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Roger Tonkin[_2_] 10-04-2012 08:24 PM

Rhubarb
 
My rhubarb has come on very well this year (uncovered and not forced).
So much so that I am tempted to pick some of the larger stalks (9-12
inches long). I've never picked this early before, usually starting
early-mid May, so I am wondering if it is wise to pick this early,
especially as ground frost is still forecast occassionally this week.

Main reason for the impatience is that we will be away for a while from
mid-May and I dont want to miss the wonderfull flavour of the early
stalks!


--
Roger T

700 ft up in Mid-Wales

Janet 10-04-2012 08:45 PM

Rhubarb
 
In article ,
says...

My rhubarb has come on very well this year (uncovered and not forced).
So much so that I am tempted to pick some of the larger stalks (9-12
inches long). I've never picked this early before, usually starting
early-mid May, so I am wondering if it is wise to pick this early,
especially as ground frost is still forecast occassionally this week.


Why not? Logically it will do less harm to the plant than picking off
two foot stems with huge leaves on.

We always start picking ours at 6 inches; it's very sweet and tender at
that stage. We've been picking for three weeks :-)

Janet

Dave Hill 10-04-2012 09:13 PM

Rhubarb
 
On Apr 10, 8:45*pm, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...



My rhubarb has come on very well this year (uncovered and not forced).
So much so that I am tempted to pick some of the larger stalks (9-12
inches long). I've never picked this early before, usually starting
early-mid May, so I am wondering if it is wise to pick this early,
especially as ground frost is still forecast occassionally this week.


* Why not? Logically it will do less harm to the plant than picking off
two foot stems with huge leaves on.

* We always start picking ours at 6 inches; it's very sweet and tender at
that stage. We've been picking for three weeks :-)

* *Janet



In my youth we always put a bucket over a couple of crowns to get some
early rhubarb

David Rance 11-04-2012 03:22 PM

Rhubarb
 
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Roger Tonkin wrote:

My rhubarb has come on very well this year (uncovered and not forced).
So much so that I am tempted to pick some of the larger stalks (9-12
inches long). I've never picked this early before, usually starting
early-mid May, so I am wondering if it is wise to pick this early,
especially as ground frost is still forecast occassionally this week.


I pulled my first rhubarb this year yesterday and lovely it was, too.

Incidentally, I grew some rhubarb from seed last year. This year one of
the plants is very precocious and was throwing up a seed head! needless
to say I got rid of it.

David

--
David Rance
writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France

Alan Holmes[_5_] 11-04-2012 06:25 PM

Rhubarb
 

"Dave Hill" wrote in message
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On Apr 10, 8:45 pm, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...



My rhubarb has come on very well this year (uncovered and not forced).
So much so that I am tempted to pick some of the larger stalks (9-12
inches long). I've never picked this early before, usually starting
early-mid May, so I am wondering if it is wise to pick this early,
especially as ground frost is still forecast occassionally this week.


Why not? Logically it will do less harm to the plant than picking off
two foot stems with huge leaves on.

We always start picking ours at 6 inches; it's very sweet and tender at
that stage. We've been picking for three weeks :-)

Janet



In my youth we always put a bucket over a couple of crowns to get some
early rhubarb

For the first time ever that is just what I have done!

Alan



Ian B[_3_] 13-04-2012 01:57 PM

Rhubarb
 
Alan Holmes wrote:
"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
On Apr 10, 8:45 pm, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...



My rhubarb has come on very well this year (uncovered and not
forced). So much so that I am tempted to pick some of the larger
stalks (9-12 inches long). I've never picked this early before,
usually starting early-mid May, so I am wondering if it is wise to
pick this early, especially as ground frost is still forecast
occassionally this week.


Why not? Logically it will do less harm to the plant than picking off
two foot stems with huge leaves on.

We always start picking ours at 6 inches; it's very sweet and tender
at that stage. We've been picking for three weeks :-)

Janet



In my youth we always put a bucket over a couple of crowns to get some
early rhubarb

For the first time ever that is just what I have done!

Alan


I harvested my first rhubarb (ever!) yesterday and made a delicious little
crumble. What I'm wondering is, how much is it safe to pick before it starts
weakening and damaging the plant? I don't want to overdo it.


Ian



Roger Tonkin[_2_] 13-04-2012 05:13 PM

Rhubarb
 
In article ,
lid says...

