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David.WE.Roberts 18-01-2013 02:03 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
Having read recommendations to use Niger seed I have just bought some.

The seed is so fine I doubt it will stay in my cheap and cheerful vertical
plastic tube.

I can see specialist Niger feeders on line.

Any recommendations?

Cheers

Dave R


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Mike Coon[_2_] 18-01-2013 02:16 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
David.WE.Roberts wrote:
Having read recommendations to use Niger seed I have just bought some.

The seed is so fine I doubt it will stay in my cheap and cheerful
vertical plastic tube.

I can see specialist Niger feeders on line.

Any recommendations?

Cheers

Dave R


I don't know of one that the finches will not spill as much as they eat. So
my recommendation is to ensure that you can attach a large tray to catch
spillage. Then (e.g.) woodpigeons will keep the tray cleared...

Mike.
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[email protected] 18-01-2013 03:23 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
On 18 Jan 2013 14:03:32 GMT, "David.WE.Roberts"
wrote:

Having read recommendations to use Niger seed I have just bought some.

The seed is so fine I doubt it will stay in my cheap and cheerful vertical
plastic tube.

I can see specialist Niger feeders on line.

Any recommendations?


I use a droll yankee one mounted on a pole but it could hung from the
top, I choose the twenty perch one as Goldfinches often come in large
numbers but shorter ones will work just as well.
Niger seed is so fine that even with the tiny slit holes in a Niger
feeder some still gets dropped. A catch tray is a must. Most sold by
the various feeder makers are way overpriced IMHO. A large plastic pot
plant saucer drilled in the middle and a number of drainage holes is
far cheaper if you have the tools.
G.Harman

Graham Harrison[_2_] 18-01-2013 03:24 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 

"Mike Coon" wrote in message
o.uk...
David.WE.Roberts wrote:
Having read recommendations to use Niger seed I have just bought some.

The seed is so fine I doubt it will stay in my cheap and cheerful
vertical plastic tube.

I can see specialist Niger feeders on line.

Any recommendations?

Cheers

Dave R


I don't know of one that the finches will not spill as much as they eat.
So my recommendation is to ensure that you can attach a large tray to
catch spillage. Then (e.g.) woodpigeons will keep the tray cleared...

Mike.
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This one
http://www.google.co.uk/products/cat...=0CHoQ8wIwCDgK

the "Cranswick Pet Products All Seasons Nyger Feeder" seems to suit my
goldfinches. As Mike said either be prepared for spillage or attach a
tray.

Filling it can be a little fiddly. The whole tube is drilled with lots of
tiny holes. The manufacturer includes a plastic insert which you insert,
fill the tube and then remove. However, you'll still get some leakage as
you remove the insert and I've found that holding the feeder without the
insert over the box I keep the seed in and simply filling it like any other
feeder results in much quicker filling and the spillage/leakage that occurs
then falls back into the box.


Bill Grey 18-01-2013 04:03 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 

"David.WE.Roberts" wrote in message
...
Having read recommendations to use Niger seed I have just bought some.

The seed is so fine I doubt it will stay in my cheap and cheerful vertical
plastic tube.

I can see specialist Niger feeders on line.

Any recommendations?

Cheers

Dave R


--
Pan in Vista on second Vista PC.


Good luck with your Niger/Nyger seed feeder I haven't seen a single finch
on mine - total waste of money.

Bill



Mike Coon[_2_] 18-01-2013 05:36 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
Bill Grey wrote:
Good luck with your Niger/Nyger seed feeder I haven't seen a single
finch on mine - total waste of money.

Bill


I have to admit mine was never popular. On the other hand the teazels get
used each autumn/winter and they come free. A bit of a long-term project,
though...

(BTW I notice that more than usual have been sprouting while still upright
on their stems in this damp summer. That was how I initially found one in
the countryside to take home and plant!)

Mike.
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Anne Burgess 18-01-2013 05:46 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
Good luck with your Niger/Nyger seed feeder I haven't seen a
single finch on mine - total waste of money.
Bill


It took quite a while with mine before the Goldfinches found it.
Now they're here in large numbers every day, and other birds
also eat the Nyjer.

Anne



[email protected] 18-01-2013 05:52 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:36:25 -0000, "Mike Coon"
wrote:

Bill Grey wrote:
Good luck with your Niger/Nyger seed feeder I haven't seen a single
finch on mine - total waste of money.

Bill


I have to admit mine was never popular. On the other hand the teazels get
used each autumn/winter and they come free.


I "refill" some well pecked teasels with a sprinkling of Nyger seed.

Finches seem to like it.

