On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:36:47 +0100, Martin wrote:

It's a fairly trivial routine operation. The surgeon who did my
cataracts 16 years ago had already done 4,000 cataract operations,
when he did mine. The main risk is infection.

Yep, its local anthestic a day hospital job in many parts of the less
developed world. Do one eye, come back next week/month get the other eye
done... I suspect this is a very basic "cure" popping out the old cloudy
lens and popping in a rigid standard replacement. You then get glasses to
"match" the new lenses to your eyes.

I wouldn't be surprised if more advanced treatment allow for the
replacement lens to be matched to the eye and be flexable so you still
have variable focus.

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Cheers
Dave.

On 15/02/2013 20:32, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:36:47 +0100, Martin wrote:

It's a fairly trivial routine operation. The surgeon who did my
cataracts 16 years ago had already done 4,000 cataract operations,
when he did mine. The main risk is infection.

Yep, its local anthestic a day hospital job in many parts of the less
developed world. Do one eye, come back next week/month get the other eye
done... I suspect this is a very basic "cure" popping out the old cloudy
lens and popping in a rigid standard replacement. You then get glasses to
"match" the new lenses to your eyes.

I wouldn't be surprised if more advanced treatment allow for the
replacement lens to be matched to the eye and be flexable so you still
have variable focus.

I think you want to update your facts.
In many the ophthalmic departments of many UK hospitals they are doing
Cataract operations as a day surgery procedure/
You say about about the replacement lens being matched to the eye, I'm
not sure what you mean by this, if you are referring to eye colour then
there is no matching to do as the lens is clear, all the colour of the
eye is in the Iris.
You might find this of interest
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Catarac...roduction.aspx
David @ the drought stricken end of Swansea Bay where we have now been
without rain for almost 2 days.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:58:26 +0000, David Hill
wrote:


David @ the drought stricken end of Swansea Bay where we have now been
without rain for almost 2 days.

Three at this end. The standing water on top of the ground is now
looking positively parched!

Cheers, Jake
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Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes
it's raining and sometimes it's not.

"The Original Jake" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:58:26 +0000, David Hill
wrote:


David @ the drought stricken end of Swansea Bay where we have now been
without rain for almost 2 days.

Three at this end. The standing water on top of the ground is now
looking positively parched!

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes
it's raining and sometimes it's not.

Hosepipe ban on the horizon?

Mike


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On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:36:47 +0100, Martin wrote:

It's a fairly trivial routine operation. The surgeon who did my
cataracts 16 years ago had already done 4,000 cataract operations,
when he did mine. The main risk is infection.

Yep, its local anthestic a day hospital job in many parts of the less
developed world. Do one eye, come back next week/month get the other eye
done... I suspect this is a very basic "cure" popping out the old cloudy
lens and popping in a rigid standard replacement. You then get glasses to
"match" the new lenses to your eyes.

I wouldn't be surprised if more advanced treatment allow for the
replacement lens to be matched to the eye and be flexable so you still
have variable focus.

I was told last summer when I went for my regular eye check-up that I
was developing cataracts and that I would probably need to have an
operation within five years. The ophthalmologist said that lenses can
now be fitted to compensate for long/short sightedness and that I
wouldn't need to have glasses any more.

David

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David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 Martin wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:14:11 +0000, David Rance
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:36:47 +0100, Martin wrote:

It's a fairly trivial routine operation. The surgeon who did my
cataracts 16 years ago had already done 4,000 cataract operations,
when he did mine. The main risk is infection.

Yep, its local anthestic a day hospital job in many parts of the less
developed world. Do one eye, come back next week/month get the other eye
done... I suspect this is a very basic "cure" popping out the old cloudy
lens and popping in a rigid standard replacement. You then get glasses to
"match" the new lenses to your eyes.

I wouldn't be surprised if more advanced treatment allow for the
replacement lens to be matched to the eye and be flexable so you still
have variable focus.

I was told last summer when I went for my regular eye check-up that I
was developing cataracts and that I would probably need to have an
operation within five years. The ophthalmologist said that lenses can
now be fitted to compensate for long/short sightedness and that I
wouldn't need to have glasses any more.

The rate it develops varies. Both my cataracts took less than six
months to fully develop. You will probably need reading glasses
afterwards.

I already have varifocal reading glasses (mid-distance and close). Tried
varifocal to include distance but didn't realise that, when driving, I
tend to hold my head up - so the road ahead suddenly became out of
focus!

I'm hoping that it'll be longer than five years. After all, I can't tell
yet that I'm developing cataracts.

