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hawthorn woes
Sadly a lovely mature hawthorn in our front garden blew over partially a
couple of weeks ago during the storms. It's just finishing blooming now, and I'm wondering what I can do immediately with it; the branches are blocking a door. My immediate thought was to lighten the crown quite a bit, taking off the lower hanging branches. I don't know if it can be pushed upright, what do people think? Also the spot is difficult to get at with the tractor. Since the trunk is only perhaps 15-20 degrees off of true, my thought is it might be able to stay as is. I should mention that perhaps 10 years ago it blew over, but as it was smaller I was able to get it back into place and stake it. The secondary stakes have been gone for 5 or 6 years now, I thought it was solid... Can I start this major pruning now, or would it be much better to wait for high summer, or indeed winter? It's a bit inconvenient as it is! Thanks for any advice, -E -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
hawthorn woes
"Emery Davis" wrote in message ... Sadly a lovely mature hawthorn in our front garden blew over partially a couple of weeks ago during the storms. It's just finishing blooming now, and I'm wondering what I can do immediately with it; the branches are blocking a door. My immediate thought was to lighten the crown quite a bit, taking off the lower hanging branches. I don't know if it can be pushed upright, what do people think? Also the spot is difficult to get at with the tractor. Since the trunk is only perhaps 15-20 degrees off of true, my thought is it might be able to stay as is. I should mention that perhaps 10 years ago it blew over, but as it was smaller I was able to get it back into place and stake it. The secondary stakes have been gone for 5 or 6 years now, I thought it was solid... Can I start this major pruning now, or would it be much better to wait for high summer, or indeed winter? It's a bit inconvenient as it is! Thanks for any advice, -E -- Gardening in Lower Normandy Its widely used for hedging and gets hacked almost to death and seems to survive, its not know as quickthorn for nothing (the quick referring to being always alive rather than speed of growth) -- Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella and Lapageria rosea cvs http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk |
hawthorn woes
On 28/06/2013 19:02, Emery Davis wrote:
Sadly a lovely mature hawthorn in our front garden blew over partially a couple of weeks ago during the storms. It's just finishing blooming now, and I'm wondering what I can do immediately with it; the branches are blocking a door. My immediate thought was to lighten the crown quite a bit, taking off the lower hanging branches. I don't know if it can be pushed upright, what do people think? Also the spot is difficult to get at with the tractor. Since the trunk is only perhaps 15-20 degrees off of true, my thought is it might be able to stay as is. I should mention that perhaps 10 years ago it blew over, but as it was smaller I was able to get it back into place and stake it. The secondary stakes have been gone for 5 or 6 years now, I thought it was solid... Can I start this major pruning now, or would it be much better to wait for high summer, or indeed winter? It's a bit inconvenient as it is! Thanks for any advice, -E Can you winch it back upright and prop it? |
hawthorn woes
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 22:43:41 +0100, Charlie Pridham wrote:
"Emery Davis" wrote in message ... Sadly a lovely mature hawthorn in our front garden blew over partially a couple of weeks ago during the storms. It's just finishing blooming now, [] Its widely used for hedging and gets hacked almost to death and seems to survive, its not know as quickthorn for nothing (the quick referring to being always alive rather than speed of growth) Thanks Charlie, good to know it's hard to kill. -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 23:00:51 +0100, David Hill wrote:
Can you winch it back upright and prop it? I could try to borrow a winch, but I don't think I could easily get the angle right. There's a 5 foot stone wall just behind it, that forms a square, so the winch would have to be quite far from the tree. I could try and push it upright, but as I said it's difficult to get the tractor into the spot. I'd be tempted to double stake it with 45 degree angle stakes, were I to push it back up. -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
hawthorn woes
Whilst we are talking hawthorns, I have a standard Crataegus
prunifolia which has been in place a couple of years. This spring I have not seen any flowers at all, so it looks like no berries to look forward to this year. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
hawthorn woes
"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... Whilst we are talking hawthorns, I have a standard Crataegus prunifolia which has been in place a couple of years. This spring I have not seen any flowers at all, so it looks like no berries to look forward to this year. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. Mine had all its buds blasted off by something as well, can't decide whether its weather or disease. One of our pear trees is looking very poorly as well -- Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella and Lapageria rosea cvs http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk |
