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john east 18-01-2012 10:33 AM

Big olive trees in small pots
 
Just below warren street tube station, by about fifty yards on the west side
of Tottenham court road, is a hotel entrance with two olive trees, one
either side of the entrance.

The are each in clay pots about two foot six or so high and three feet wide.
The trunk of the tree is nine or ten inches in diameter and the original
height of the trees have been cut down to about seven feet high.

How would that have been done? Getting what would have once been a *huge*
tree into such a pot? Is it that the spread of roots on an olive tree is
very small, so they could have dug one up and trimmed the roots and then got
it in that size of pot? I would have thought trimming the roots to that
extent on a normal tree would result in its' death.

Or would it have been grown in such a small pot, but then i find it amazing
that such a big tree would have grown in one successfully?



'Mike'[_4_] 18-01-2012 10:56 AM

Big olive trees in small pots
 


"john east" wrote in message
...
Just below warren street tube station, by about fifty yards on the west
side of Tottenham court road, is a hotel entrance with two olive trees,
one either side of the entrance.

The are each in clay pots about two foot six or so high and three feet
wide. The trunk of the tree is nine or ten inches in diameter and the
original height of the trees have been cut down to about seven feet high.

How would that have been done? Getting what would have once been a *huge*
tree into such a pot? Is it that the spread of roots on an olive tree is
very small, so they could have dug one up and trimmed the roots and then
got it in that size of pot? I would have thought trimming the roots to
that extent on a normal tree would result in its' death.

Or would it have been grown in such a small pot, but then i find it
amazing that such a big tree would have grown in one successfully?


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David WE Roberts[_4_] 18-01-2012 11:20 AM

Big olive trees in small pots
 

"john east" wrote in message
...
Just below warren street tube station, by about fifty yards on the west
side of Tottenham court road, is a hotel entrance with two olive trees,
one either side of the entrance.

The are each in clay pots about two foot six or so high and three feet
wide. The trunk of the tree is nine or ten inches in diameter and the
original height of the trees have been cut down to about seven feet high.

How would that have been done? Getting what would have once been a *huge*
tree into such a pot? Is it that the spread of roots on an olive tree is
very small, so they could have dug one up and trimmed the roots and then
got it in that size of pot? I would have thought trimming the roots to
that extent on a normal tree would result in its' death.

Or would it have been grown in such a small pot, but then i find it
amazing that such a big tree would have grown in one successfully?



I would vote for it being grown in the pot.
Think of it as a very large Bonsai.
The dimensions you give - 36" diameter by 30" high - are not small for a
pot.
Limiting the tree to 7 foot high will also limit the demand on the roots.
It may have been kept to a similar height for most of its life.

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No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

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Dave Hill 18-01-2012 11:38 AM

Big olive trees in small pots
 
On Jan 18, 11:20*am, "David WE Roberts" wrote:
"john east" wrote in message

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Just below warren street tube station, by about fifty yards on the west
side of Tottenham court road, is a hotel entrance with two olive trees,
one either side of the entrance.


The are each in clay pots about two foot six or so high and three feet
wide. The trunk of the tree is nine or ten inches in diameter and the
original height of the trees have been cut down to about seven feet high.


How would that have been done? *Getting what would have once been a *huge*
tree into such a pot? * Is it that the spread of roots on an olive tree is
very small, so they could have dug one up and trimmed the roots and then
got it in that size of pot? *I would have thought trimming the roots to
that extent on a normal tree would result in its' death.


Or would it have been grown in such a small pot, but then i find it
amazing that such a big tree would have grown in one successfully?


I would vote for it being grown in the pot.
Think of it as a very large Bonsai.
The dimensions you give - 36" diameter by 30" high - are not small for a
pot.
Limiting the tree to 7 foot high will also limit the demand on the roots.
It may have been kept to a similar height for most of its life.

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

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Old olive trees move well given the right conditions, but they are for
sale as you described, see http://www.villaggioverde.co.uk/
David

stuart noble 18-01-2012 11:40 AM

Big olive trees in small pots
 
On 18/01/2012 11:20, David WE Roberts wrote:

"john east" wrote in message
...
Just below warren street tube station, by about fifty yards on the
west side of Tottenham court road, is a hotel entrance with two olive
trees, one either side of the entrance.