David

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David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:58:26 +0000, David Hill wrote:

You say about about the replacement lens being matched to the eye, I'm
not sure what you mean by this,

Eyes are different sizes thus have differnt focal lengths. Mine a wrong
full stop as I'm shortsighted. But if they swapped the lenses in my eyes
they could fit ones matched to the focal length of my eyes and I may not
need to war glasses all the time.

... if you are referring to eye colour then there is no matching to do
as the lens is clear, all the colour of the eye is in the Iris.

well deeeerrr...

You might find this of interest
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Catarac...roduction.aspx

Good grief dumbed down to the level of a 6 year old.

But only says what I said, it was the third world cateract operation I
decribed not a whizzo first world one. But the basics are the same and I
was right about rigid fixed focus (monofocal) or flexable (accomodating)
lenses.

I can't get me head around how the multifocal lenses work. I wear
varifocal and look through the bottom of them for close work, but I'm
still looking through the center of my eyes lens. How can you look
through a different part of your own eyes lens? Or do you still look
ahead but make your brain concentrate on the lower in focus part of the
whole image you see?

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Cheers
Dave.

In article ,
lid says...
English city where the
average reading age is 7.


Where would that be? With a reference please

Janet

On 16/02/2013 10:59, Janet wrote:
In article ,
lid says...
English city where the
average reading age is 7.


Where would that be? With a reference please

Janet


Somewhere near the 7 bridge?

In article , david@abacus-
nurseries.co.uk says...

On 16/02/2013 10:59, Janet wrote:
In article ,
lid says...
English city where the
average reading age is 7.


Where would that be? With a reference please

Janet


Somewhere near the 7 bridge?

Under it, more like. I've never heard of an adult population having
their reading ages tested/recorded.

Janet.

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:15:44 -0000, Janet wrote:

English city where the average reading age is 7.

Where would that be? With a reference please

Somewhere near the 7 bridge?

Under it, more like. I've never heard of an adult population having
their reading ages tested/recorded.

Some one "clever" probably did a survey of 50 adults on a council sink
estate and extrapolated the results to cover the whole city.

Having said that a google produces many hits which state the UK average
reading age is around 8 or 9. B-(

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Cheers
Dave.

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:15:44 -0000, Janet wrote:

English city where the average reading age is 7.

Where would that be? With a reference please

Somewhere near the 7 bridge?

Under it, more like. I've never heard of an adult population having
their reading ages tested/recorded.

Some one "clever" probably did a survey of 50 adults on a council sink
estate and extrapolated the results to cover the whole city.

Having said that a google produces many hits which state the UK average
reading age is around 8 or 9. B-(

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Cheers
Dave.


That would be the readers of the Daily Mail wouldn't it?

Mike


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In article o.uk,
says...

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:15:44 -0000, Janet wrote:

English city where the average reading age is 7.

Where would that be? With a reference please

Somewhere near the 7 bridge?

Under it, more like. I've never heard of an adult population having
their reading ages tested/recorded.

Some one "clever" probably did a survey of 50 adults on a council sink
estate and extrapolated the results to cover the whole city.

Having said that a google produces many hits which state the UK average
reading age is around 8 or 9. B-(

That's below functional adult literacy so I think it's highly unlikely
to include the adult population. At least, not while current pensioners
are alive, as our cohort has a high literacy rate.

http://www.literacytrust.org.uk/rese..._research/2364
_literacy_state_of_the_nation


Janet

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:15:44 -0000, Janet wrote:

English city where the average reading age is 7.

Where would that be? With a reference please

Somewhere near the 7 bridge?

Under it, more like. I've never heard of an adult population having
their reading ages tested/recorded.

Some one "clever" probably did a survey of 50 adults on a council sink
estate and extrapolated the results to cover the whole city.

Having said that a google produces many hits which state the UK average
reading age is around 8 or 9.

What? Not for my family.

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:32:16 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:36:47 +0100, Martin wrote:

It's a fairly trivial routine operation. The surgeon who did my
cataracts 16 years ago had already done 4,000 cataract operations,
when he did mine. The main risk is infection.

Yep, its local anthestic a day hospital job in many parts of the less
developed world.

Normally local anaesthetic everywhere, unless you have a very long
eyeball in which case total anaesthetic is used. It's about a half day
job even with total anaesthetic.They want you out of the hospital
before you can catch an infection.

Do one eye, come back next week/month get the other eye
done... I suspect this is a very basic "cure" popping out the old cloudy
lens and popping in a rigid standard replacement.

The replacement lens is flexible it is rolled into a cylinder before
being inserted into the eye through a 2-3mm slit just above the iris.

You then get glasses to
"match" the new lenses to your eyes.

I wouldn't be surprised if more advanced treatment allow for the
replacement lens to be matched to the eye and be flexable so you still
have variable focus.

Replacement lenses are matched to the eye, but are not variable focus.

Have you had this operation yourself?