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Ophelia[_4_] 18-06-2012 05:44 PM

Glyphosate
 
Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

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David WE Roberts[_4_] 18-06-2012 06:02 PM

Glyphosate
 

"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.



Only kills plants (and animals by accident now and then).


In other words - no.
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David in Normandy[_8_] 18-06-2012 06:23 PM

Glyphosate
 
On 18/06/2012 19:15, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:44:38 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:

Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.


It selects almost anything it comes in contact with.


My father sprayed some weeds next to a huge fifty year old clump of
rhubarb and accidentally got some spray on its leaves killing it!

It is vicious stuff, takes no prisoners with few exceptions - ivy
seemingly being one.

Jake 18-06-2012 06:25 PM

Glyphosate
 
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:44:38 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:

Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

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I have used glyphosate next to woody stems without problems. BUT if
there's a leaf and glyphosate hits it, it's on its way into the plant.

If you need to use it close to other plants then there are techniques
to try carefully. For example, if you have the glyphosate in a small
hand sprayer, you could cut the bottom off a large pop bottle and
encase the plant you want to kill in that then spray through the cap -
leave the bottle in place until the spray dries, though. Or you can
wrap the plants you want to keep in polythene, again leaving it in
place until the spray has dried on the plants you hit with the
glyphosate.

Some people paint glyphosate onto something with a paintbrush but you
need to be careful that whatever is painted doesn't blow against
something else while still wet.

There is a "new" product from Roundup that seems to work on the basis
of rubbing some sort of pad against the foliage of whatever it is you
want to kill but I haven't tried that (and as it has the "Roundup"
name on it, probably won't).

Cheers, Jake
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Bill G's in the middle. Come to think of it, where is Bill G these days?

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 18-06-2012 06:31 PM

Glyphosate
 

"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

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You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you have
an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench with
water.


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Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
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Ophelia[_4_] 18-06-2012 07:16 PM

Glyphosate
 


"David in Normandy" wrote in message
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On 18/06/2012 19:15, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:44:38 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:

Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other
bushes.


It selects almost anything it comes in contact with.


My father sprayed some weeds next to a huge fifty year old clump of
rhubarb and accidentally got some spray on its leaves killing it!

It is vicious stuff, takes no prisoners with few exceptions - ivy
seemingly being one.


Oh dear:( Thanks!

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Ophelia[_4_] 18-06-2012 07:16 PM

Glyphosate
 


"Martin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:44:38 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:

Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.


It selects almost anything it comes in contact with.


Oh, thanks:(
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Ophelia[_4_] 18-06-2012 07:17 PM

Glyphosate
 


"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
...
Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

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You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you
have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench
with water.


Thanks for that. I can see I will need to think very carefully how/if I use
it!

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Ophelia[_4_] 18-06-2012 07:17 PM

Glyphosate
 


"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...
Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.



Only kills plants (and animals by accident now and then).


In other words - no.
--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder


Vielen Dank, :) Helmuth!
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Ophelia[_4_] 18-06-2012 07:18 PM

Glyphosate
 


"Jake" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:44:38 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:

Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

--

I have used glyphosate next to woody stems without problems. BUT if
there's a leaf and glyphosate hits it, it's on its way into the plant.

If you need to use it close to other plants then there are techniques
to try carefully. For example, if you have the glyphosate in a small
hand sprayer, you could cut the bottom off a large pop bottle and
encase the plant you want to kill in that then spray through the cap -
leave the bottle in place until the spray dries, though. Or you can
wrap the plants you want to keep in polythene, again leaving it in
place until the spray has dried on the plants you hit with the
glyphosate.

Some people paint glyphosate onto something with a paintbrush but you
need to be careful that whatever is painted doesn't blow against
something else while still wet.

There is a "new" product from Roundup that seems to work on the basis
of rubbing some sort of pad against the foliage of whatever it is you
want to kill but I haven't tried that (and as it has the "Roundup"
name on it, probably won't).


Thanks, Jake. That is very good info.

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Pete C[_3_] 18-06-2012 09:59 PM

Glyphosate
 

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...
Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

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http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you
have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench
with water.

I accidently sprayed a young potato, drenched with water within 30
seconds....no good, dead tatty
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Pete C



Ophelia[_4_] 18-06-2012 10:00 PM

Glyphosate
 


"Pete C" wrote in message
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...
Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other
bushes.

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http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you
have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or
drench with water.

I accidently sprayed a young potato, drenched with water within 30
seconds....no good, dead tatty


Oh:( I was rather hoping strong woody bushes might not be so vulnerable but
it seems not:(

Not summat to be messed with eh?
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Pete C[_3_] 18-06-2012 10:01 PM

Glyphosate
 

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...
Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other
bushes.

--
--

http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you
have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or
drench
with water.


Thanks for that. I can see I will need to think very carefully how/if I
use
it!

Spray into a contaner and paint on with kiddies paint brush.
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Pete C



Martin Brown 19-06-2012 08:51 AM

Glyphosate
 
On 18/06/2012 17:44, Ophelia wrote:

Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.


Absolutely not. It kills all green things. But the dose makes the poison.

Holly and ivy seedlings are usually sufficiently waxy to survive
application of glyphosate (more mysteriously so are buttercups although
they do not at all look well afterwards). Apart from that any green
material you touch with glyphosate will potentially doom the plant.

Try not to hit anything you don't want to kill. Having said that I would
not be worried about using it near or under holly bushes or any other
shrubs where I could keep the stems away from the spray.

I suspect that since holly seedlings survive application of glyphosate
the full grown plant will too but I have never done the experiment.

Grass is exquisitely sensitive to it so beware of outline marks left on
your lawn by any overspray on boots.

Cutting bits off to avoid collateral damage fairly quickly will work as
a last resort. Don't spray on a windy day and don't use too fine a spray
that will be inclined to drift too far.

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Regards,
Martin Brown

Martin Brown 19-06-2012 08:53 AM

Glyphosate
 
On 18/06/2012 21:59, Pete C wrote:
"Charlie wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

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http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you
have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench
with water.

I accidently sprayed a young potato, drenched with water within 30
seconds....no good, dead tatty


The only solution is immediate amputation of the affected parts.

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Regards,
Martin Brown


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