G.Harman

rbel[_2_] 18-01-2013 07:15 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
On 18 Jan 2013 14:03:32 GMT, "David.WE.Roberts"
wrote:

Having read recommendations to use Niger seed I have just bought some.

The seed is so fine I doubt it will stay in my cheap and cheerful vertical
plastic tube.

I can see specialist Niger feeders on line.

Any recommendations?


If you know that you have Goldfinches in the area then go for Droll
Yankee, if not I suggest that you buy a cheaper, perhaps plastic,
feeder to start with and when it wears out replace it with a Droll
Yankee.
--
rbel

[email protected] 18-01-2013 07:26 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:20:51 -0000, Janet wrote:

In article , damduck-
says...



I "refill" some well pecked teasels with a sprinkling of Nyger seed.

Finches seem to like it.


How do you get the seeds to stick/stay in? (I've got some teazel
skeletons in the garden).


I just drop them over like you would hundreds and thousands on a cake.
Enough seem to drop in far enough to stay, I do buy my seed in a 25kg
sack so may a bit more liberal with it than I should.

G.Harman

Pam Moore[_2_] 18-01-2013 10:05 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:03:21 -0000, "Bill Grey"
wrote:


"David.WE.Roberts" wrote in message
...
Having read recommendations to use Niger seed I have just bought some.

The seed is so fine I doubt it will stay in my cheap and cheerful vertical
plastic tube.

I can see specialist Niger feeders on line.

Any recommendations?

Cheers

Dave R


--
Pan in Vista on second Vista PC.


Good luck with your Niger/Nyger seed feeder I haven't seen a single finch
on mine - total waste of money.

Bill

I also bought some niger seed, filled the feeder and waited..........
After a week the feeder was still full.
I emptied the seed out into a bag to give to a friend who does have
finches and refilled the tube with seed mix.
I looked up niger seed to see what it would grow into and it is a
boring coltsfoot/dandelion-looking type of flower. I wasted my money!

Pam in Bristol

kay 19-01-2013 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Moore[_2_] (Post 976930)
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I also bought some niger seed, filled the feeder and waited..........
After a week the feeder was still full.
I emptied the seed out into a bag to give to a friend who does have
finches and refilled the tube with seed mix.
I looked up niger seed to see what it would grow into and it is a
boring coltsfoot/dandelion-looking type of flower. I wasted my money!

You were far too impatient! Three weeks is a more sensible time to allow for a goldfinch who doesn't normally visit your garden to stray off route, pluck up courage to investigate something that doesn't look like his normal source of food, and then incorporate it into his regular route.

It took my finches a couple of weeks, and they were visiting regularly for the lavender. Now they are part of the garden furniture - it's difficult to be in the garden without seeing them.

You could try kibbled sunflower hearts. They are liked by goldfinches (in some areas of the country, preferred to nyger) but taken by other species.

Sacha[_10_] 19-01-2013 10:59 AM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
On 2013-01-18 17:46:00 +0000, Anne Burgess said:


Good luck with your Niger/Nyger seed feeder I haven't seen a single
finch on mine - total waste of money.
Bill


It took quite a while with mine before the Goldfinches found it. Now
they're here in large numbers every day, and other birds also eat the
Nyjer.

Anne


We've had a Nyger feeder up for two years and I think the squirrels
probably take the seed. I've never seen a single finch on it. But they
come to the garden towards the end of summer.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Roger Tonkin[_2_] 19-01-2013 12:09 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
In article 6ihjf8lenm8lmlmdk08ajtsvurlohoon11@
4ax.com, says...
Good luck with your Niger/Nyger seed feeder I

haven't seen a single finch
on mine - total waste of money.

Bill

I also bought some niger seed, filled the feeder and waited..........
After a week the feeder was still full.
I emptied the seed out into a bag to give to a friend who does have
finches and refilled the tube with seed mix.
I looked up niger seed to see what it would grow into and it is a
boring coltsfoot/dandelion-looking type of flower. I wasted my money!

Pam in Bristol


I bought some niger in the spring, and during the
summer, goldfinches and siskins devoured it regularly.
Since about September, they not touched it at all. I
was wondering if the local birds had migrated south,
and we've now got a northern bunch that do not know
about niger? Certainly I've not seen any siskins
about, but there are plenty of goldfinches, mixed in
with the chaffinches, sparrows tits etc, but they only
eat the sunflower seed/mealworm mix I put out.

--
Roger T

700 ft up in Mid-Wales

Bill Grey 19-01-2013 01:03 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 

"Bill Grey" wrote in message
...

"David.WE.Roberts" wrote in message
...
Having read recommendations to use Niger seed I have just bought some.

The seed is so fine I doubt it will stay in my cheap and cheerful
vertical
plastic tube.

