"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2013-05-01 19:48:12 +0100, Jeff Layman said:

On 01/05/2013 17:23, Sacha wrote:


I've also just thought of Schisandra, pink or white.

Schisandra is pretty hardy in my experience. S. grandiflora (red flower)
grew like a weed once it had settled in on Sussex wealden clay, and
showed no problems no matter how low the temperature or how wet the clay
was . It really shouldn't need conservatory treatment to flourish.

I don't think Nick specified that it had to die in the cold. ;-) But it
seems to do better/flower better, in some gardens than others. It's
classified as fully hardy - though I'm without experience of this so I
wonder how it does in cold gardens.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

I would regard most Schisandra's we come across as -30c plants, main draw
back is getting hold of a boy, nearly all plants you come across are girls
and without both you don't get the huge displays of sealing wax red berries
in long hanging chains.
--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk

On 2013-05-01 22:52:44 +0100, Charlie Pridham said:

"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2013-05-01 19:48:12 +0100, Jeff Layman said:

On 01/05/2013 17:23, Sacha wrote:


I've also just thought of Schisandra, pink or white.

Schisandra is pretty hardy in my experience. S. grandiflora (red
flower) grew like a weed once it had settled in on Sussex wealden clay,
and showed no problems no matter how low the temperature or how wet the
clay was . It really shouldn't need conservatory treatment to flourish.

I don't think Nick specified that it had to die in the cold. ;-) But
it seems to do better/flower better, in some gardens than others. It's
classified as fully hardy - though I'm without experience of this so I
wonder how it does in cold gardens.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

I would regard most Schisandra's we come across as -30c plants, main
draw back is getting hold of a boy, nearly all plants you come across
are girls and without both you don't get the huge displays of sealing
wax red berries in long hanging chains.

I'll keep a close eye on ours for displays of promiscuity and will let
you know!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 2013-05-01 23:09:59 +0100, Sacha said:

On 2013-05-01 22:52:44 +0100, Charlie Pridham said:

"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2013-05-01 19:48:12 +0100, Jeff Layman said:

On 01/05/2013 17:23, Sacha wrote:


I've also just thought of Schisandra, pink or white.

Schisandra is pretty hardy in my experience. S. grandiflora (red
flower) grew like a weed once it had settled in on Sussex wealden clay,
and showed no problems no matter how low the temperature or how wet the
clay was . It really shouldn't need conservatory treatment to flourish.

I don't think Nick specified that it had to die in the cold. ;-) But
it seems to do better/flower better, in some gardens than others. It's
classified as fully hardy - though I'm without experience of this so I
wonder how it does in cold gardens.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

I would regard most Schisandra's we come across as -30c plants, main
draw back is getting hold of a boy, nearly all plants you come across
are girls and without both you don't get the huge displays of sealing
wax red berries in long hanging chains.

I'll keep a close eye on ours for displays of promiscuity and will let
you know!

And I don't know why I didn't think of Thunbergia grandiflora. Too much
going on!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

In article ,
Sacha wrote:
On 2013-05-01 19:48:12 +0100, Jeff Layman said:

I've also just thought of Schisandra, pink or white.

Schisandra is pretty hardy in my experience. S. grandiflora (red
flower) grew like a weed once it had settled in on Sussex wealden clay,
and showed no problems no matter how low the temperature or how wet the
clay was . It really shouldn't need conservatory treatment to flourish.

I don't think Nick specified that it had to die in the cold. ;-) But
it seems to do better/flower better, in some gardens than others. It's
classified as fully hardy - though I'm without experience of this so I
wonder how it does in cold gardens.

In mine, it grows perfectly well, but does not flower. It lost
its young shoots in the cold snap 10 days ago, but that's not
going to harm it.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article ,
Charlie Pridham wrote:


You could do worse than Mandevilla laxa, its fast, evergreen (under glass),
and very scented.

Thanks, but that's two hits :-) I particularly want to avoid woody
evergreens, because I would like to take the chance to try to kill
off the mealybug, properly. And my wife doesn't like jasmine scents,
and I believe Mandevilla is similar.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 2013-05-04 10:30:42 +0100, said:

In article ,
Sacha wrote:
On 2013-05-01 19:48:12 +0100, Jeff Layman said:

I've also just thought of Schisandra, pink or white.

Schisandra is pretty hardy in my experience. S. grandiflora (red
flower) grew like a weed once it had settled in on Sussex wealden clay,
and showed no problems no matter how low the temperature or how wet the
clay was . It really shouldn't need conservatory treatment to flourish.

I don't think Nick specified that it had to die in the cold. ;-) But
it seems to do better/flower better, in some gardens than others. It's
classified as fully hardy - though I'm without experience of this so I
wonder how it does in cold gardens.

