"Martin Brown" wrote
These days it is an EU licensed horticultural crop c. savita var
savita genetically stripped of its ability to make THC and related
components and grown for the hemp fibre which has had a resurgence
lately.

They were trialling a variety of hemp as a possible future crop on a
farm my hubby went to once. I don't know how successful it turned out to
be, but I remember the farmer was amused that a few of his plants got
'liberated' one night by hopeful thieves. He reckoned they'd have needed
to smoke a couple of fields' worth before getting any sort of high.

You often find houses, fields or hamlets still called Hemplands around
here; I believe hemp production for rope and cloth was quite a thriving
industry in East Anglia once upon a time.

Flax is also making something of a come-back.

Hope it makes a comeback where I can see it from the kitchen window.
Acres of flax and poppies and a bit of white mayweed all blooming
together - beautiful.

--
Sue

I've smoked lots of pot and know people who have smoked lots of it and from my experience it IS NOT physically addictive but it DOES screw peoples brains up. Cannabis psychosis has been a recognised side effect for years and just because it hasn't effected you YET doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Not everyone is affected admittedy but alot especially with the strong skunk strains that you people smoke these days, when you know people who have jumped out infront of trains or off large buildings maybe your opinion will change until then I recommend backing up your "accademic" study with some hard evidence from some well respected medical journals not peoples opionions on chat forums it looks better in the bibliography!

7cm Square Pots | Pot Tastic

On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 12:36:06 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-10-04 00:11:28 +0100, jamie smith
said:


Hey everyone, another thread from me, I bet you are all getting bored of
these threads, anyway I would really like your opinion on growing
cannabis and using cannabis. Thank you for reading my boring threads

My opinion is that you're a troll. Possibly a troll who already knows
too much about the effects of cannabis from personal experience.


I haven't seen any comments on the use of the plants as a food source,
ie seeds and oil and as bird food etc. Perhaps the OP was not after
this sort of information !!

A couple of months ago there was a large field of hemp growing I would
assume for the above reasons near to where i live, and on a HFW River
Cottage program they featured Hemp oil/seed recipes.

In message , Martin
writes
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 08:43:31 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

"jamie smith" wrote ...


Hey everyone, another thread from me, I bet you are all getting bored of
these threads, anyway I would really like your opinion on growing
cannabis and using cannabis. Thank you for reading my boring threads


Growing it is illegal, growing it is not difficult indeed I've seen it grow
to a decent height from bird seed out on our old allotment site.
I've read that it is believed to be a causal agent in some schizophrenia
cases especially when used from a young age.

Only when used in very large quantities.

Whilst I can understand it
being used by some seriously ill people, and those abroad in extreme poverty
with a dreadful life, why anyone in this country who is well would want to
cloud their brain defeats me. Life itself is too powerful a drug.

Better start by trying to understand why people drink large quantities
of alcohol, which has far more harmful effects than cannabis.
It has different effects, whether they are all worse or not is
debatable. But as they say two wrongs don't make a right.
--
hugh

On 04/10/2011 17:32, kay wrote:
jamie smith;938632 Wrote:
I wasnt talking about ilegal activity

You were talking about growing and using it; both are illegal in the UK

Growing hemp and even c. savita var indica in the UK is legal if you
have a license to do so. The poisons garden in Alnwick Castle has such a
license and several far more potent drug and toxic plants in secure
cultivation. Their cocaine plant had died when I last visited and I
found the smell of henbane most unpleasant.

I expect you can find some hemp fields in the south of England grown for
the fibre if you look hard enough. It isn't really warm enough in UK
summers for C4 plant metabolism to thrive so it is a poor crop.


and I was just doing a little research on peoples opinion on cannabis
for my extended research A Level in collage im doing this as part of my
course work and cannabis does not mess up with your brain its ILEGAL
because its addictive it cant actually cause any physical harm apart
from inhaling smoke and one reason why this wont be legal is because the
industrys will lose out on to much money so its all about money because
the goverment are greedy. I understand how they didnt teach this in
schools 40 - 50 years ago kay so im sorry you didnt get to now the
truth. maybe pay for a collage if you arnt scared of looking 60 years
older than everyone

You are factually incorrect on several counts.

