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I am looking for a good quality source of bird seed on line, in
particular for finches, as my local shops do not seem to stock that. |
Good reliable source of bird seed
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says... I am looking for a good quality source of bird seed on line, in particular for finches, as my local shops do not seem to stock that. I get all ours in bulk (20K bags) from a local farmstock feed suppliers; they take telephone orders, deliver free to the door, it's very high quality. Prices are about one third of the big online birdfood suppliers...I'm not paying for all those glossy colour catalogues and media advertising campaigns. The seed I get from them for the birdtable is this one, no mess http://birdfood2home.co.uk/garden-gourmet/ finches love that and also nyger seed Try yellow pages for your nearest stockfeed supplier. Janet. |
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On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 11:25:42 +0100, Broadback
wrote: I am looking for a good quality source of bird seed on line, in particular for finches, as my local shops do not seem to stock that. Having tried and failed to find a local farm feed supplier, I use Ark Wildlife - http://www.arkwildlife.co.uk/ - who are significantly cheaper than the RSPB (as is anyone) and, IIRC, about 2/3 of the price of CJ. I now put out just peanuts and kibbled sunflower hearts. In winter I mix ground peanuts with the sunflowers. I get a good, greedy variety of visitors (including lots of finches). Nyger seed here was always untouched and the so-called "no-mess" feed mixes are anything but...! Fat balls simply attracted more magpies who would fight over each ball with the losers then venting their spleen by killing a finch or a tit. -- Cheers, Jake ======================================= Wilting just a little at the east end of Swansea Bay. |
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"Broadback" wrote in message ... I am looking for a good quality source of bird seed on line, in particular for finches, as my local shops do not seem to stock that. Personally, I mix canary seed 50/50 with sunflower hearts both from Wilkinson's. It's very successful. Try it yourself. A fraction of the price of online suppliers. The finches love the canary seed. I did pay more when I was near a shop that had British Finch mix but as I don't have a reason to go there now, I found there was no difference in the take up if I used canary seed from Wilko. It's just not necessary to spend loads of money on online places for bird food. Well, I think so, your views may differ. Tina |
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"Broadback" wrote in message ... I am looking for a good quality source of bird seed on line, in particular for finches, as my local shops do not seem to stock that. www.brinvale.com Order Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday it arrives next day by Parcel Force. Friday/Saturday/Sunday usually arrives Tuesday. "My" finches (Bull, Green and Gold) seem to like Sunflower Hearts. Took them a while to latch on to Nyjer (your spelling may vary!) but it now gets eaten pretty quickly although it does seem to be 2nd preference despite most shops and books suggesting Finches love the stuff. I use one of these (first seller I came across tonight) http://www.monsterpetsupplies.co.uk/...FRMRtAodKFsAow and it seems more successful than some of the more conventional feeders. Tits will eat almost anything. The winter Starlings that live on the Somerset Levels (10 miles away) eat almost anything and can be a bit of a nuisance. I have yet to find a mixed seed that (a) never gets dropped and (b) doesn't then germinate to some degree but the "Little Brown Jobs" hoover most of that up along with Crows, Jays, Magpies, Blackbirds, Pigeons, the occasional Thrush and Collared Doves. That said the Brinvale stuff seems better than others for minimising mess. The Woodpeckers makes straight for the peanuts. The Robins mostly ignore the food but I spotted one early this year that seemed to have cottoned on to using a feeder. |
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On 18/08/2013 21:31, Graham Harrison wrote:
I use one of these (first seller I came across tonight) http://www.monsterpetsupplies.co.uk/...FRMRtAodKFsAow and it seems more successful than some of the more conventional feeders. That's a feeder? It looks more like a miners lamp. |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 21:40:37 +0100, David Hill wrote: On 18/08/2013 21:31, Graham Harrison wrote: I use one of these (first seller I came across tonight) http://www.monsterpetsupplies.co.uk/...FRMRtAodKFsAow and it seems more successful than some of the more conventional feeders. That's a feeder? It looks more like a miners lamp. Recycled NCB surplus. -- Martin in Zuid Holland Nyjer is a tiny seed (teaching Granny to suck eggs?). The one I have came with a sleeve that fits inside the feeder whilst filling to stop the seed coming out. I don't use it because I keep the seed in a large container and fill over/in the container. I just have to be a bit careful when I lift it out not to dislodge some seed. But, like I say, it does seem to do the business. |
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"Broadback" wrote in message ... I am looking for a good quality source of bird seed on line, in particular for finches, as my local shops do not seem to stock that. I use food4wildbirds for the past 2 years with no probs. Free delivery if you spend £20 :- http://www.food4wildbirds.co.uk/wild...ood-c-566.html |
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On 19/08/2013 20:32, Bertie Doe wrote:
"Broadback" wrote in message ... I am looking for a good quality source of bird seed on line, in particular for finches, as my local shops do not seem to stock that. I use food4wildbirds for the past 2 years with no probs. Free delivery if you spend £20 :- http://www.food4wildbirds.co.uk/wild...ood-c-566.html Many thanks for all the suggestions, I have gone with the Wilkinson's tip as they are low cost and low quantity, so I can see what works best. From a birds point of view and come to that mine what is the difference in Sunflower seeds and Sunflower hearts? |
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"Broadback" wrote in message ... Many thanks for all the suggestions, I have gone with the Wilkinson's tip as they are low cost and low quantity, so I can see what works best. From a birds point of view and come to that mine what is the difference in Sunflower seeds and Sunflower hearts? Sunflower hearts have had the seed coats removed. Hence the higher price. |
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:05:23 +0100, "Bertie Doe"