In mine, it grows perfectly well, but does not flower. It lost
its young shoots in the cold snap 10 days ago, but that's not
going to harm it.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Dregea sinensis, Hoya carnosa?
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Nick wrote


Ah, well. I seemed to have killed my Ipomoea indica - the problem
is that I need to cut it back hard, and (as a tropical evergreen)
it's not very keen on that. This year needed to be particularly
brutal, as we needed to repaint. Never mind, it may give me a
chance to get rid of the mealybug.

But I need to grow some climbers to make the place attractive.
As it is a south-facing conservatory with a proper border (i.e.
down to the subsoil), I have a fairly free hand. I have already
got some Ipomoea alba seedlings growing, but what other tropical
annuals would people suggest?

Colour rather than scent, and they can grow up to 20', but I also
need some that will not grow more than 6'. And I would MUCH
prefer ones that don't need frequent watering (i.e. I would like
ones that can grow in semi-ari d climates and not just humid ones).

My first thought was Dicentra scandens but then I read your wife hates
yellow which is a shame so how about Dicentra scandens Pink Heart, if you
can find it. Has orchid pink blossoms and is hardy


--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
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In article ,
Sacha wrote:

Dregea sinensis, Hoya carnosa?

Thanks. But not this year, because I really want to stick to
annuals in order to see off the mealybug. I don't like using
evil chemicals, but have got some bee-killing stuff. As I am
going to use it only on indoor and container plants pollinated
only by sunbirds, tropical long-proboscis moths and so on, I am
being fairly cautious.

On this matter, I utterly loathe the bureaucratic, political and
marketing attitude that immediate danger to humans is unacceptable
but long-term diffuse harm is fine. What's wrong with nicotine,
used with care? Well, because this infernal monetarist society
won't protect workers from explitation and endangerment :-(


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article ,
Bob Hobden wrote:

My first thought was Dicentra scandens but then I read your wife hates
yellow which is a shame so how about Dicentra scandens Pink Heart, if you
can find it. Has orchid pink blossoms and is hardy

Actually, it's not that. She likes to keep yellow at a distance,
though I have never quite got to the reason. I do sympathise with
her view that spring in the UK is very yellow, because of the
common and very assertive yellow plants (such as the forsythia
next door, daffodils and more).

Dicentra scandens Pink Heart looks interesting for somewhere else,
If I can find it :-(


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 2013-05-05 10:37:24 +0100, said:

In article ,
Sacha wrote:

Dregea sinensis, Hoya carnosa?

Thanks. But not this year, because I really want to stick to
annuals in order to see off the mealybug. I don't like using
evil chemicals, but have got some bee-killing stuff. As I am
going to use it only on indoor and container plants pollinated
only by sunbirds, tropical long-proboscis moths and so on, I am
being fairly cautious.snip

Did you look at Asarina scandens? It's pretty quick growing and
flowering. Or even just sweet peas.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

In article ,
Sacha wrote:

Did you look at Asarina scandens? It's pretty quick growing and
flowering. Or even just sweet peas.

Yes, thanks - seed sown and awaiting :-) It's too hot for sweet
peas on still days with the sun shining. I am growing them, but
for a warm spot outside.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 2013-05-05 12:17:02 +0100, said:

In article ,
Sacha wrote:

Did you look at Asarina scandens? It's pretty quick growing and
flowering. Or even just sweet peas.

Yes, thanks - seed sown and awaiting :-) It's too hot for sweet
peas on still days with the sun shining. I am growing them, but
for a warm spot outside.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Glad you've found a solution until you can replace the Ipomoea. And
this has reminded me that I have to get some Lathyrus matucana seeds!
All our others are sown and well up in their pots but we seem to have
forgotten this one!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Bob Hobden wrote:
My first thought was Dicentra scandens but then I read your wife hates
yellow which is a shame so how about Dicentra scandens Pink Heart, if you
can find it. Has orchid pink blossoms and is hardy

I didn't know you could get dicentra in yellow!
My pink+white one is just coming into flower. They don't last very long
though. :-(

Despite the form of the name, matucana is the variety name not the species. It's still Lathyrus odoratus. One would have thought it had been deliberately chosen to confuse!

Vicky wrote

Bob Hobden wrote:
My first thought was Dicentra scandens but then I read your wife hates
yellow which is a shame so how about Dicentra scandens Pink Heart, if you
can find it. Has orchid pink blossoms and is hardy

I didn't know you could get dicentra in yellow!
My pink+white one is just coming into flower. They don't last very long
though. :-(

I'm sorry to say your Dicentra spectabilis is now Lamprocapnos spectabilis.
The yellow one I mentioned is a climbing Dicentra, there are a few climbing
ones and all seem to be yellow or orangey yellow.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK