales Managed to get to Longleat despite the directions supplied by Google Maps, their directions were giberish. . I have used Google Maps to find places and then see them in "Street View" so I know what to look for when I get there and find that very useful. Their directions are probably OK if you stop and check them every junction but a good SatNav is the way to go. A SatNav that is clear and concise map is better than those all singing things which show a fancy picture and therefor make it difficult to understand at a glance, they also need voice commands. I have used them since they first came out when all they had was arrows etc, and no map, probably easier to see/understand too. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK I normaly use my Road maps, but somehow they had been taken out of the car. Google managed to come up with a route around Bath that no other system did, I think they were using roads that wewre closed 20 or 30 years ago. Sorry, but I am anti Sat nav as I see the results on our lane, when they send artics up a narrow twisty lane with over hanging trees, hard for 2 cars to pass in places, but Sat Nav says OK for Heavy goods. When they get to the turn they have to make it's to tight so they have to go to the end of the lane, turn and come in from the other edirection.. I'd bet that the sat-nav doesn't advise it for HGVs. Well not the several thousand pound sat-navs that are designed for HGVs. What is happening is that the drivers are using the hundred quid ones that we buy and using those. The sat-nav doesn't know that it isn't in a car and so sends the truck down totally unsuitable roads. Of course the sat-navs for commercial traffic aren't perfect by a long way either. I'm slightly disappointed that they gated off a nice little rat run I had down through a local ford. I was experienced at driving through a ford and was also capable of looking at the depth gauge before driving through, but lots of sat-navs were sending cars down there and the drivers were blindly following the instructions. Even when the water was only at 18" they'd end up hitting it hard enough to stall with the resultant sitting in the middle waiting to be rescued. Warwick |
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But you can't out all the blame on a satnav. Some of it must go on the driver who puts aside all critical thought when he switches on the satnav. |
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"Dave Hill" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote: "Dave Hill" wrote ((huge snip)) Good evening everyone from a warm South Wales Managed to get to Longleat despite the directions supplied by Google Maps, their directions were giberish. . I have used Google Maps to find places and then see them in "Street View" so I know what to look for when I get there and find that very useful. Their directions are probably OK if you stop and check them every junction but a good SatNav is the way to go. A SatNav that is clear and concise map is better than those all singing things which show a fancy picture and therefor make it difficult to understand at a glance, they also need voice commands. I have used them since they first came out when all they had was arrows etc, and no map, probably easier to see/understand too. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK I normaly use my Road maps, but somehow they had been taken out of the car. Google managed to come up with a route around Bath that no other system did, I think they were using roads that wewre closed 20 or 30 years ago. Sorry, but I am anti Sat nav as I see the results on our lane, when they send artics up a narrow twisty lane with over hanging trees, hard for 2 cars to pass in places, but Sat Nav says OK for Heavy goods. When they get to the turn they have to make it's to tight so they have to go to the end of the lane, turn and come in from the other edirection.. Quite often that sort of thing is that the person using it has entered the criteria "Shortest Route" when it does just that despite the type of roads that will mean trying to drive on. I did that just after I got our first one when I was the other side of S. London, ended up driving through Industrial estates and council estates just to save a few yards. Never again. Our new car has an "Efficient Route" and that works a treat and takes us along some nice roads we haven't used before, sometimes across country instead of motorways, at little impact on time. It also has the ability to work out the route on my PC at home and send it direct to the car, or via Flash Drive, for saving for future use which is a good improvement especially when doing a long journey, like through France. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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On Oct 2, 2:15*pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Dave Hill" *wrote "Bob Hobden" wrote: "Dave Hill" *wrote ((huge snip)) Good evening everyone from a warm South Wales Managed to get to Longleat despite the directions supplied by Google Maps, their directions were giberish. . I have used Google Maps to find places and then see them in "Street View" so I know what to look for when I get there and find that very useful. Their directions are probably OK if you stop and check them every junction but a good SatNav is the way to go. A SatNav that is clear and concise map is better than those all singing things which show a fancy picture and therefor make it difficult to understand at a glance, they also need voice commands. I have used them since they first came out when all they had was arrows etc, and no map, probably easier to see/understand too. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK I normaly use my Road maps, but somehow they had been taken out of the car. Google managed to come up with a route around Bath that no other system did, I think they were using roads that wewre closed 20 or 30 years ago. Sorry, but I am anti Sat nav as I see the results on our lane, when they send artics up a narrow twisty lane with over hanging trees, hard for 2 cars to pass in places, but Sat Nav says OK for Heavy goods. When they get to the turn they have to make it's to tight so they have to go to the end of the lane, turn and come in from the other edirection.. Quite often that sort of thing is that the person using it has entered the criteria "Shortest Route" when it does just that despite the type of roads that will mean trying to drive on. I did that just after I got our first one when I was the other side of S. London, ended up driving through Industrial estates and council estates just to save a few yards. Never again. Our new car has an "Efficient Route" and that works a treat and takes us along some nice roads we haven't used before, sometimes across country instead of motorways, at little impact on time. It also has the ability to work out the route on my PC at home and send it direct to the car, or via Flash Drive, for saving for future use which is a good improvement especially when doing a long journey, like through France. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - When we can get a satnav like this then I'll get one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_yCv95E5lY David |
