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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
"Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Martin Brown" wrote in message ... Actually for the Mail that is a fairly balanced article. There isn't enough awareness among chicken owning public of the welfare requirements of hens when kept as garden pets/lifestyle accessories. -- I totally agree. Suddenly over the past year or two it's become fashionable to keep a few chickens. I've kept them since the early 70's and was considered a bit eccentric for having them. The forums are full of "what is wrong with my hen?" and "I only didn't shut them up one night at dusk because of (add office party or whatever) and the fox got them all" And all the other newbies rush in with sympathy and oh what bad luck posts. Then they get incubators and it's all very thrilling when the chicks hatch until they realise that 50% are males and they haven't made a plan for that. Tina, I know you are an authority on chickens. Would you consider writing up all the important points that a newby would need to know to start? I would love to have that!! First buy a 6 x 4 shed and not an Omlet stupid thing for hundreds. Second don't think you don't have foxes - you do. If you are thinking of starting with chickens yourself just mail me if you need advice. No, I wouldn't write up the important points, those are freely available in magazines and the internet. It's up to the person who decides to keep hens to do their research before they get them. You are asking me to make it easy. I won't. Tina |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Martin Brown" wrote in message ... Actually for the Mail that is a fairly balanced article. There isn't enough awareness among chicken owning public of the welfare requirements of hens when kept as garden pets/lifestyle accessories. -- I totally agree. Suddenly over the past year or two it's become fashionable to keep a few chickens. I've kept them since the early 70's and was considered a bit eccentric for having them. The forums are full of "what is wrong with my hen?" and "I only didn't shut them up one night at dusk because of (add office party or whatever) and the fox got them all" And all the other newbies rush in with sympathy and oh what bad luck posts. Then they get incubators and it's all very thrilling when the chicks hatch until they realise that 50% are males and they haven't made a plan for that. Tina, I know you are an authority on chickens. Would you consider writing up all the important points that a newby would need to know to start? I would love to have that!! First buy a 6 x 4 shed and not an Omlet stupid thing for hundreds. Second don't think you don't have foxes - you do. If you are thinking of starting with chickens yourself just mail me if you need advice. No, I wouldn't write up the important points, those are freely available in magazines and the internet. It's up to the person who decides to keep hens to do their research before they get them. You are asking me to make it easy. I won't. Apologies. I assumed that you with all your knowledge would be a good place to begin research. I won't bother you again. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Martin Brown" wrote in message ... Actually for the Mail that is a fairly balanced article. There isn't enough awareness among chicken owning public of the welfare requirements of hens when kept as garden pets/lifestyle accessories. -- I totally agree. Suddenly over the past year or two it's become fashionable to keep a few chickens. I've kept them since the early 70's and was considered a bit eccentric for having them. The forums are full of "what is wrong with my hen?" and "I only didn't shut them up one night at dusk because of (add office party or whatever) and the fox got them all" And all the other newbies rush in with sympathy and oh what bad luck posts. Then they get incubators and it's all very thrilling when the chicks hatch until they realise that 50% are males and they haven't made a plan for that. Tina, I know you are an authority on chickens. Would you consider writing up all the important points that a newby would need to know to start? I would love to have that!! First buy a 6 x 4 shed and not an Omlet stupid thing for hundreds. Second don't think you don't have foxes - you do. If you are thinking of starting with chickens yourself just mail me if you need advice. No, I wouldn't write up the important points, those are freely available in magazines and the internet. It's up to the person who decides to keep hens to do their research before they get them. You are asking me to make it easy. I won't. Apologies. I assumed that you with all your knowledge would be a good place to begin research. I won't bother you again. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
Martin wrote:
Lot's of houses (including mine) have covenants in the deeds forbidding the keeping of poultry. I had a third floor flat in Cwmbran where keeping pigs was specifically forbidden. Did you try it anyhow? (you could probably keep pigs in some of the rooms in our house and never find them again) |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
wrote in message ... Martin wrote: Lot's of houses (including mine) have covenants in the deeds forbidding the keeping of poultry. I had a third floor flat in Cwmbran where keeping pigs was specifically forbidden. Did you try it anyhow? (you could probably keep pigs in some of the rooms in our house and never find them again) When we had our house out in the country, we could keep half a pig. When we had our big garden in Leicester they wouldn't let me keep chickens, but 'We will give you planning permission for houses if you like'. I did! Mike -- .................................... I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight. .................................... |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