Cannabis most definitely does mess with your brain and perception but it
is considerably less addictive than either alcohol or tobacco
(nicotine). You would never get a license to sell either of the latter
two compounds to the public if they were newly discovered today.

Cannabis smoke is more noxious because of high tar content, but then you
do not necessarily have to smoke it. Nicotine addicts smoking tobacco
shorten their lifespans considerably - it is highly likely that smoking
cannabis will be even worse in this respect.

A few people are unduly susceptible to its influence and go off the
rails. There doesn't seem to be enough research to quantify this risk.
The problem is compounded by new designer GM skunk varieties which seem
to be causing more psychotic problems according to researchers.

The head of the expert committee on abuse of drugs got into serious
trouble with the UK government for explaining the relative risks of
drugs and alcohol somewhat too clearly. See for example:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...rugsandalcohol

Now they have appointed a bunch of yes men to do their bidding. The
reason it won't be made legal is mostly due to puritanical Americans and
their perpetual "War on Drugs".

The original reason for banning intoxicating drugs was that there was no
way to detect them in vivo with the trace amounts involved. Modern
ultratrace analytical chemistry can now do this with relative ease.
Harder than a quick breath test but definitely possible.

Oh and learn to spell college. Unless that is you are assembling a cut
fabric picture to illustrate public views on cannabis. And if you are be
sure to use hemp for the base material.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collage#Early_precedents

You know nothing about my opinions, my age, my use or non-usage of, or
my knowledge about, drugs.

You say you are doing research; if you are genuinely researching into
people's opinions on cannabis use and cultivation, then insulting people
whose opinions do not match your own will not encourage expression of
those opinions and thus will bias your results. Perhaps you should pay
for, or otherwise acquire, a grounding in scientific research methods?

I can't see much point in banning it to be honest. Far better to have it
sold legitimately and get a tax revenue stream from it than hand all of
the proceeds to organised crime as happens at present.

I would be in favour of banning tobacco, but that isn't going to happen
because the tobacco lobby is far too powerful and the tax is lucrative.
And the nicotine addicts would all get very upset.

Regards,
Martin Brown

and I was just doing a little research on peoples opinion on cannabis
for my extended research A Level in collage im doing this as part of my
course work and cannabis does not mess up with your brain its ILEGAL
because its addictive it cant actually cause any physical harm apart...

......from punctuation blindness?

from inhaling smoke and one reason why this wont be legal is because the
industrys will lose out on to much money so its all about money because
the goverment are greedy. I understand how they didnt teach this in
schools 40 - 50 years ago kay so im sorry you didnt get to now the
truth. maybe pay for a collage if you arnt scared of looking 60 years
older than everyone

he sold his spellcheck to buy drugs?
--
Mike... . . . .

On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:13:53 +0100, Sacha wrote:

You have to wonder which 'collage' he's at that he can't even spell the
word, or several others and has no knowledge of basic punctuation or
grammar.

He's actually worse than me! (Mind you, I agree with him we should
legalise drugs, prohibition didn't work in the states for booze, it
hasn't worked with other drugs anywhere, same result, enriched
organised crime and funding for dodgy Afghans. 2-0, both own goals. It
will take another 50 years before people wise up).
--
Mike... . . . .

In message , Mike.....
writes
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:13:53 +0100, Sacha wrote:

You have to wonder which 'collage' he's at that he can't even spell the
word, or several others and has no knowledge of basic punctuation or
grammar.

He's actually worse than me! (Mind you, I agree with him we should
legalise drugs, prohibition didn't work in the states for booze, it
hasn't worked with other drugs anywhere, same result, enriched
organised crime and funding for dodgy Afghans. 2-0, both own goals. It
will take another 50 years before people wise up).
ISTR reading that one of the differences between cannabis and alcohol is
the time taken to clear the brain after the intake, the chemicals
attached to the brain from alcohol going much more quickly. So with any
regular intake of cannabis your brain is permanently inhibited. Perhaps
this might explain the lethargic work shy attitude of many of our young
people on a Monday morning.