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Everything is late this year. I'm not sure our hawthorn is yet in flower, and our fancy Crataegus sp (can't remember which one) certainly hasn't flowered yet - but it's always later than the hawthorn. |
hawthorn woes
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:02:09 +0000, Emery Davis wrote:
Sadly a lovely mature hawthorn in our front garden blew over partially a couple of weeks ago during the storms. It's just finishing blooming now, and I'm wondering what I can do immediately with it; the branches are blocking a door. My immediate thought was to lighten the crown quite a bit, taking off the lower hanging branches. I don't know if it can be pushed upright, what do people think? Also the spot is difficult to get at with the tractor. Since the trunk is only perhaps 15-20 degrees off of true, my thought is it might be able to stay as is. I should mention that perhaps 10 years ago it blew over, but as it was smaller I was able to get it back into place and stake it. The secondary stakes have been gone for 5 or 6 years now, I thought it was solid... Can I start this major pruning now, or would it be much better to wait for high summer, or indeed winter? It's a bit inconvenient as it is! Thanks for any advice, -E As already noted they can be pruned back brutally and survive. Depending on how far over it is I would have thought a lot of the roots might have torn out of the ground, so reducing the amount of foliage might be a very good thing to do, especially if it remains hot and dryish. Firstly to note that I am not a tree surgeon :-) However if it has blown over it is obviously carrying too much top growth for the roots to hold in place. So logically it should be cut back severely to reduce the overall height to take the weight off the roots, and give them some time to recover and get a grip. If you cut it back quite a lot, you may be able to jack the trunk back upright if you can brace a jack against a stake or some other fairly immoveable object. I assume it will be easier to straighten if it isn't very tall. Cheers Dave R |
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On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:01:37 +0000, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
Depending on how far over it is I would have thought a lot of the roots might have torn out of the ground, so reducing the amount of foliage might be a very good thing to do, especially if it remains hot and dryish. Oddly, there aren't any roots out. But as I said it hasn't really gone over all that much. Firstly to note that I am not a tree surgeon Heh, nor I. Doesn't stop me though! :) However if it has blown over it is obviously carrying too much top growth for the roots to hold in place. Very stony spot, I don't really know how much root its got, except that it has a good top and I don't feed it. Anyway will be hacking it once the flowers are completely finished. -E -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:14:12 +0100, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Plant amazing Acers. OK. I do a lot of this, in fact I potted over 50 good seedlings yesterday. What's your interest, are you a collector, or a producer? -E -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
hawthorn woes
Emery Davis wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:14:12 +0100, Chris J Dixon wrote: Plant amazing Acers. OK. I do a lot of this, in fact I potted over 50 good seedlings yesterday. What's your interest, are you a collector, or a producer? Neither really, I just really like them and have as many as I can sensibly (1) fit in my small garden. I wanted to share my enjoyment, and so replaced an outdated sig line with something I felt more comfortable with, and which didn't get any Google hits. I do try to get to Westonbirt most autumns, which is a real treat. (1) Probably slightly more than is sensible ;-) Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:21:39 +0100, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Emery Davis wrote: On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:14:12 +0100, Chris J Dixon wrote: Plant amazing Acers. OK. I do a lot of this, in fact I potted over 50 good seedlings yesterday. What's your interest, are you a collector, or a producer? Neither really, I just really like them and have as many as I can sensibly (1) fit in my small garden. I wanted to share my enjoyment, and so replaced an outdated sig line with something I felt more comfortable with, and which didn't get any Google hits. Heh, good for you. I know what you mean, and I'm glad to see another enthusiast here. ;) I do try to get to Westonbirt most autumns, which is a real treat. I wish I could, but it's hard to do from here. It's fabulous is spring too, but of course you know that! :) (1) Probably slightly more than is sensible ;-) You're preaching to the converted! -E -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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