In message , Christina Websell
writes "Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Martin Brown" wrote in message ... Actually for the Mail that is a fairly balanced article. There isn't enough awareness among chicken owning public of the welfare requirements of hens when kept as garden pets/lifestyle accessories. -- I totally agree. Suddenly over the past year or two it's become fashionable to keep a few chickens. I've kept them since the early 70's and was considered a bit eccentric for having them. The forums are full of "what is wrong with my hen?" and "I only didn't shut them up one night at dusk because of (add office party or whatever) and the fox got them all" And all the other newbies rush in with sympathy and oh what bad luck posts. Then they get incubators and it's all very thrilling when the chicks hatch until they realise that 50% are males and they haven't made a plan for that. Tina, I know you are an authority on chickens. Would you consider writing up all the important points that a newby would need to know to start? I would love to have that!! First buy a 6 x 4 shed and not an Omlet stupid thing for hundreds. Second don't think you don't have foxes - you do. If you are thinking of starting with chickens yourself just mail me if you need advice. No, I wouldn't write up the important points, those are freely available in magazines and the internet. It's up to the person who decides to keep hens to do their research before they get them. You are asking me to make it easy. I won't. Tina To that I would ad - Don't think you don't have rats - you do. -- bert |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
In message , Sacha
writes On 2012-11-21 21:36:00 +0000, "Christina Websell" said: "Ophelia" wrote in message ... snip Tina, I know you are an authority on chickens. Would you consider writing up all the important points that a newby would need to know to start? I would love to have that!! First buy a 6 x 4 shed and not an Omlet stupid thing for hundreds. Second don't think you don't have foxes - you do. If you are thinking of starting with chickens yourself just mail me if you need advice. No, I wouldn't write up the important points, those are freely available in magazines and the internet. It's up to the person who decides to keep hens to do their research before they get them. You are asking me to make it easy. I won't. Tina Nobody is asking you to make it easy, imo. This is a group to which people come for help and advice and you're refusing to give it here. You are very hard, always, on people who want to keep a few hens so why not help them to do it properly - as you see it? If we didn't already have our dozen chooks and were looking to start with a few, I'd think your reply was intended to stop others doing what you enjoy and at which you like to appear to excel. That's not what any of us who garden do here, so why do you feel it right to do that to others who wish to keep hens? Ophelia's was a civil request for assistance from you who talk quite a lot about how others don't get it right but now refuse to tell them how they *should* get it right. Bit smug and unkind both to would-be chicken owners and the chickens who won't now benefit from your personal belief in your own 'expertise'. You seem to spend a lot of time telling people how much you know about something and then treating them as idiots. As a result, there is little point in reading your posts in future, so I won't bother. Net nanny rides again. -- bert |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
"bert" ] wrote in message ... In message , Sacha writes On 2012-11-21 21:36:00 +0000, "Christina Websell" said: "Ophelia" wrote in message ... snip Tina, I know you are an authority on chickens. Would you consider writing up all the important points that a newby would need to know to start? I would love to have that!! First buy a 6 x 4 shed and not an Omlet stupid thing for hundreds. Second don't think you don't have foxes - you do. If you are thinking of starting with chickens yourself just mail me if you need advice. No, I wouldn't write up the important points, those are freely available in magazines and the internet. It's up to the person who decides to keep hens to do their research before they get them. You are asking me to make it easy. I won't. Tina Nobody is asking you to make it easy, imo. This is a group to which people come for help and advice and you're refusing to give it here. You are very hard, always, on people who want to keep a few hens so why not help them to do it properly - as you see it? If we didn't already have our dozen chooks and were looking to start with a few, I'd think your reply was intended to stop others doing what you enjoy and at which you like to appear to excel. That's not what any of us who garden do here, so why do you feel it right to do that to others who wish to keep hens? Ophelia's was a civil request for assistance from you who talk quite a lot about how others don't get it right but now refuse to tell them how they *should* get it right. Bit smug and unkind both to would-be chicken owners and the chickens who won't now benefit from your personal belief in your own 'expertise'. You seem to spend a lot of time telling people how much you know about something and then treating them as idiots. As a result, there is little point in reading your posts in future, so I won't bother. Net nanny rides again. -- bert Have I treated anyone as an idiot? If so I apologise. I have offered help to Ophelia if she wants to get chickens. I don't remember upsetting Sacha but maybe I did. so now she doesn't want to see my posts It's ridiculous. |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