Alan Holmes wrote:
"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
On Apr 10, 8:45 pm, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...



My rhubarb has come on very well this year (uncovered and not
forced). So much so that I am tempted to pick some of the larger
stalks (9-12 inches long). I've never picked this early before,
usually starting early-mid May, so I am wondering if it is wise to
pick this early, especially as ground frost is still forecast
occassionally this week.

Why not? Logically it will do less harm to the plant than picking off
two foot stems with huge leaves on.

We always start picking ours at 6 inches; it's very sweet and tender
at that stage. We've been picking for three weeks :-)

Janet



In my youth we always put a bucket over a couple of crowns to get some
early rhubarb

For the first time ever that is just what I have done!

Alan


I harvested my first rhubarb (ever!) yesterday and made a delicious little
crumble. What I'm wondering is, how much is it safe to pick before it starts
weakening and damaging the plant? I don't want to overdo it.


Ian


Depends on the plant! How old is it?

If it is in its first or second year, dont over do it. I always leave at
least on stalk per crown/bud, often two. Also stop picking in July so
that it has chance to build itself up for the winter - they also say
that after July there are toxin's or something in the stalks, but I'm
still here and I've been eating rhubarb till mid/late August for may
years.

Once it is really well establish, pick it as hard as you want, it is
quite difficult to kill! Don't forget to cut off the flowering shoots.


--
Roger T

700 ft up in Mid-Wales

Janet 13-04-2012 07:43 PM

Rhubarb
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
lid says...

Alan Holmes wrote:
"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
On Apr 10, 8:45 pm, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...



My rhubarb has come on very well this year (uncovered and not
forced). So much so that I am tempted to pick some of the larger
stalks (9-12 inches long). I've never picked this early before,
usually starting early-mid May, so I am wondering if it is wise to
pick this early, especially as ground frost is still forecast
occassionally this week.

Why not? Logically it will do less harm to the plant than picking off
two foot stems with huge leaves on.

We always start picking ours at 6 inches; it's very sweet and tender
at that stage. We've been picking for three weeks :-)

Janet


In my youth we always put a bucket over a couple of crowns to get some
early rhubarb

For the first time ever that is just what I have done!

Alan


I harvested my first rhubarb (ever!) yesterday and made a delicious little
crumble. What I'm wondering is, how much is it safe to pick before it starts
weakening and damaging the plant? I don't want to overdo it.


Ian


Depends on the plant! How old is it?

If it is in its first or second year, dont over do it. I always leave at
least on stalk per crown/bud, often two. Also stop picking in July so
that it has chance to build itself up for the winter - they also say
that after July there are toxin's or something in the stalks, but I'm
still here and I've been eating rhubarb till mid/late August for may
years.


It's oxalic acid. It's always present in rhubarb but the levels are
higher later in the season.

http://www.dewsworld.com/FInDefenseofOxalicAcid.html

Action of Poisoning:
"Oxalic acid also combines with metals such as calcium, iron, sodium,
magnesium, and potassium in the body to form oxalate crystals which
precipitate and irritate the gut and kidneys. The calcium oxalate
preciptate (better known as kidney stones) obstruct the kidney tubules.
Because it binds vital nutrients such as calcium, long-term consumption of
foods high in oxalic acid can lead to nutrient deficiencies.

Healthy individuals can safely consume such foods in moderation, but those
with kidney disorders, gout, rheumatoid arthritis, or certain forms of
chronic vulvar pain (vulvodynia) are typically advised to avoid foods high
in oxalic acid or oxalates....

The gritty feel one gets in the mouth when drinking milk with rhubarb
desserts is caused by precipitation of calcium oxalate. Thus even dilute
amounts of oxalic acid can readily "crack" the casein found in various
dairy products."

I was always told babies and frail elderly people with thinning bones
should also avoid rhubarb because of the calcium interference

Janet


Ian B[_3_] 13-04-2012 08:04 PM

Rhubarb
 
Roger Tonkin wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

Alan Holmes wrote:
"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
On Apr 10, 8:45 pm, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...



My rhubarb has come on very well this year (uncovered and not
forced). So much so that I am tempted to pick some of the larger
stalks (9-12 inches long). I've never picked this early before,
usually starting early-mid May, so I am wondering if it is wise to
pick this early, especially as ground frost is still forecast
occassionally this week.