I can see specialist Niger feeders on line.

Any recommendations?

Cheers

Dave R


--
Pan in Vista on second Vista PC.


Good luck with your Niger/Nyger seed feeder I haven't seen a single finch
on mine - total waste of money.

Bill

Would you believe it? Having just written the above, a Coal Tit was seen
feeding on my Nyger seed feeder. Hopefully he will atract others.

Bill



Bill Grey 19-01-2013 01:06 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 

"Janet" wrote in message
...
In article , damduck-
says...



I "refill" some well pecked teasels with a sprinkling of Nyger seed.

Finches seem to like it.


How do you get the seeds to stick/stay in? (I've got some teazel
skeletons in the garden).


Janet


I wonder if it is feasible for you to coat the teasels with some olive oil
applied by rubbing an oily hand oer the skeletons. The nyger seed should
stick to that.

Bill



Mike Coon[_2_] 19-01-2013 01:38 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
Bill Grey wrote:
I wonder if it is feasible for you to coat the teasels with some
olive oil applied by rubbing an oily hand oer the skeletons. The
nyger seed should stick to that.

Bill


Even better might be a cook's oil-spray basting device...

Mike.
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Bill Grey 19-01-2013 03:48 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 

"Mike Coon" wrote in message
...
Bill Grey wrote:
I wonder if it is feasible for you to coat the teasels with some
olive oil applied by rubbing an oily hand oer the skeletons. The
nyger seed should stick to that.

Bill


Even better might be a cook's oil-spray basting device...

Mike.
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Certainly less messy

Bill



David Hill 19-01-2013 04:10 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
On 19/01/2013 15:48, Bill Grey wrote:
"Mike Coon" wrote in message
...
Bill Grey wrote:
I wonder if it is feasible for you to coat the teasels with some
olive oil applied by rubbing an oily hand oer the skeletons. The
nyger seed should stick to that.

Bill


Even better might be a cook's oil-spray basting device...

Mike.
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Certainly less messy

Bill


Just mix the seed with a little melted lard and work that into the
teasel heads.

Bill Grey 19-01-2013 06:49 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 

"David Hill" wrote in message
...
On 19/01/2013 15:48, Bill Grey wrote:
"Mike Coon" wrote in message
...
Bill Grey wrote:
I wonder if it is feasible for you to coat the teasels with some
olive oil applied by rubbing an oily hand oer the skeletons. The
nyger seed should stick to that.

Bill

Even better might be a cook's oil-spray basting device...

Mike.
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Certainly less messy

Bill


Just mix the seed with a little melted lard and work that into the teasel
heads.


I would have thought nyger seed are too fine for this sort of trreatment,
but it is one way of dealing with the task.

Bill



Christina Websell 20-01-2013 12:49 AM

Niger feeder recommendation
 

"Anne Burgess" wrote in message
...
Good luck with your Niger/Nyger seed feeder I haven't seen a single
finch on mine - total waste of money.
Bill


It took quite a while with mine before the Goldfinches found it. Now
they're here in large numbers every day, and other birds also eat the
Nyjer.

Anne

I never had much luck with nyger.
I carry on with canary seed/sunflower hearts 50/50 mix. Very popular with
all tits and finches.
I have a thingie that chops up peanuts - it's a chilli cutter but it makes
peanuts into crumbs for the robins and the blackbirds like them too along
with sultanas. Robins will never starve here, they get into my chicken run
and eat the layers pellets.





Jeff Layman[_2_] 20-01-2013 10:01 AM

Niger feeder recommendation
 
On 19/01/2013 09:50, kay wrote:

'Pam Moore[_2_ Wrote:
;976930']

I also bought some niger seed, filled the feeder and waited..........
After a week the feeder was still full.
I emptied the seed out into a bag to give to a friend who does have
finches and refilled the tube with seed mix.
I looked up niger seed to see what it would grow into and it is a
boring coltsfoot/dandelion-looking type of flower. I wasted my money!


You were far too impatient! Three weeks is a more sensible time to allow
for a goldfinch who doesn't normally visit your garden to stray off
route, pluck up courage to investigate something that doesn't look like
his normal source of food, and then incorporate it into his regular
route.

It took my finches a couple of weeks, and they were visiting regularly
for the lavender. Now they are part of the garden furniture - it's
difficult to be in the garden without seeing them.[/i][/color]

Spot on. They are somewhat shy little birds who are wary of anything
new at first. But once one (and it only takes one...) has found the
feeder it will come back and will attract others. We had 6 fighting to
get on our 2-station feeder in the front garden a couple of days ago.
They were generally ignoring the feeder in the back garden, but
occasionally that gets a couple of goldfinches.