The are each in clay pots about two foot six or so high and three feet
wide. The trunk of the tree is nine or ten inches in diameter and the
original height of the trees have been cut down to about seven feet high.

How would that have been done? Getting what would have once been a
*huge* tree into such a pot? Is it that the spread of roots on an
olive tree is very small, so they could have dug one up and trimmed
the roots and then got it in that size of pot? I would have thought
trimming the roots to that extent on a normal tree would result in
its' death.

Or would it have been grown in such a small pot, but then i find it
amazing that such a big tree would have grown in one successfully?



I would vote for it being grown in the pot.
Think of it as a very large Bonsai.
The dimensions you give - 36" diameter by 30" high - are not small for a
pot.
Limiting the tree to 7 foot high will also limit the demand on the roots.
It may have been kept to a similar height for most of its life.


Nope, can't see them on Google Street View. They must be new.

Jeff Layman[_2_] 18-01-2012 04:13 PM

Big olive trees in small pots
 
On 18/01/2012 10:33, john east wrote:
Just below warren street tube station, by about fifty yards on the west side
of Tottenham court road, is a hotel entrance with two olive trees, one
either side of the entrance.

The are each in clay pots about two foot six or so high and three feet wide.
The trunk of the tree is nine or ten inches in diameter and the original
height of the trees have been cut down to about seven feet high.

How would that have been done? Getting what would have once been a *huge*
tree into such a pot? Is it that the spread of roots on an olive tree is
very small, so they could have dug one up and trimmed the roots and then got
it in that size of pot? I would have thought trimming the roots to that
extent on a normal tree would result in its' death.

Or would it have been grown in such a small pot, but then i find it amazing
that such a big tree would have grown in one successfully?


See bottom RH picture he
http://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/olives.html

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Jeff

Janet 18-01-2012 05:04 PM

Big olive trees in small pots
 
In article , lid
says...

Or would it have been grown in such a small pot, but then i find it amazing
that such a big tree would have grown in one successfully?


See bottom RH picture he
http://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/olives.html

and an interesting bit of that link which says

"The mature olive trees are often harvested from old olive tree groves
which are being removed to make way for more profitable varieties, as
global warming continues to affect southern and central Europe."

Janet.




Pam Moore[_2_] 19-01-2012 11:52 AM

Big olive trees in small pots
 
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:20:13 -0000, "David WE Roberts"
wrote:


"john east" wrote in message
...
Just below warren street tube station, by about fifty yards on the west
side of Tottenham court road, is a hotel entrance with two olive trees,
one either side of the entrance.

The are each in clay pots about two foot six or so high and three feet
wide. The trunk of the tree is nine or ten inches in diameter and the
original height of the trees have been cut down to about seven feet high.

How would that have been done? Getting what would have once been a *huge*
tree into such a pot? Is it that the spread of roots on an olive tree is
very small, so they could have dug one up and trimmed the roots and then
got it in that size of pot? I would have thought trimming the roots to
that extent on a normal tree would result in its' death.

Or would it have been grown in such a small pot, but then i find it
amazing that such a big tree would have grown in one successfully?



I would vote for it being grown in the pot.
Think of it as a very large Bonsai.
The dimensions you give - 36" diameter by 30" high - are not small for a
pot.
Limiting the tree to 7 foot high will also limit the demand on the roots.
It may have been kept to a similar height for most of its life.


Don't knoe about olives, but small bonsai ("potensai") are often
planted in the ground, with a tile or something similar a short way
below, to stop tap roots going down. Then they are fed, watered and
trimmed for a few years to increase growth and girth. Then they are
lifted, root-pruned, top-pruned and potted ready for training.
I have seen olives with huge trunks in pots at the Eden project.
Somebody told me they are lifted from sites being cleared for building
etc. If they grow on shallow, stony soil, they may not make so much
root growth and take to being potted.

Pam in Bristol


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