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'Mike'[_4_] 06-05-2012 09:43 AM

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An iow urgler has raised an interesting question with me

A lot has been said about the rainwater not getting to the water table, but
think about it and be honest. What have YOU done on your land to
STOP/PREVENT the rain water soaking down?

Since moving into this house in 1986, we have built a garage, put up a shed,
put up a greenhouse and put a verandah across the width of the back of the
house. All of this covers in excess of 600 square feet. That's over 600
square feet of garden covered with 'roof'. BUT, they all have water butts
linked to them and the overflows are sending the water back into the ground
with none in a situation whereby the water flows off to a drain. A water
butt linked to the house guttering DOES have the overflow going into a
drain, but it did before.

However, a concrete hard standing outside the garage of some 250 square
feet, which was plain earth, DOES now go into a drain.

So what have YOU done? Hard standing with a run off to the road drain?
Extension with water now going into the drains/main sewer? New House on that
bit of garden?

Mike

--

....................................

I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

....................................






[email protected] 06-05-2012 10:01 AM

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In article ,
'Mike' wrote:

A lot has been said about the rainwater not getting to the water table, but
think about it and be honest. What have YOU done on your land to
STOP/PREVENT the rain water soaking down?

Since moving into this house in 1986, we have built a garage, put up a shed,
put up a greenhouse and put a verandah across the width of the back of the
house. All of this covers in excess of 600 square feet. That's over 600
square feet of garden covered with 'roof'. BUT, they all have water butts
linked to them and the overflows are sending the water back into the ground
with none in a situation whereby the water flows off to a drain. A water
butt linked to the house guttering DOES have the overflow going into a
drain, but it did before.

However, a concrete hard standing outside the garage of some 250 square
feet, which was plain earth, DOES now go into a drain.

So what have YOU done? Hard standing with a run off to the road drain?
Extension with water now going into the drains/main sewer? New House on that
bit of garden?


Our front hard standing is concrete blocks, draining into a soakaway,
and the pavement outside our house (and others) drains into THAT!
I have thought of charging the water authority for drainage
services :-)

And all of our rainwater goes into soakaways or just into the soil.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Moonraker 06-05-2012 10:48 AM

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On 06/05/2012 10:01, wrote:
In ,
wrote:

A lot has been said about the rainwater not getting to the water table, but
think about it and be honest. What have YOU done on your land to
STOP/PREVENT the rain water soaking down?

Since moving into this house in 1986, we have built a garage, put up a shed,
put up a greenhouse and put a verandah across the width of the back of the
house. All of this covers in excess of 600 square feet. That's over 600
square feet of garden covered with 'roof'. BUT, they all have water butts
linked to them and the overflows are sending the water back into the ground
with none in a situation whereby the water flows off to a drain. A water
butt linked to the house guttering DOES have the overflow going into a
drain, but it did before.

However, a concrete hard standing outside the garage of some 250 square
feet, which was plain earth, DOES now go into a drain.

So what have YOU done? Hard standing with a run off to the road drain?
Extension with water now going into the drains/main sewer? New House on that
bit of garden?


Our front hard standing is concrete blocks, draining into a soakaway,
and the pavement outside our house (and others) drains into THAT!
I have thought of charging the water authority for drainage
services :-)

And all of our rainwater goes into soakaways or just into the soil.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

All my water returns to the ground. I am on a septic tank and the only
drains are soakaways, I have plenty of tubs to collect water for the
garden and car cleaning, but that also finds its way into the ground. So
should I give myself a pat on the back? I think not. A lot of problems
are caused by building on flood planes, these are well drained, but the
water hits people further down stream, as inevitably it drains into a
local waterway.

--
Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire

Jeff Layman[_2_] 06-05-2012 11:01 AM

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On 06/05/2012 09:43, 'Mike' wrote:
An iow urgler has raised an interesting question with me

A lot has been said about the rainwater not getting to the water table, but
think about it and be honest. What have YOU done on your land to
STOP/PREVENT the rain water soaking down?

Since moving into this house in 1986, we have built a garage, put up a shed,
put up a greenhouse and put a verandah across the width of the back of the
house. All of this covers in excess of 600 square feet. That's over 600
square feet of garden covered with 'roof'. BUT, they all have water butts
linked to them and the overflows are sending the water back into the ground
with none in a situation whereby the water flows off to a drain. A water
butt linked to the house guttering DOES have the overflow going into a
drain, but it did before.

However, a concrete hard standing outside the garage of some 250 square
feet, which was plain earth, DOES now go into a drain.

So what have YOU done? Hard standing with a run off to the road drain?
Extension with water now going into the drains/main sewer? New House on that
bit of garden?


Related to your question, if a bit at a tangent to it, is the problem
that "concreting over" causes. It increases the flooding risk as the
drains can't cope with the water than would previously have soaked
away.. So much so, I believe, that many authorities have banned the
concreting/asphalting of front gardens to provide more parking space.

--

Jeff

'Mike'[_4_] 06-05-2012 11:13 AM

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"Jeff Layman" wrote in message
...
On 06/05/2012 09:43, 'Mike' wrote:
An iow urgler has raised an interesting question with me

A lot has been said about the rainwater not getting to the water table,
but
think about it and be honest. What have YOU done on your land to
STOP/PREVENT the rain water soaking down?

