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I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
Brassicas have wilted. ALL of them. I don't think it is cabbage root fly
because I have taken precautions, such as collars around them. No Brussels sprouts this year, again. Is there still time to have another go at it this year? Baz |
I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
"Baz" wrote .
Brassicas have wilted. ALL of them. I don't think it is cabbage root fly because I have taken precautions, such as collars around them. No Brussels sprouts this year, again. Is there still time to have another go at it this year? Have you got a proper old nursery near you that grows veg plants? When I have a failure, savoys and winter cabage this year we go and buy the plants. Our local one does strips of 12 for £1.50 so it's hardly worth doing it yourself anyway considering the cost of seed etc.. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
On 18/05/2013 17:55, Bob Hobden wrote:
"Baz" wrote . Brassicas have wilted. ALL of them. I don't think it is cabbage root fly because I have taken precautions, such as collars around them. No Brussels sprouts this year, again. Is there still time to have another go at it this year? Have you got a proper old nursery near you that grows veg plants? When I have a failure, savoys and winter cabage this year we go and buy the plants. Our local one does strips of 12 for £1.50 so it's hardly worth doing it yourself anyway considering the cost of seed etc.. You might also find some at a car boot sale. |
I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
On 2013-05-18 17:55:24 +0100, Bob Hobden said:
"Baz" wrote . Brassicas have wilted. ALL of them. I don't think it is cabbage root fly because I have taken precautions, such as collars around them. No Brussels sprouts this year, again. Is there still time to have another go at it this year? Have you got a proper old nursery near you that grows veg plants? When I have a failure, savoys and winter cabage this year we go and buy the plants. Our local one does strips of 12 for £1.50 so it's hardly worth doing it yourself anyway considering the cost of seed etc.. Amazing how many people are now growing their own veg. At Tucker's particularly, the sales of veg plants are outselling the ornamentals. Perhaps it's the dire cold start to the year that's prompted a lot of people to give up trying to get their own going and to buy baby plants. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
On 18/05/2013 18:14, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-05-18 17:55:24 +0100, Bob Hobden said: "Baz" wrote . Brassicas have wilted. ALL of them. I don't think it is cabbage root fly because I have taken precautions, such as collars around them. No Brussels sprouts this year, again. Is there still time to have another go at it this year? Have you got a proper old nursery near you that grows veg plants? When I have a failure, savoys and winter cabage this year we go and buy the plants. Our local one does strips of 12 for £1.50 so it's hardly worth doing it yourself anyway considering the cost of seed etc.. Amazing how many people are now growing their own veg. At Tucker's particularly, the sales of veg plants are outselling the ornamentals. Perhaps it's the dire cold start to the year that's prompted a lot of people to give up trying to get their own going and to buy baby plants. Well I bought a pack of 6 tomato plants in Lild yesterday, I must say they were the best Tomato plants I've seen for a few years, a good 5 to 6 inches tall, stocky and not dry. |
I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
"Bob Hobden" wrote in
: "Baz" wrote . Brassicas have wilted. ALL of them. I don't think it is cabbage root fly because I have taken precautions, such as collars around them. No Brussels sprouts this year, again. Is there still time to have another go at it this year? Have you got a proper old nursery near you that grows veg plants? When I have a failure, savoys and winter cabage this year we go and buy the plants. Our local one does strips of 12 for £1.50 so it's hardly worth doing it yourself anyway considering the cost of seed etc.. Yes we do. But I wonder if its too late now? I know what you mean, plants v seed. I like to grow from seed, it interests me, don't know why. I will buy some plants and see how it goes. Thanks, Bob Baz |
I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
