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[email protected] 15-05-2012 08:10 PM

Fig and frost
 

This year has been tough on our fig, and I suspect that it is not
going to sprout well - it looks as if a few weedy tip shoots may
break into leaf, but not much else. My inclination is that, if
it does that, to cut those back, and force it to regrow from old
wood.

Has anyone experience with figs and late frosts, and does that
make sense?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

David WE Roberts[_4_] 15-05-2012 08:18 PM

Fig and frost
 

wrote in message ...

This year has been tough on our fig, and I suspect that it is not
going to sprout well - it looks as if a few weedy tip shoots may
break into leaf, but not much else. My inclination is that, if
it does that, to cut those back, and force it to regrow from old
wood.

Has anyone experience with figs and late frosts, and does that
make sense?



One thing - on our Brown Turkey the figs are on the tips, so if you cut
these back you may lose all this year's fruit.

Ours has just started puttting out leaves, and although we haven't had a
late frost it has in the past been frost hardy.
Yours may just be a late starter this year because of the continuing cold
weather.

Possibly worth waiting a few weeks to see what developes?

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[email protected] 15-05-2012 08:35 PM

Fig and frost
 
In article ,
David WE Roberts wrote:


This year has been tough on our fig, and I suspect that it is not
going to sprout well - it looks as if a few weedy tip shoots may
break into leaf, but not much else. My inclination is that, if
it does that, to cut those back, and force it to regrow from old
wood.

Has anyone experience with figs and late frosts, and does that
make sense?


One thing - on our Brown Turkey the figs are on the tips, so if you cut
these back you may lose all this year's fruit.


Thanks, but ... :-(

We are FAR too cold for overwintering fruit! I agree that figs
develop mainly on the previous year's wood, and rarely on new
shoots, but there aren't going to be many of those.

Ours has just started puttting out leaves, and although we haven't had a
late frost it has in the past been frost hardy.


Cambridge is normally colder than that, and was this year. Even
figs in warmer gardens haven't started leaves yet.

Yours may just be a late starter this year because of the continuing cold
weather.


Er, no, sorry. It is pretty clear that the fairly hard and late
frosts have killed most of the younger growth. I did mean a FEW
weedy tip shoots!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

No Name 15-05-2012 09:18 PM

Fig and frost
 
wrote:
This year has been tough on our fig, and I suspect that it is not
going to sprout well - it looks as if a few weedy tip shoots may
break into leaf, but not much else. My inclination is that, if
it does that, to cut those back, and force it to regrow from old
wood.

Has anyone experience with figs and late frosts, and does that
make sense?


I know this won't make you any happier, but my fig looks like it's
about to have its best year yet (ok, not much comparison to go by!)
and we may even get some edible fruit this year

kay 16-05-2012 10:11 AM

So are we - but this year's figs are already visible as lentil sized buds before the leaves appear. These are the ones you will lose by pruning.

One of our figs is just thinking about uncurling its leaves, the other hasn't started yet.

At this time of year I'd be worried about sap bleeding, so if you are going to prune, test a small twig first. But you're obviously OK about taking out dead stuff.

That said, commercial growers prune heavily, taking out big branches, in order to encourage a lot of branches since, as has already been said, figs tend to fruit at only at the tips.

So if you think you are still OK to prune, then seizing the opportunity to cut back a few branches may give you more figs next year.

(There again, if there are a lot of embryo fruits coming, I'd find it very hard to prune - delayed gratification isn't my thing as far as figs are concerned.)

Figs are very tough things. April two years ago last my garden waterer forgot about the potted fig, which lost all its leaves and died back. I chopped it back to 6 inch apparently dead twigs and parked the pot under a shrub to deal with later. In late August it produced a whole bunch of new leaves and is now going fine.

[email protected] 16-05-2012 10:40 AM

Fig and frost
 
In article ,
kay wrote:

One thing - on our Brown Turkey the figs are on the tips, so if you cut

these back you may lose all this year's fruit.-

Thanks, but ... :-(

We are FAR too cold for overwintering fruit!


So are we - but this year's figs are already visible as lentil sized
buds before the leaves appear. These are the ones you will lose by
pruning.


That typically doesn't happen here, because it is too cold. Those
(obviously) have to form at the same time or earlier than the leaf
buds, and we have had a couple of quite hard frosts recently.

One of our figs is just thinking about uncurling its leaves, the other
hasn't started yet.


That is a LONG way ahead of here! It hasn't even started forming
buds - the only ones visible are those that overwintered, and I
don't know if any will burst.

