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On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:00:17 +0100, "Ophelia"
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And I think the first semi-accidental courgette (which was grown
deliberately but has rooted itself into a garden planter before I
could plant out on the allotment!) has its first fruit forming


Guess what we are all gonna do next year then? Semi-accidental some
others
as well ;-) Deliberatly, of course.

Last week I went to buy some courgette plants but they had just sold
out.
The nice lady suggested planting some seeds! She assured me they would
be
growing fairly quickly. She was right!!! They are coming on by leaps
and
bounds))

A honeysuckle and a pink rose have climbed to at least 4' above a Lidl
arch. The rose was sold as growing to a height of 4'. It was planted
near to the arch, but not was not supposed to climb up it.

Now about this pumpkin seed that dropped between a gap in the keys on
my keyboard.


hahaha the mind boggles!
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I once dropped a conker down near the gearstick of my Renault 5 that I
had. It was a biggie that I got for my young nephew and I couldn't get it
out from where it had lodged easily so I didn't.
It grew. Have my two brothers ever let me forget about it?
No.
Does it annoy me that they smirk about this and remind me almost every
time we meet up? Yes, big time.


lololol I love it)))

I could remind them that I changed their nappies, and taught them to read
before they went to school - to give them a good start. If I wanted to.


You probably ought to at some point g

They are both doing well in their chosen careers.


Excellent

My younger brother who is sharing the lottie cannot get down there now
much, he is heavily involved with the Olympics.
To be fair, he did tell me that.
I've not told him that we have potato blight. Or that he needs to use his
borrowed petrol strimmer to make sure I am not stung to death by the
nettles getting from the gate to the plot.


Oh dear Being the newby that I am, I am not sure what potato blight is
but it doesn't sound too good ...
Good luck with it and I hope it clears up fast ...

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My younger brother who is sharing the lottie cannot get down there
now much, he is heavily involved with the Olympics.
To be fair, he did tell me that.
I've not told him that we have potato blight. Or that he needs to use
his borrowed petrol strimmer to make sure I am not stung to death by
the nettles getting from the gate to the plot.


Oh dear Being the newby that I am, I am not sure what potato blight
is but it doesn't sound too good ...
Good luck with it and I hope it clears up fast ...



SHHH! blight is the worst thing in the garden. It affects potatoes and tomatoes.

Many of us have it now.

A link for you

http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/...ne/blight.html

I have an idea that you know what it is :-)

Baz
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"Ophelia" wrote in
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My younger brother who is sharing the lottie cannot get down there
now much, he is heavily involved with the Olympics.
To be fair, he did tell me that.
I've not told him that we have potato blight. Or that he needs to use
his borrowed petrol strimmer to make sure I am not stung to death by
the nettles getting from the gate to the plot.


Oh dear Being the newby that I am, I am not sure what potato blight
is but it doesn't sound too good ...
Good luck with it and I hope it clears up fast ...



SHHH! blight is the worst thing in the garden. It affects potatoes and
tomatoes.

Many of us have it now.

A link for you

http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/...ne/blight.html

I have an idea that you know what it is :-)



Pah! Flippin' cheek g

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Ragnar wrote:--
Oddly, I think I would recognise a red admiral.
Could have been one of these:
http://tinyurl.com/bl8rzok-

Very pretty but not a butterfly of course.-

If it /is/ that one, it appears to be a cinnabar moth:
'Identify a day-flying moth - Butterfly Conservation'
(http://tinyurl.com/d399s5u)


One reason for not killing all the ragwort.


Unless you have horses. They will rarely eat ragwort when it is growing but
when dried in hay they will and not a lot of it causes severe liver damage
up to and including death.
Cinnabar moths do prefer ragwort as a caterpillar plant but their
caterpillars can also do without it and eat various grasses.
ISTR that ragwort is a notifiable weed and you are obliged to pull it up by
law. I might be wrong on this. When I had a horse I was ruthless if one
plant popped it's head up in her paddock.
I like cinnabar moths but I liked my horse better.
My friend's pony died from ragwort poisoning and was ill for ages before
diagnosis so I never took that chance.