Occasionally the odd sparrow or blue tit will visit the niger feeders,
but they soon lose interest.

--

Jeff

Graham Harrison[_2_] 20-01-2013 05:14 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 

"Jeff Layman" wrote in message
...
On 19/01/2013 09:50, kay wrote:

'Pam Moore[_2_ Wrote:
;976930']

I also bought some niger seed, filled the feeder and waited..........
After a week the feeder was still full.
I emptied the seed out into a bag to give to a friend who does have
finches and refilled the tube with seed mix.
I looked up niger seed to see what it would grow into and it is a
boring coltsfoot/dandelion-looking type of flower. I wasted my money!


You were far too impatient! Three weeks is a more sensible time to allow
for a goldfinch who doesn't normally visit your garden to stray off
route, pluck up courage to investigate something that doesn't look like
his normal source of food, and then incorporate it into his regular
route.

It took my finches a couple of weeks, and they were visiting regularly
for the lavender. Now they are part of the garden furniture - it's
difficult to be in the garden without seeing them.


Spot on. They are somewhat shy little birds who are wary of anything new
at first. But once one (and it only takes one...) has found the feeder it
will come back and will attract others. We had 6 fighting to get on our
2-station feeder in the front garden a couple of days ago. They were
generally ignoring the feeder in the back garden, but occasionally that
gets a couple of goldfinches.

Occasionally the odd sparrow or blue tit will visit the niger feeders, but
they soon lose interest.

--

Jeff[/i][/color]

Shy? I'll agree it took a while for the goldfinches to discover my niger.
Even then they were irregular visitors but last year I started using
sunflower seed as well and now they are regular visitors using both the
niger and sunflower feeders. But shy? I don't think so. Stolid is a
word I'd use. They take up residence of a perch of a feeder and get stuck
in, stop for a rest, carry on, have another rest, etc. All this time other
small birds are appearing and trying to take up residence. A lot of the
time the goldfinches simply ignore the intruders, occasionally they stretch
a wing to persuade another bird to back off. They only retreat when a
starling appears. The local woodpecker has a similar approach - gets stuck
into the peanuts and won't allow anyone else on "his" feeder.


kay 20-01-2013 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Harrison[_2_] (Post 977052)
Shy? I'll agree it took a while for the goldfinches to discover my niger.
Even then they were irregular visitors but last year I started using
sunflower seed as well and now they are regular visitors using both the
niger and sunflower feeders. But shy? I don't think so. Stolid is a
word I'd use. They take up residence of a perch of a feeder and get stuck
in, stop for a rest, carry on, have another rest, etc. All this time other
small birds are appearing and trying to take up residence. A lot of the
time the goldfinches simply ignore the intruders, occasionally they stretch
a wing to persuade another bird to back off. They only retreat when a
starling appears. The local woodpecker has a similar approach - gets stuck
into the peanuts and won't allow anyone else on "his" feeder.

Yes, that's my experience too - the goldfinches won't bother to leave the feeder unless you're closer than about 10ft, and even then they' hang around in the nearest small tree till you get out of the way. The only things that glue themselves more firmly to a feeder are greenfinches, who will stay a good 15 mins (although they're a bit more nervous about humans)

Long tailed tits are even tamer - it's easy to find yourself in the middle of a flock, with the nearest birds only 3-4 ft away.

Christina Websell 23-01-2013 09:05 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 

rbel wrote in message ...
On 18 Jan 2013 14:03:32 GMT, "David.WE.Roberts"
wrote:

Having read recommendations to use Niger seed I have just bought some.

The seed is so fine I doubt it will stay in my cheap and cheerful vertical
plastic tube.

I can see specialist Niger feeders on line.

Any recommendations?


If you know that you have Goldfinches in the area then go for Droll
Yankee, if not I suggest that you buy a cheaper, perhaps plastic,
feeder to start with and when it wears out replace it with a Droll
Yankee.
--
rbel


?? What is a Droll Yankee?




Graham Harrison[_2_] 23-01-2013 11:06 PM

Niger feeder recommendation
 

"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...

rbel wrote in message ...
On 18 Jan 2013 14:03:32 GMT, "David.WE.Roberts"
wrote:

Having read recommendations to use Niger seed I have just bought some.

The seed is so fine I doubt it will stay in my cheap and cheerful
vertical
plastic tube.

I can see specialist Niger feeders on line.

Any recommendations?


If you know that you have Goldfinches in the area then go for Droll
Yankee, if not I suggest that you buy a cheaper, perhaps plastic,
feeder to start with and when it wears out replace it with a Droll
Yankee.
--
rbel


?? What is a Droll Yankee?


they make bird feeders http://www.drollyankees.com/




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