Since moving into this house in 1986, we have built a garage, put up a
shed,
put up a greenhouse and put a verandah across the width of the back of
the
house. All of this covers in excess of 600 square feet. That's over 600
square feet of garden covered with 'roof'. BUT, they all have water butts
linked to them and the overflows are sending the water back into the
ground
with none in a situation whereby the water flows off to a drain. A water
butt linked to the house guttering DOES have the overflow going into a
drain, but it did before.

However, a concrete hard standing outside the garage of some 250 square
feet, which was plain earth, DOES now go into a drain.

So what have YOU done? Hard standing with a run off to the road drain?
Extension with water now going into the drains/main sewer? New House on
that
bit of garden?


Related to your question, if a bit at a tangent to it, is the problem that
"concreting over" causes. It increases the flooding risk as the drains
can't cope with the water than would previously have soaked away.. So
much so, I believe, that many authorities have banned the
concreting/asphalting of front gardens to provide more parking space.

--

Jeff


Don't know if it has been implemented yet but two things were talked about.
1. The hard standing must be of porous block and 2. (A frightening one in
certain circumstances) the hard standing must slope BACK away from the road
so it drains back onto the land.

Our biggest problem here on the Isle of Wight is the amount of building
going on. A huge estate complete with a supermarket, (ANOTHER one, with
acres of car park.) This land did soak the rain water away, but will now, I
expect, run off into the River Medina and thence out to sea.

Mike



--

....................................

I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

....................................





Janet 06-05-2012 12:13 PM

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Our front hard standing is concrete blocks, draining into a soakaway,
and the pavement outside our house (and others) drains into THAT!
I have thought of charging the water authority for drainage
services :-)

And all of our rainwater goes into soakaways or just into the soil.


Our entire garden is fully rain-permeable, and every drop of rainwater
falling on the house or mains water used in it for any purpose, is
returned to the earth (via drain and septic tank soakaways into adjacent
field.) From the field it trickles down a cliff direct to the sea where it
gets turned back into more bloody rain.

Janet


'Mike'[_4_] 06-05-2012 07:48 PM

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"Janet" wrote in message
...
In article , says...


Our front hard standing is concrete blocks, draining into a soakaway,
and the pavement outside our house (and others) drains into THAT!
I have thought of charging the water authority for drainage
services :-)

And all of our rainwater goes into soakaways or just into the soil.


Our entire garden is fully rain-permeable, and every drop of rainwater
falling on the house or mains water used in it for any purpose, is
returned to the earth (via drain and septic tank soakaways into adjacent
field.) From the field it trickles down a cliff direct to the sea where it
gets turned back into more bloody rain.

Janet


The point being that any rain water which wanted to get to the water table
....... could :-)

Whereas once roof and road are in place, it's a case of down the drain
:-( ....Water table? Tough :-(

Mike


--

....................................

I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

....................................



harry 07-05-2012 08:01 AM

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On May 6, 9:43*am, "'Mike'" wrote:
An iow urgler has raised an interesting question with me

A lot has been said about the rainwater not getting to the water table, but
think about it and be honest. What have YOU done on your land to
STOP/PREVENT the rain water soaking down?

Since moving into this house in 1986, we have built a garage, put up a shed,
put up a greenhouse and put a verandah across the width of the back of the
house. All of this covers in excess of 600 square feet. That's over 600
square feet of garden covered with 'roof'. BUT, they all have water butts
linked to them and the overflows are sending the water back into the ground
with none in a situation whereby the water flows off to a drain. A water
butt linked to the house guttering DOES have the overflow going into a
drain, but it did before.

However, a concrete hard standing outside the garage of some 250 square
feet, which was plain earth, DOES now go into a drain.

So what have YOU done? Hard standing with a run off to the road drain?
Extension with water now going into the drains/main sewer? New House on that
bit of garden?

Mike

--

...................................

I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight..

...................................


There are new building regulations about hard surfaces to be made
permeable.

http://www.communities.gov.uk/public...eablesurfacing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeable_paving

news 08-05-2012 02:38 PM

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In article
,
harry writes
NO thanks.


You live under a bridge - and with luck you - and specifically bigotry -
will get caught in the sun.

--
regards andyw

[email protected] 08-05-2012 02:57 PM

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In article ,
news wrote:
In article
,
harry writes
NO thanks.


You live under a bridge - and with luck you - and specifically bigotry -
will get caught in the sun.


I have reported it.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

harry 09-05-2012 10:36 AM

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On May 8, 2:57*pm, wrote:
In article ,

news wrote:
In article
,
harry writes
NO thanks.


You live under a bridge - and with luck you - and specifically bigotry -
will get caught in the sun.


I have reported it.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


The bigot Nick.

news 14-05-2012 11:51 AM

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In article
,
harry writes

The bigot Nick.


Wow - looking at your other posts in this thread, you really are an
absolute, bona fide Class A Tosspot, aren't you. All the hallmarks of
Trollus Subpontii; ref: everyone that doesn't agree with you is a
'stupid person'; evidence is only allowed to point one way; selectivity
is compulsory to support your argument.

And that's before any commnets on your supremely empathetic character
that arise from viewing your "usual" postings.


--
regards andyw


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