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On 15/07/2012 22:01, Christina Websell wrote:
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No Name;964168 Wrote:
Ragnar wrote:--
Oddly, I think I would recognise a red admiral.
Could have been one of these:
http://tinyurl.com/bl8rzok-

Very pretty but not a butterfly of course.-

If it /is/ that one, it appears to be a cinnabar moth:
'Identify a day-flying moth - Butterfly Conservation'
(http://tinyurl.com/d399s5u)


One reason for not killing all the ragwort.


Unless you have horses. They will rarely eat ragwort when it is growing but
when dried in hay they will and not a lot of it causes severe liver damage
up to and including death.
Cinnabar moths do prefer ragwort as a caterpillar plant but their
caterpillars can also do without it and eat various grasses.
ISTR that ragwort is a notifiable weed and you are obliged to pull it up by
law. I might be wrong on this. When I had a horse I was ruthless if one
plant popped it's head up in her paddock.
I like cinnabar moths but I liked my horse better.
My friend's pony died from ragwort poisoning and was ill for ages before
diagnosis so I never took that chance.



It's not notifiable , you only have to look at how much grows along the
Motorways where it's left to it's own devices.
David @ the showery end of Swansea bay




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It's not notifiable , you only have to look at how much grows along the
Motorways where it's left to it's own devices.
David @ the showery end of Swansea bay

It's merely an "injurious weed" as per the Weeds Act of 1950something
(yep, there is such an Act). The Sec of State can serve a notice on
someone on whose land common ragwort (among I think 5 weeds in total)
is growing to prevent its spread. Indeed Ragwort got its own Act in
2003 I believe. IIRC it's hilarious.

Cheers, Jake
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In article ,
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ISTR that ragwort is a notifiable weed and you are obliged to pull it up by
law. I might be wrong on this.


You are.

Janet
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:12:24 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article ,
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ISTR that ragwort is a notifiable weed and you are obliged to pull it up by
law. I might be wrong on this.


You are.

Janet


Unless the Secretary of State for something or other ((in Wales the
Welsh Ministers) don't know about Scotland) issues you with a notice.
I noticed a bit growing out of my front hedge and yanked it up because
it was a weed. A couple of days later I got a letter from the local
council telling me that I had a noxious weed growing on my land and
..... Seems the jobsworths had been around that day and it was pure
co-incidence.

They sent me a separate letter the same day telling me that a tree was
growing over the pavement and I needed to cut it back. I pointed out
that they had previously sent me a letter telling me not to cut it
back.

Cheers, Jake
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They sent me a separate letter the same day telling me that a tree was
growing over the pavement and I needed to cut it back. I pointed out
that they had previously sent me a letter telling me not to cut it
back.


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"Jake" wrote in message
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They sent me a separate letter the same day telling me that a tree was
growing over the pavement and I needed to cut it back. I pointed out
that they had previously sent me a letter telling me not to cut it
back.


lol and what was the outcome of that one?
--

Nothing. The chap I spoke to just said "Oh" and I've heard nothing
since. I don't know what is so special about this tree as it was only
planted when the house was built 22 years ago and it's a whitebeam,
nothing special. But the deeds mention it (there are 4 other trees not
mentioned) and say that I mustn't lop or whatever for 25 years and if
it dies of its own accord in that time I must replace it with same
species and similar size!

Although I'm at the end of a cul-de-sac and the pavement under the
tree is rarely used, I wanted to lift the head to leave an 8' high
clearance. Thought I'd better check first and was told not to do
anything. I asked for a letter to protect myself and got one.

But in 3 years I can chop it down if I want. There isn't a TPO on the
tree, just some bizzare planning requirement that it should be there.

Cheers, Jake
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They sent me a separate letter the same day telling me that a tree
was growing over the pavement and I needed to cut it back. I pointed
out that they had previously sent me a letter telling me not to cut
it back.


lol and what was the outcome of that one?
--

Nothing. The chap I spoke to just said "Oh" and I've heard nothing
since. I don't know what is so special about this tree as it was only
planted when the house was built 22 years ago and it's a whitebeam,
nothing special. But the deeds mention it (there are 4 other trees not
mentioned) and say that I mustn't lop or whatever for 25 years and if
it dies of its own accord in that time I must replace it with same
species and similar size!