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"kay" wrote in message ... Kathy;938307 Wrote: Yes, mine is like that. Always want to take me to the village High Street via a dodgy junction, so I always go the long way. I also managed to confuse it when I last went to Bury St Edmunds. They had ironed out some nasty bends on the A14 since the last time, and I managed to stun it into silence when it thought I was driving across fields :-} My son was delighted when a sat nav tried to persuade them to drive through a reservoir. But you can't out all the blame on a satnav. Some of it must go on the driver who puts aside all critical thought when he switches on the satnav. -- kay I was driving to Bournemouth a couple of weeks or so ago, and according to my sat nav, I was driving parallel to the road by about 100 yard to the right, across a field!! Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive. .................................... |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 19:09:48 +0100, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote:
On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:44:48 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill wrote: Good evening everyone from a warm South Wales Managed to get to Longleat despite the directions supplied by Google Maps, their directions were giberish. . After the boat trip we did the safari park by car. Not Bad, but not as good as my safari in East Africa in the mid 60's, but a lot more condensed. Left Longleat and despite Googles directions we eventualy found our stop for the night, Travel Lodge about 7 miles from the nursery I was visiting today,Pan Global Plants. Had to eat in the atached Little Chef, What a farce, wanted a drink with our meal, and they were out of half the brands on their list, "We only get 1 delivery a week, so nothing for another 3 or 4 days. I ordered the pie with Mashed potato, Sorry we are out of mash till the next delivery, same for baked potatoes, just 1 delivery a week. When I asked why? I was told "They don't like us holding to much stock. Very bad night a lot of noise from the room above, then it was like an oven and no way to cool the room down. Add to that the wife,s arm was giving her a lot of pain, so I ended up geting around 2 to 3 hours sleep only. At around 7am I decided to have a nice relaxing bath........ I hadn't realised that in the Handicapped rooms the bath is shallow, raised and just long enough for me to sit in with my legs out straight, or have them half way up the wall to getr my upper body into the water. So no soak. Mrs Taffy went in for a shower and geting out fell and hit her bad arm and her backside, and was badly shaken. Great start to the day. Left to get to the nursery 7 miles away aided yet again by Google maps." turn left from the Hotel, drive 1/2 a mile and at the roundabout take the 3rd turning onto the A391"....UH! the 3rd turning is onto the motorway, and so it went, I just went by instinct and took an extra 3 miles to get to the nursery. Ouch! So much I wanted, stuff I had never seen any where else. We spent just over £200, but have come home with some real treasures, I have 9 Species dahlias from seed collected by Nigel in Mexico a couple of years ago, a couple of species Impatiens, a lovely Abutilon, and a couple of other things. The wife got 2 Monkey Puzzles, not the ordinary one, one is a hybrid from Argentina. And greetings back from another warm part of South Wales (where last evening and this evening have been the same - it's as if someone up above suddenly pressed down heavily on us. Suddenly so humid and oppressive). I dunno, after your experiences of Google Groups I'd have thought that Google Maps was that last thing you'd trust for a long journey! You must be a glutton for punishment. I'll be particularly interested in how the species impatiens perform. Are they non-susceptible to that disease? Must admit that whilst my bedding impatiens have long since bitten the firey dust, the new guineas are still flowering profusely with lots of buds yet to open (maybe). Hope SWMBO recovers from her fall quickly. Cheers, Jake ================================================= ====== URGling from the less wet end of Swansea Bay in between sweeping up leaves by the cubic metre! www.rivendell.org.uk Dave your story sounded like a nightmare until you reached the nursery. Glad the trip was worth it. Jake ditto the impatiens, My New Guinea hybrids are doing fine. Pam in Bristol |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2011-10-02 10:02:58 +0100, "Kathy" said: "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2011-10-02 09:00:21 +0100, "Bob Hobden" said: "Dave Hill" wrote ((huge snip)) Good evening everyone from a warm South Wales Managed to get to Longleat despite the directions supplied by Google Maps, their directions were giberish. . I have used Google Maps to find places and then see them in "Street View" so I know what to look for when I get there and find that very useful. Their directions are probably OK if you stop and check them every junction but a good SatNav is the way to go. A SatNav that is clear and concise map is better than those all singing things which show a fancy picture and therefor make it difficult to understand at a glance, they also need voice commands. I have used them since they first came out when all they had was arrows etc, and no map, probably easier to see/understand too. I bought Ray our second TomTom for a present this year. It's improved on the earlier one we had and we find it extremely useful. Yes, there are times when it can be wrong but we've never had any major hiccup. It seems to find our lanes a bit confusing until it 'gets used' to us going home the way we know! Yes, mine is like that. Always want to take me to the village High Street via a dodgy junction, so I always go the long way. I also managed to confuse it when I last went to Bury St Edmunds. They had ironed out some nasty bends on the A14 since the last time, and I managed to stun it into silence when it thought I was driving across fields :-} It always makes me laugh when that rather tetchy voice says "Turn around when possible". I swear she's getting crosser each time she says it! THe old one had a strange glitch in it which, when we were driving to Westbuy on Trym, got us to go off the motorway, right round the layout at the top and back onto the motorway in our original direction! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon When my wife is in the car with me my sat-nav can't get a word in :-) I wonder if it knows where Devon is - I'll be in Torquay in early December. Bill Bill |
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