--
hugh

"hugh" ] wrote in message
...
In message , Mike.....
writes
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:13:53 +0100, Sacha wrote:

You have to wonder which 'collage' he's at that he can't even spell the
word, or several others and has no knowledge of basic punctuation or
grammar.

He's actually worse than me! (Mind you, I agree with him we should
legalise drugs, prohibition didn't work in the states for booze, it
hasn't worked with other drugs anywhere, same result, enriched
organised crime and funding for dodgy Afghans. 2-0, both own goals. It
will take another 50 years before people wise up).
ISTR reading that one of the differences between cannabis and alcohol is
the time taken to clear the brain after the intake, the chemicals attached
to the brain from alcohol going much more quickly. So with any regular
intake of cannabis your brain is permanently inhibited. Perhaps this might
explain the lethargic work shy attitude of many of our young people on a
Monday morning.

--
hugh

and Tuesday

and Wednesday

and Thursday

and Friday

HOWEVER, we must not forget those youngsters who are not work shy, but are
still tarred with the same brush as 'Youth of Today'


Mike
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 08:43:31 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

why anyone in this country who is well would want to
cloud their brain defeats me.

I think there's quite a lot of propaganda about. People I know who use
it don't seem to have clouded brains or schizophrenia, i think they
use it for the pleasant relaxing effect. Can't speak from first hand
because being a life long non smoker its impossible to try smoking it.
--
Mike... . . . .

On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 16:32:57 +0000, kay
wrote:

You were talking about growing and using it; both are illegal in the UK

is it beyond you to discuss things that are illegal? Homosexuality
used to be illegal, now it isn't. Would you have objected to
discussing the rights and wrongs of that when it was illegal?
Would you object to David Cameron discussing raising the speed limit
to a currently illegal 80? Would you have object to discussing
apartheid in south Africa?
--
Mike... . . . .

"Mike.. . . ." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 16:32:57 +0000, kay
wrote:

You were talking about growing and using it; both are illegal in the UK

is it beyond you to discuss things that are illegal? Homosexuality
used to be illegal, now it isn't. Would you have objected to
discussing the rights and wrongs of that when it was illegal?
Would you object to David Cameron discussing raising the speed limit
to a currently illegal 80? Would you have object to discussing
apartheid in south Africa?
--
Mike... . . . .


Mike, you are trying to make a statement to those who are set in their ways.
Look at the flak I get from those on this very newsgroup/forum. People who
are set in a ""Generalisation and Stereotyping based on unsubstantiated hear
say"" way.

Once any vile thoughts are instilled into their brain, NOTHING, repeat
NOTHING is going to shift them ;-((

Think about it. However, :-)))))))))))))) THEY are the ""ODD"" ones out.

(Now watch the flak they send up over this posting. They just CANNOT resist
having a go at me :-))))))))))))

Mike

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Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive.

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On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 16:34:08 +0100, Mike.. . . .
wrote:

On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 08:43:31 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

why anyone in this country who is well would want to
cloud their brain defeats me.

I think there's quite a lot of propaganda about. People I know who use
it don't seem to have clouded brains or schizophrenia, i think they
use it for the pleasant relaxing effect. Can't speak from first hand
because being a life long non smoker its impossible to try smoking it.

Then eat a bit - not too much. It works just as well but takes longer.
Steve

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In article ,
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

Can you think of a country that has changed its laws to make drugs
legal?

Yes, lots. But I am very sick of this off-topic thread and have
no desire to see it continue.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:17:33 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:

is it beyond you to discuss things that are illegal? Homosexuality
used to be illegal, now it isn't. Would you have objected to
discussing the rights and wrongs of that when it was illegal?
Would you object to David Cameron discussing raising the speed limit
to a currently illegal 80? Would you have object to discussing
apartheid in south Africa?

Mike, you are trying to make a statement to those who are set in their ways.
Look at the flak I get from those on this very newsgroup/forum. People who
are set in a ""Generalisation and Stereotyping based on unsubstantiated hear
say"" way.

I wouldn't know because I only pop in now and again to ask a question.
Legalising drugs is I think an important way forward for the world. It
has to happen, maybe one more person here starts thinking - one day it
will be a majority, same way it went for other issues where the law
had got it wrong.
--
Mike... . . . .