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Jim S 19-07-2013 09:33 PM

Marguerite - or not?
 
I bought a plant today labelled Marguerite, but it is not what I
remember,as a child. It's nice enough, with daisy-like flowers, blueish
feathery leaves and about 14" tall. I think it may be Argyranthemum and if
so is not hardy.
The Marguerite I remember as a child was taller with bigger flowers, dark
green smooth pointed leaves, hard stems and an odd smell. I would have
suggested a type of chrysanthemum, but I have grown many types of 'show'
chrysanths and they all had dull 'lobed' leaves.
Any ideas?
--
Jim S
Tyneside UK
www.jimscott.co.uk
http://geordiecamii.wordpress.com
http://geordiecam.wordpress.com/

Spider[_3_] 19-07-2013 10:29 PM

Marguerite - or not?
 
On 19/07/2013 21:33, Jim S wrote:
I bought a plant today labelled Marguerite, but it is not what I
remember,as a child. It's nice enough, with daisy-like flowers, blueish
feathery leaves and about 14" tall. I think it may be Argyranthemum and if
so is not hardy.
The Marguerite I remember as a child was taller with bigger flowers, dark
green smooth pointed leaves, hard stems and an odd smell. I would have
suggested a type of chrysanthemum, but I have grown many types of 'show'
chrysanths and they all had dull 'lobed' leaves.
Any ideas?





I don't doubt that the plant you bought is Marguerite syn.
Argyranthemum, which is extremely pretty, a good bedding plant, but not
hardy.

I am fairly sure that the plant you remember from childhood is the
Shasta Daisy or Leucanthemum x superbum:-

http://www.shootgardening.co.uk/plan...rbum-te-killin

There are a number of good forms around. They all seem to be 'good
doers', are perennial and have that characteristic aroma. The leaves
are dark green, somewhat pointed and toothed rather than lobed. The
plant makes handsome clumps very quickly and are easily divided, so
everyone was given a bit, which is why you remember it so well. I also
remember it being called 'Moon Daisy', 'Dog Daisy' and Marguerite so I
can easily understand the confusion.

Hope this helps.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

Bob Hobden 19-07-2013 10:30 PM

Marguerite - or not?
 
"Jim S" wrote ...

I bought a plant today labelled Marguerite, but it is not what I
remember,as a child. It's nice enough, with daisy-like flowers, blueish
feathery leaves and about 14" tall. I think it may be Argyranthemum and if
so is not hardy.
The Marguerite I remember as a child was taller with bigger flowers, dark
green smooth pointed leaves, hard stems and an odd smell. I would have
suggested a type of chrysanthemum, but I have grown many types of 'show'
chrysanths and they all had dull 'lobed' leaves.
Any ideas?


That sounds more like Michaelmas Daisy, Aster novi-belgi.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK


Charlie Pridham[_2_] 19-07-2013 10:43 PM

Marguerite - or not?
 

"Jim S" wrote in message
...
I bought a plant today labelled Marguerite, but it is not what I
remember,as a child. It's nice enough, with daisy-like flowers, blueish
feathery leaves and about 14" tall. I think it may be Argyranthemum and if
so is not hardy.
The Marguerite I remember as a child was taller with bigger flowers, dark
green smooth pointed leaves, hard stems and an odd smell. I would have
suggested a type of chrysanthemum, but I have grown many types of 'show'
chrysanths and they all had dull 'lobed' leaves.
Any ideas?
--
Jim S


Its not really a Marguerite but what you are describing my mum would call a
Shasta daisy, which I think is now chrysanthemum maximum this is a hardy
border perennial

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk


sacha 19-07-2013 10:52 PM

Marguerite - or not?
 
On 2013-07-19 21:33:42 +0100, Jim S said:

I bought a plant today labelled Marguerite, but it is not what I
remember,as a child. It's nice enough, with daisy-like flowers, blueish
feathery leaves and about 14" tall. I think it may be Argyranthemum and if
so is not hardy.
The Marguerite I remember as a child was taller with bigger flowers, dark
green smooth pointed leaves, hard stems and an odd smell. I would have
suggested a type of chrysanthemum, but I have grown many types of 'show'
chrysanths and they all had dull 'lobed' leaves.
Any ideas?


I suspect you're thinking of Shasta daisies?
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


David Hill 19-07-2013 11:11 PM

Marguerite - or not?
 
On 19/07/2013 22:43, Charlie Pridham wrote:

"Jim S" wrote in message
...
I bought a plant today labelled Marguerite, but it is not what I
remember,as a child. It's nice enough, with daisy-like flowers, blueish
feathery leaves and about 14" tall. I think it may be Argyranthemum
and if
so is not hardy.
The Marguerite I remember as a child was taller with bigger flowers, dark
green smooth pointed leaves, hard stems and an odd smell. I would have
suggested a type of chrysanthemum, but I have grown many types of 'show'
chrysanths and they all had dull 'lobed' leaves.
Any ideas?
--
Jim S


Its not really a Marguerite but what you are describing my mum would
call a Shasta daisy, which I think is now chrysanthemum maximum this is
a hardy border perennial


chrysanthemum maximum, Leucanthemum × superbum , shasta daisy
For those old enough to remember there were 2 varieties, Esta reed, a
single, and Horace reed which was a double.
I was also brought up to them being called Marguerites
Try goggling Leucanthemum × superbum
David @a roasting side of Swansea bay, 2nd day reaching 84f. in the
shade, I just wish I had been

Jim S 20-07-2013 12:24 AM

Marguerite - or not?
 

chrysanthemum maximum, Leucanthemum × superbum , shasta daisy
For those old enough to remember there were 2 varieties, Esta reed, a
single, and Horace reed which was a double.
I was also brought up to them being called Marguerites
Try goggling Leucanthemum × superbum
David @a roasting side of Swansea bay, 2nd day reaching 84f. in the
shade, I just wish I had been


Looks like you and others have sussed it. Now I have to find one locally.
Thanks all
--
Jim S
Tyneside UK
www.jimscott.co.uk
http://geordiecamii.wordpress.com
http://geordiecam.wordpress.com/


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