The point is that we have a cold garden. The fig was my wife's
choice, and has never done much. There is only one warm spot,
and it absolutely cannot go there (drains etc.)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

No Name 16-05-2012 02:16 PM

Fig and frost
 
kay wrote:
So are we - but this year's figs are already visible as lentil sized
buds before the leaves appear. These are the ones you will lose by
pruning.


Ours are about the size of large grapes already!

No Name 16-05-2012 02:23 PM

Fig and frost
 
wrote:
That is a LONG way ahead of here! It hasn't even started forming
buds - the only ones visible are those that overwintered, and I
don't know if any will burst.

The point is that we have a cold garden. The fig was my wife's
choice, and has never done much. There is only one warm spot,
and it absolutely cannot go there (drains etc.)


Is your fig, by any chance, not a UK-designed one such as brown
turkey? ok, I have a south facing garden, and the fig is near
the house, but ... you're only 20 or so miles up the M11! It
can't be /that/ different climate to me!
(I had a 10 minute warning about the hailstorm yesterday)

[email protected] 16-05-2012 02:36 PM

Fig and frost
 
In article , wrote:

That is a LONG way ahead of here! It hasn't even started forming
buds - the only ones visible are those that overwintered, and I
don't know if any will burst.

The point is that we have a cold garden. The fig was my wife's
choice, and has never done much. There is only one warm spot,
and it absolutely cannot go there (drains etc.)


Is your fig, by any chance, not a UK-designed one such as brown
turkey? ok, I have a south facing garden, and the fig is near
the house, but ... you're only 20 or so miles up the M11! It
can't be /that/ different climate to me!
(I had a 10 minute warning about the hailstorm yesterday)


It's a Brown Turkey. As I said, it's a cold garden, though I am
not entirely sure why, but I have observed that in many plants.
They are generally a week or so later than the area, and often
rather more affected by frost.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

kay 16-05-2012 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Post 958850)

The point is that we have a cold garden. The fig was my wife's
choice, and has never done much. There is only one warm spot,
and it absolutely cannot go there (drains etc.)
.

Can you not grow a couple of them in pots and keep them in a cold greenhouse overnight?

Figs that have been ripened on the tree are wonderfully rich in flavour, and Brown Turkey are much more intensely flavoured than the dark blue things which are sold as fresh figs in the supermarket.

kay 16-05-2012 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Post 958850)

That is a LONG way ahead of here! It hasn't even started forming
buds - the only ones visible are those that overwintered, and I
don't know if any will burst.

No little half-round lumps at the base of the buds? If not, then I'd go ahead and take the chance of pruning.

I doubt whether you'll make things any worse ;-)

No Name 16-05-2012 10:31 PM

Fig and frost
 
wrote:
It's a Brown Turkey. As I said, it's a cold garden, though I am
not entirely sure why, but I have observed that in many plants.
They are generally a week or so later than the area, and often
rather more affected by frost.


How strange. Havign said that, our asparagus patch on the allotment is
distinctly colder than the rest of the whole plot, for no apparent
reason. I think it's probably haunted.

[email protected] 17-05-2012 09:26 AM

Fig and frost
 
In article , wrote:

It's a Brown Turkey. As I said, it's a cold garden, though I am
not entirely sure why, but I have observed that in many plants.
They are generally a week or so later than the area, and often
rather more affected by frost.


How strange. Havign said that, our asparagus patch on the allotment is
distinctly colder than the rest of the whole plot, for no apparent
reason. I think it's probably haunted.


The only thing that is strange is that I can't identify why! It's
fairly common. Anyway, I passed a fig 2 days ago elsewhere in
Cambridge, and it was still solidly dormant - that that was south
facing, sort-of!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Dave Hill 17-05-2012 10:34 PM

Fig and frost
 
On May 17, 9:26*am, wrote:
In article , wrote:

It's a Brown Turkey. *As I said, it's a cold garden, though I am
not entirely sure why, but I have observed that in many plants.
They are generally a week or so later than the area, and often
rather more affected by frost.


How strange. *Havign said that, our asparagus patch on the allotment is
distinctly colder than the rest of the whole plot, for no apparent
reason. *I think it's probably haunted.


The only thing that is strange is that I can't identify why! *It's
fairly common. *Anyway, I passed a fig 2 days ago elsewhere in
Cambridge, and it was still solidly dormant - that that was south
facing, sort-of!

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Some interesting info on figs
http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1787/


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