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David in Normandy[_8_] 02-08-2012 05:51 PM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst the
marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there any natural
remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and squishing them all?

Jake 02-08-2012 06:46 PM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:51:20 +0200, David in Normandy
wrote:

Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst the
marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there any natural
remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and squishing them all?


Nemasys Codling Moth and Cabbage White Caterpillar Killer.

http://www.originaltouch.co.uk/acata...Nematodes.html

Can you get it over there?


Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes
it's raining and sometimes it's not.

Emery Davis[_4_] 02-08-2012 06:49 PM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
On 08/02/2012 06:51 PM, David in Normandy wrote:
Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst the
marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there any natural
remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and squishing them all?


IIRC pyrethrum is considered OK for organic gardening.


Martin Brown 02-08-2012 09:17 PM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
On 02/08/2012 17:51, David in Normandy wrote:
Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst the
marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there any natural
remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and squishing them all?


Pyrethrum or rotenone both natural and fairly deadly to caterpilars.
Nicotine is deadly to humans as well as pests (and a vector for TMV).

Unless you intend to sell it are Organic(TM) produce I'd be inclined to
use one of the specific short lived knock down pesticides that is OK for
use on produce. Don't leave it too long or you will be left with bare
ribs of brassicas and no leaves at all. Happened to me last year while I
was away - 1 week and came back to skeletal plants.

Amazingly the purple sprouting broccoli came back to crop eventually but
the rest did not.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

mogga 03-08-2012 10:32 AM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:51:20 +0200, David in Normandy
wrote:

Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst the
marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there any natural
remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and squishing them all?



Bare hands?
Put them in a jam jar and drown them?
--
http://www.voucherfreebies.co.uk

Baz[_3_] 03-08-2012 11:10 AM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
mogga wrote in
:

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:51:20 +0200, David in Normandy
wrote:

Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst the
marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there any natural
remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and squishing them all?



Bare hands?
Put them in a jam jar and drown them?


How can you drown a creature? A quick death is better, well I think so.

Gary Woods 03-08-2012 12:20 PM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
David in Normandy wrote:

Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst the
marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there any natural
remedies


Are there forms of BT (Bacillus Thurigensis) available there? One trade
name in the U.S. is "Thuricide;" I don't know the British equivalents. It's
a biological control that kills cabbage worm caterpillars and a few
relatives.


--
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

mogga 03-08-2012 12:33 PM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:10:55 GMT, Baz wrote:

mogga wrote in
:

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:51:20 +0200, David in Normandy
wrote:

Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst the
marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there any natural
remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and squishing them all?



Bare hands?
Put them in a jam jar and drown them?


How can you drown a creature? A quick death is better, well I think so.


It is but if pounding them to a pulp isn't an option ... what else is
there? Release them into the wild miles away from your cabbages.
--
http://www.voucherfreebies.co.uk

David in Normandy[_8_] 03-08-2012 12:59 PM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
On 03/08/2012 13:33, mogga wrote:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:10:55 GMT, Baz wrote:

mogga wrote in
:

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:51:20 +0200, David in Normandy
wrote:

Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst the
marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there any natural
remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and squishing them all?


Bare hands?
Put them in a jam jar and drown them?


How can you drown a creature? A quick death is better, well I think so.


It is but if pounding them to a pulp isn't an option ... what else is
there? Release them into the wild miles away from your cabbages.


I'll parcel them all up with a few cabbage leaves and mail them to Baz
to look after on his brassicas. ;-)

Looks like the only practical solution is to continue the yucky job of
squishing them or using a pyrethrum based spray as mentioned elsewhere.


Baz[_3_] 03-08-2012 01:57 PM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
David in Normandy wrote in
r:

On 03/08/2012 13:33, mogga wrote:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:10:55 GMT, Baz wrote:

mogga wrote in
:

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:51:20 +0200, David in Normandy
wrote:

Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst
the marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there
any natural remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and
squishing them all?


Bare hands?
Put them in a jam jar and drown them?

How can you drown a creature? A quick death is better, well I think
so.


It is but if pounding them to a pulp isn't an option ... what else is
there? Release them into the wild miles away from your cabbages.