Why not? Logically it will do less harm to the plant than picking
off two foot stems with huge leaves on.

We always start picking ours at 6 inches; it's very sweet and
tender at that stage. We've been picking for three weeks :-)

Janet


In my youth we always put a bucket over a couple of crowns to get
some early rhubarb

For the first time ever that is just what I have done!

Alan


I harvested my first rhubarb (ever!) yesterday and made a delicious
little crumble. What I'm wondering is, how much is it safe to pick
before it starts weakening and damaging the plant? I don't want to
overdo it.


Ian


Depends on the plant! How old is it?

If it is in its first or second year, dont over do it. I always leave
at least on stalk per crown/bud, often two. Also stop picking in July
so that it has chance to build itself up for the winter - they also
say that after July there are toxin's or something in the stalks, but
I'm still here and I've been eating rhubarb till mid/late August for
may years.


I planted it late in 2010, all the leaves died off and I thought it was dead
but it roared into life last spring :)

I left it all last year to establish without harvesting anything. I've just
been out and counted and there are 20 stalks on it at various stages, plus I
ate 3 yesterday. It looks quite robust and has been shooting like mad, at
least by my estimation anyway.

Once it is really well establish, pick it as hard as you want, it is
quite difficult to kill! Don't forget to cut off the flowering shoots.


Ah. I don't see anything that looks like a flower shoot currently. I take it
I should cut them off as early as possible when they appear?


Ian



Ian B[_3_] 13-04-2012 08:05 PM

Rhubarb
 
Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...

In article ,
lid says...

Alan Holmes wrote:
"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
On Apr 10, 8:45 pm, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...



My rhubarb has come on very well this year (uncovered and not
forced). So much so that I am tempted to pick some of the larger
stalks (9-12 inches long). I've never picked this early before,
usually starting early-mid May, so I am wondering if it is wise
to pick this early, especially as ground frost is still forecast
occassionally this week.

Why not? Logically it will do less harm to the plant than picking
off two foot stems with huge leaves on.

We always start picking ours at 6 inches; it's very sweet and
tender at that stage. We've been picking for three weeks :-)

Janet


In my youth we always put a bucket over a couple of crowns to get
some early rhubarb

For the first time ever that is just what I have done!

Alan

I harvested my first rhubarb (ever!) yesterday and made a delicious
little crumble. What I'm wondering is, how much is it safe to pick
before it starts weakening and damaging the plant? I don't want to
overdo it.


Ian


Depends on the plant! How old is it?

If it is in its first or second year, dont over do it. I always
leave at least on stalk per crown/bud, often two. Also stop picking
in July so that it has chance to build itself up for the winter -
they also say that after July there are toxin's or something in the
stalks, but I'm still here and I've been eating rhubarb till
mid/late August for may years.


It's oxalic acid. It's always present in rhubarb but the levels are
higher later in the season.

http://www.dewsworld.com/FInDefenseofOxalicAcid.html

Action of Poisoning:
"Oxalic acid also combines with metals such as calcium, iron, sodium,
magnesium, and potassium in the body to form oxalate crystals which
precipitate and irritate the gut and kidneys. The calcium oxalate
preciptate (better known as kidney stones) obstruct the kidney
tubules. Because it binds vital nutrients such as calcium, long-term
consumption of foods high in oxalic acid can lead to nutrient
deficiencies.

Healthy individuals can safely consume such foods in moderation, but
those with kidney disorders, gout, rheumatoid arthritis, or certain
forms of chronic vulvar pain (vulvodynia) are typically advised to
avoid foods high in oxalic acid or oxalates....

The gritty feel one gets in the mouth when drinking milk with rhubarb
desserts is caused by precipitation of calcium oxalate. Thus even
dilute amounts of oxalic acid can readily "crack" the casein found in
various dairy products."

I was always told babies and frail elderly people with thinning bones
should also avoid rhubarb because of the calcium interference



Well, I love rhubarb crumble and was chuffed to bits at making my first ever
"home grown" one yesterday. It's starting to look quite perilous now though!


Ian



Bill Grey 15-04-2012 07:21 PM

Rhubarb
 

"Janet" wrote in message
...
I was always told babies and frail elderly people with thinning bones
should also avoid rhubarb because of the calcium interference

Janet



Oh 'eck!

That's most of this NG off the rhubarb tart then :-)

Bill




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