Although I'm at the end of a cul-de-sac and the pavement under the
tree is rarely used, I wanted to lift the head to leave an 8' high
clearance. Thought I'd better check first and was told not to do
anything. I asked for a letter to protect myself and got one.

But in 3 years I can chop it down if I want. There isn't a TPO on the
tree, just some bizzare planning requirement that it should be there.


Good grief. Can planners just insist that any ridiculous thing they like
is written into the deeds of a house? It's one thing to insist that a
replacement sapling would be planted by the householder if some special
tree dies, but a 25 yr old sized one?!

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On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:50:06 +0100, "Ophelia"
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"Jake" wrote in message
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They sent me a separate letter the same day telling me that a tree was
growing over the pavement and I needed to cut it back. I pointed out
that they had previously sent me a letter telling me not to cut it
back.


lol and what was the outcome of that one?
--

Nothing. The chap I spoke to just said "Oh" and I've heard nothing
since. I don't know what is so special about this tree as it was only
planted when the house was built 22 years ago and it's a whitebeam,
nothing special. But the deeds mention it (there are 4 other trees not
mentioned) and say that I mustn't lop or whatever for 25 years and if
it dies of its own accord in that time I must replace it with same
species and similar size!

Although I'm at the end of a cul-de-sac and the pavement under the
tree is rarely used, I wanted to lift the head to leave an 8' high
clearance. Thought I'd better check first and was told not to do
anything. I asked for a letter to protect myself and got one.

But in 3 years I can chop it down if I want. There isn't a TPO on the
tree, just some bizzare planning requirement that it should be there.


Well, I suppose you can, eventually do what you want with it? You could
hold on the to letter telling you to trim it and wave that at any
complainant ...
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:05:54 +0100, "Sue" wrote:


Good grief. Can planners just insist that any ridiculous thing they like
is written into the deeds of a house? It's one thing to insist that a
replacement sapling would be planted by the householder if some special
tree dies, but a 25 yr old sized one?!


What planners do is attach a landscaping plan to the planning consent
when an estate is built and write in conditions to ensure that the
landscape "matures". AFAIK, the 25 year bit is because they can't
insist on longer for some strange reason. Then the developer writes
any necessary conditions into deeds for individual plots.

I just happen to have this tree. I think there are about 9 other plots
on the development with similar conditions.

And I have much dafter things in the deeds relating to cows, chickens,
descendants of George V and a woman who died in the 40s.

Cheers, Jake
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Unless you have horses. They will rarely eat ragwort when it is growing but
when dried in hay they will and not a lot of it causes severe liver damage
up to and including death.
I did say a reason for not killing ALL the ragwort. Of course you're going to kill it on or next to grazing land. But it is a british native plant, and therefore I don't think it is reasonable to seek to eradicate completely from the UK.

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ISTR that ragwort is a notifiable weed and you are obliged to pull it up by
law. I might be wrong on this.
yes, you are indeed wrong on two counts.

1) It is not notifiable. No plants, as far as I am aware, are notifiable. If someone tells you that a plant is notifiable, try asking them who you are supposed to notify ;-)

2) You are not obliged to pull it up, merely to take measure to avoid its spreading IF you have been served notice to this effect by the Ministry (ie someone else has been able to demonstrate that your ragwort is spreading on to their land). It is covered by two Acts

The Weeds Act 1959, which covers spear thistle, creeping thistle, curled dock, broad leaved dock and ragwort, allows MAFF (presumably now DEFRA) to serve a notice on a landowner to take whatever measures are required to stop the weed spreading.

The Ragwort Control Act 2003 provides for the Minister to draw up a code of practice on the control of Ragwort.
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It's not notifiable , you only have to look at how much grows along the
Motorways where it's left to it's own devices.
David @ the showery end of Swansea bay

It's merely an "injurious weed" as per the Weeds Act of 1950something
(yep, there is such an Act). The Sec of State can serve a notice on
someone on whose land common ragwort (among I think 5 weeds in total)
is growing to prevent its spread. Indeed Ragwort got its own Act in
2003 I believe. IIRC it's hilarious.


You might not find it so hilarious if it killed your horse, eh?




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