"bert" ] wrote in message ... In message , Christina Websell writes "Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Martin Brown" wrote in message ... Actually for the Mail that is a fairly balanced article. There isn't enough awareness among chicken owning public of the welfare requirements of hens when kept as garden pets/lifestyle accessories. -- I totally agree. Suddenly over the past year or two it's become fashionable to keep a few chickens. I've kept them since the early 70's and was considered a bit eccentric for having them. The forums are full of "what is wrong with my hen?" and "I only didn't shut them up one night at dusk because of (add office party or whatever) and the fox got them all" And all the other newbies rush in with sympathy and oh what bad luck posts. Then they get incubators and it's all very thrilling when the chicks hatch until they realise that 50% are males and they haven't made a plan for that. Tina, I know you are an authority on chickens. Would you consider writing up all the important points that a newby would need to know to start? I would love to have that!! First buy a 6 x 4 shed and not an Omlet stupid thing for hundreds. Second don't think you don't have foxes - you do. If you are thinking of starting with chickens yourself just mail me if you need advice. No, I wouldn't write up the important points, those are freely available in magazines and the internet. It's up to the person who decides to keep hens to do their research before they get them. You are asking me to make it easy. I won't. Tina To that I would ad - Don't think you don't have rats - you do. -- Yep, if you keep chickens you will get rats. |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
"Martin" wrote in message news On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:23:31 +0000, bert ] wrote: In message , Martin Brown writes On 20/11/2012 12:22, Martin wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:48:53 -0000, "David WE Roberts" wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...isk-poultry-fa rms-garden-flocks.html "Study co-author Iveta Karabozhilova called for greater regulation of back garden chickens and more communication between householders and health officials." I thought it was Labour who wanted to legislate everything. If there are 500,000 people keeping chickens then applying regulations to them isn't going to be easy or cheap (cheep?). No doubt this will also roll over to allotments. No doubt this is more rubbish from the Daily Mail. Actually for the Mail that is a fairly balanced article. There isn't enough awareness among chicken owning public of the welfare requirements of hens when kept as garden pets/lifestyle accessories. Lot's of houses (including mine) have covenants in the deeds forbidding the keeping of poultry. I had a third floor flat in Cwmbran where keeping pigs was specifically forbidden. -- Martin I can keep pigs if I want to, my deeds say so. I don't want to. They are scary because I cannot read them. I cannot tell whether or not they are going to be annoyed. A friend of mine got his thigh muscle ripped out by a pig. That's affected my perception of them. Tina |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
wrote in message ... Martin wrote: Lot's of houses (including mine) have covenants in the deeds forbidding the keeping of poultry. I had a third floor flat in Cwmbran where keeping pigs was specifically forbidden. Did you try it anyhow? (you could probably keep pigs in some of the rooms in our house and never find them again) lol you are funny) -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
wrote in message ... Martin wrote: Lot's of houses (including mine) have covenants in the deeds forbidding the keeping of poultry. I had a third floor flat in Cwmbran where keeping pigs was specifically forbidden. Did you try it anyhow? (you could probably keep pigs in some of the rooms in our house and never find them again) lol you are funny) -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
"Martin" wrote in message news On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:00:24 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: lol you are funny) You can say that again and again and ... .... and again if you like ... -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
Martin wrote:
(you could probably keep pigs in some of the rooms in our house and never find them again) LOL here too before the children grew up and left home. Surprisingly, the boys' bedroom is the only tidy one atm. (Although that is helped by me scraping up all the bits of toilet paper Daniel had spread over his floor yesterday) |
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Yet more proposed regulation - chickens this time
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:38:17 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: "Martin" wrote in message news On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:00:24 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: lol you are funny) You can say that again and again and ... ... and again if you like ... There's no stopping you some days. Eeeeeeeeh lad! When ahh get the bit between me teeth ... -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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