I'll parcel them all up with a few cabbage leaves and mail them to Baz
to look after on his brassicas. ;-)

Looks like the only practical solution is to continue the yucky job of
squishing them or using a pyrethrum based spray as mentioned
elsewhere.


Gosh! You are all too smart for me.
Now, I wonder if I should drown that cat..........

David Hill 03-08-2012 02:11 PM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
On 03/08/2012 13:57, Baz wrote:
David in Normandy wrote in
r:

On 03/08/2012 13:33, mogga wrote:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:10:55 GMT, Baz wrote:

mogga wrote in
:

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:51:20 +0200, David in Normandy
wrote:

Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst
the marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there
any natural remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and
squishing them all?


Bare hands?
Put them in a jam jar and drown them?

How can you drown a creature? A quick death is better, well I think
so.

It is but if pounding them to a pulp isn't an option ... what else is
there? Release them into the wild miles away from your cabbages.


I'll parcel them all up with a few cabbage leaves and mail them to Baz
to look after on his brassicas. ;-)

Looks like the only practical solution is to continue the yucky job of
squishing them or using a pyrethrum based spray as mentioned
elsewhere.


Gosh! You are all too smart for me.
Now, I wonder if I should drown that cat..........

Why not.
just grab it by the scruff of the neck and hold it in a bucket of water,
winner takes all.
And I know where my money would be

Granity 03-08-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Brown (Post 965924)
On 02/08/2012 17:51, David in Normandy wrote:
Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst the
marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there any natural
remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and squishing them all?


Pyrethrum or rotenone both natural and fairly deadly to caterpilars.
Nicotine is deadly to humans as well as pests (and a vector for TMV).

Unless you intend to sell it are Organic(TM) produce I'd be inclined to
use one of the specific short lived knock down pesticides that is OK for
use on produce. Don't leave it too long or you will be left with bare
ribs of brassicas and no leaves at all. Happened to me last year while I
was away - 1 week and came back to skeletal plants.

Amazingly the purple sprouting broccoli came back to crop eventually but
the rest did not.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

When I was young, in nineteen hundred and frozen to death, the organic way to deal with cabbage white caterpillars was to employ small boys at the rate of a penny per dozen picked.

echinosum 03-08-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David in Normandy[_8_] (Post 965917)
Are there any natural
remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and squishing them all?

You can train birds to eat them. Chickens love them, but would eat your veg too. I read of someone putting convenient perching posts among their veg to attract wild birds to eat them. Though they might also be convenient for the kind of birds that would eat your veg.

Baz[_3_] 03-08-2012 04:27 PM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
David Hill wrote in news:a820ugFrqjU2
@mid.individual.net:

On 03/08/2012 13:57, Baz wrote:
David in Normandy wrote in
r:

On 03/08/2012 13:33, mogga wrote:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:10:55 GMT, Baz wrote:

mogga wrote in
:

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:51:20 +0200, David in Normandy
wrote:

Cabbage white butterflies have found my brassicas hidden amongst
the marigolds and they are heaving with caterpillars. Are there
any natural remedies other than wearing rubber gloves and
squishing them all?


Bare hands?
Put them in a jam jar and drown them?

How can you drown a creature? A quick death is better, well I think
so.

It is but if pounding them to a pulp isn't an option ... what else

is
there? Release them into the wild miles away from your cabbages.


I'll parcel them all up with a few cabbage leaves and mail them to

Baz
to look after on his brassicas. ;-)

Looks like the only practical solution is to continue the yucky job

of
squishing them or using a pyrethrum based spray as mentioned
elsewhere.


Gosh! You are all too smart for me.
Now, I wonder if I should drown that cat..........

Why not.
just grab it by the scruff of the neck and hold it in a bucket of

water,
winner takes all.
And I know where my money would be


A fool and his money arre easily parted.

No Name 03-08-2012 11:22 PM

Any organic solutions against caterpillars?
 
mogga wrote:
How can you drown a creature? A quick death is better, well I think so.

It is but if pounding them to a pulp isn't an option ... what else is
there? Release them into the wild miles away from your cabbages.


I drop them in the chicken run. If they're quick, they have a chance
to escape! Plus it's vaguely entertaining to watch the chickens play
caterpillar-tag.


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