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: On 2013-05-18 17:55:24 +0100, Bob Hobden said: "Baz" wrote . Brassicas have wilted. ALL of them. I don't think it is cabbage root fly because I have taken precautions, such as collars around them. No Brussels sprouts this year, again. Is there still time to have another go at it this year? Have you got a proper old nursery near you that grows veg plants? When I have a failure, savoys and winter cabage this year we go and buy the plants. Our local one does strips of 12 for £1.50 so it's hardly worth doing it yourself anyway considering the cost of seed etc.. Amazing how many people are now growing their own veg. At Tucker's particularly, the sales of veg plants are outselling the ornamentals. It IS amazing. Fresh veg. are far tastier than shop bought ones. I am glad that folk are comming around to this. We,(family)at home can never go back to shop bought stuff. Only during winter. Perhaps it's the dire cold start to the year that's prompted a lot of people to give up trying to get their own going and to buy baby plants. Yes, that could be it! And I, for one, have done it already this year. It has gone belly up. Another go is on the cards. Fingers and toes crossed. Baz |
I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
It IS amazing. Fresh veg. are far tastier than shop bought ones. I am glad that folk are comming around to this. We,(family)at home can never go back to shop bought stuff. Only during winter. It depends a lot on What you buy more than where you buy it. I have been buying English tomatoes the last couple of months from Tesco, very good flavour but cost more than imported, but well worth it, same for Asparagus, buy British against imported from somewhere like Peru. Then in season why but runner beans from Zambia or Zimbabwe when there are British for sale. the message is READ THE LABEL. |
I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
On 2013-05-19 13:09:38 +0100, David Hill said:
It IS amazing. Fresh veg. are far tastier than shop bought ones. I am glad that folk are comming around to this. We,(family)at home can never go back to shop bought stuff. Only during winter. It depends a lot on What you buy more than where you buy it. I have been buying English tomatoes the last couple of months from Tesco, very good flavour but cost more than imported, but well worth it, same for Asparagus, buy British against imported from somewhere like Peru. Then in season why but runner beans from Zambia or Zimbabwe when there are British for sale. the message is READ THE LABEL. One of the things I find irritating when shopping online is that Tesco rarely put the country of origin on produce. They do tend to say "British" if it is, though. British asparagus beats all others hands down, imo. The last we had was from the Wye valley, David and I can recommend it highly. ;-) Our own crowns, planted as two year olds last year have disappeared entirely. I assume they just rotted away. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
On Sun, 19 May 2013 Sacha wrote:
One of the things I find irritating when shopping online is that Tesco rarely put the country of origin on produce. They do tend to say "British" if it is, though. British asparagus beats all others hands down, imo. The last we had was from the Wye valley, David and I can recommend it highly. ;-) Our own crowns, planted as two year olds last year have disappeared entirely. I assume they just rotted away. I sowed some asparagus seed two years ago and planted them out last year. They grew but the stems were very thin. Would that be normal? We're just about to go over to Normandy to see how they're getting on this year. I wonder if they'll be strong enough to harvest..... David -- David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK |
I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
On 19/05/2013 16:49, David Rance wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2013 Sacha wrote: One of the things I find irritating when shopping online is that Tesco rarely put the country of origin on produce. They do tend to say "British" if it is, though. British asparagus beats all others hands down, imo. The last we had was from the Wye valley, David and I can recommend it highly. ;-) Our own crowns, planted as two year olds last year have disappeared entirely. I assume they just rotted away. I sowed some asparagus seed two years ago and planted them out last year. They grew but the stems were very thin. Would that be normal? We're just about to go over to Normandy to see how they're getting on this year. I wonder if they'll be strong enough to harvest..... David They will take 2 to 3 years to produce good sized spears, and will continue to provide larger ones for several years |
I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
On 19/05/2013 16:49, David Rance wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2013 Sacha wrote: One of the things I find irritating when shopping online is that Tesco rarely put the country of origin on produce. They do tend to say "British" if it is, though. British asparagus beats all others hands down, imo. The last we had was from the Wye valley, David and I can recommend it highly. ;-) Our own crowns, planted as two year olds last year have disappeared entirely. I assume they just rotted away. I sowed some asparagus seed two years ago and planted them out last year. They grew but the stems were very thin. Would that be normal? We're just about to go over to Normandy to see how they're getting on this year. I wonder if they'll be strong enough to harvest..... David Give them time, it is a slow season for a lot of things. I don't know how slugs feel about Asparagus, could they be having then as they break through? Did you build a raised bed for the Asparagus? |
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I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
On 18/05/2013 18:14, David Hill wrote:
On 18/05/2013 17:55, Bob Hobden wrote: "Baz" wrote . Brassicas have wilted. ALL of them. I don't think it is cabbage root fly because I have taken precautions, such as collars around them. No Brussels sprouts this year, again. Is there still time to have another go at it this year? Have you got a proper old nursery near you that grows veg plants? When I have a failure, savoys and winter cabage this year we go and buy the plants. Our local one does strips of 12 for £1.50 so it's hardly worth doing it yourself anyway considering the cost of seed etc.. You might also find some at a car boot sale. Or where ever your local good causes run stalls and do bacon butties and coffees on a Saturday morning for fund raising. In our local market town this is in a hall underneath the council chamber. Different good cause every week and booked up for about 18 months in advance! Always worth a quick look in case some interesting rare plant is on offer at a knock down price. Vegetable seedlings are common too. Some village halls also have a trade or swap your seedling plants day. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
On 19 May 2013, David Hill wrote:
On 19/05/2013 16:49, David Rance wrote: I sowed some asparagus seed two years ago and planted them out last year. They grew but the stems were very thin. Would that be normal? We're just about to go over to Normandy to see how they're getting on this year. I wonder if they'll be strong enough to harvest..... Give them time, it is a slow season for a lot of things. I don't know how slugs feel about Asparagus, could they be having then as they break through? Just had a look at them and they are growing very much more strongly this year. Not quite ready to harvest yet so I'll leave them another year but very encouraging. Did you build a raised bed for the Asparagus? Yes, I planted them out in the way that the old gardening books show you. However the weather here is depressing as, whenever we come over, it is raining and I just can't get out to the meadow to cut the grass. And, by the look of things, it has been very wet here for some time. Can David (in Normandy) or Emery confirm that? Yesterday was a bank holiday and it was mildly amusing on the French news to hear them complaining about the cold damp weather all over France! Even down in the midi! The one bright spot yesterday was that I opened the first bottle of last year's cider and it was very good! My wife's just told me that some of our children, who are spending a few days in Provence, have just texted to say it's warm and sunny! They should be so lucky! David -- David Rance writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France |
I hate to say it, but another unproductive year.
On Tue, 21 May 2013 08:30:02 +0100, David Rance wrote:
However the weather here is depressing as, whenever we come over, it is raining and I just can't get out to the meadow to cut the grass. And, by the look of things, it has been very wet here for some time. Can David (in Normandy) or Emery confirm that? Yesterday was a bank holiday and it was mildly amusing on the French news to hear them complaining about the cold damp weather all over France! Even down in the midi! The weather is bloody awful. I've been able to cut the lawn as I have a mower that doesn't mind the wet, but getting into the field with the tractor is a non-starter as you say. I have a lot of seedlings that are showing signs of damping off unfortunately, and young grafts in pots that have some blacking leaves. We seriously need a few days dry, and above all some warmth. Hay will be good, though... Yes, it has been extremely wet, lots of volume too. The Figaro said today that it isn't likely to change before at least next month. The one bright spot yesterday was that I opened the first bottle of last year's cider and it was very good! Good on you. We made perry for a few years, it was very enjoyable, but the source of pears went away. I'm thinking of planting cider apples, as it happens. Will you be making calvados? My wife's just told me that some of our children, who are spending a few days in Provence, have just texted to say it's warm and sunny! They should be so lucky! My daughter just got back from Salon. The weather was gorgeous, proved by pictures! cheers, -E -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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