wrote: "Broadback" wrote in message ... Many thanks for all the suggestions, I have gone with the Wilkinson's tip as they are low cost and low quantity, so I can see what works best. From a birds point of view and come to that mine what is the difference in Sunflower seeds and Sunflower hearts? Sunflower hearts have had the seed coats removed. Hence the higher price. And of course, the birds won't eat the coats so you'd be paying for waste if you bought the whole seeds and you'd have the mess to clear up. -- Cheers, Jake ======================================= Wilting just a little at the east end of Swansea Bay. |
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"Jake" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:05:23 +0100, "Bertie Doe" wrote: "Broadback" wrote in message ... Many thanks for all the suggestions, I have gone with the Wilkinson's tip as they are low cost and low quantity, so I can see what works best. From a birds point of view and come to that mine what is the difference in Sunflower seeds and Sunflower hearts? Sunflower hearts have had the seed coats removed. Hence the higher price. And of course, the birds won't eat the coats so you'd be paying for waste if you bought the whole seeds and you'd have the mess to clear up. Last month we had a couple of rare visitors - a pair of bullfinches. Mostly the male only showed up and he would only stay for 5 or 10 minutes. His first choice of food was whole black sunflower seeds, with just an occasional visit to the SF hearts. Maybe the coats on the BSFs keep the inards fresher? The bullfinch has a powerful beak, which helps. However, goldfinches prefer the hearts and will only move to the nyjer when the hearts are finished. |
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:01:04 +0100, "Bertie Doe"
wrote: Last month we had a couple of rare visitors - a pair of bullfinches. Mostly the male only showed up and he would only stay for 5 or 10 minutes. His first choice of food was whole black sunflower seeds, with just an occasional visit to the SF hearts. Maybe the coats on the BSFs keep the inards fresher? The bullfinch has a powerful beak, which helps. However, goldfinches prefer the hearts and will only move to the nyjer when the hearts are finished. It's fascinating in a way that in different parts of the country, birds seem to like different foods. Here bull, gold, green finches all go for the hearts. Nyger just wasn't touched. There's even a spotted woodpecker that prefers the hearts on the table to pecking at the peanuts in the feeder (though other woodpeckers prefer the pecking). Food doesn't stay long enough to go "unfresh". The feeders and the table are cleared each day. In the summer, they only get replenished once a day (my wallet can't take more). In winter, it's at least twice daily. -- Cheers, Jake ======================================= Wilting just a little at the east end of Swansea Bay. |
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On 2013-08-21 19:56:23 +0100, Jake said:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:01:04 +0100, "Bertie Doe" wrote: Last month we had a couple of rare visitors - a pair of bullfinches. Mostly the male only showed up and he would only stay for 5 or 10 minutes. His first choice of food was whole black sunflower seeds, with just an occasional visit to the SF hearts. Maybe the coats on the BSFs keep the inards fresher? The bullfinch has a powerful beak, which helps. However, goldfinches prefer the hearts and will only move to the nyjer when the hearts are finished. It's fascinating in a way that in different parts of the country, birds seem to like different foods. Here bull, gold, green finches all go for the hearts. Nyger just wasn't touched. There's even a spotted woodpecker that prefers the hearts on the table to pecking at the peanuts in the feeder (though other woodpeckers prefer the pecking). Food doesn't stay long enough to go "unfresh". The feeders and the table are cleared each day. In the summer, they only get replenished once a day (my wallet can't take more). In winter, it's at least twice daily. Nothing eats Niger here, apart from squirrels, perhaps. A goodish sized row of sunflowers have been planted in the field, so I'll be interested to see what goes for the seed. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2013-08-21 19:56:23 +0100, Jake said: It's fascinating in a way that in different parts of the country, birds seem to like different foods. Here bull, gold, green finches all go for the hearts. Nyger just wasn't touched. There's even a spotted woodpecker that prefers the hearts on the table to pecking at the peanuts in the feeder (though other woodpeckers prefer the pecking). Food doesn't stay long enough to go "unfresh". The feeders and the table are cleared each day. In the summer, they only get replenished once a day (my wallet can't take more). In winter, it's at least twice daily. Nothing eats Niger here, apart from squirrels, perhaps. A goodish sized row of sunflowers have been planted in the field, so I'll be interested to see what goes for the seed. The Eden Project plants an allotment sized area with sunflowers. We were there last September and it was mainly being eaten by green and goldfinches. |
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On 2013-08-21 22:41:29 +0100, Bertie Doe said:
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2013-08-21 19:56:23 +0100, Jake said: It's fascinating in a way that in different parts of the country, birds seem to like different foods. Here bull, gold, green finches all go for the hearts. Nyger just wasn't touched. There's even a spotted woodpecker that prefers the hearts on the table to pecking at the peanuts in the feeder (though other woodpeckers prefer the pecking). Food doesn't stay long enough to go "unfresh". The feeders and the table are cleared each day. In the summer, they only get replenished once a day (my wallet can't take more). In winter, it's at least twice daily. Nothing eats Niger here, apart from squirrels, perhaps. A goodish sized row of sunflowers have been planted in the field, so I'll be interested to see what goes for the seed. The Eden Project plants an allotment sized area with sunflowers. We were there last September and it was mainly being eaten by green and goldfinches. We so rarely seem to see those here so maybe it will attract them. And I think I heard and just caught a glimpse of the spotted flycatcher the other day. The second time, Ray was with me and he agreed that's probably what it is. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:29:31 +0100, Sacha
wrote: A goodish sized row of sunflowers have been planted in the field, so I'll be interested to see what goes for the seed. The last time I grew a few sunflowers, a squirrel first chewed great chunks off the seedhead, then chewed through the stalk and carried away what was left of the head. Gardening on Wilts/Somerset border on slightly alkaline clay underlying soil worked for many decades. |
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On 21/08/2013 22:41, Bertie Doe wrote:
The Eden Project plants an allotment sized area with sunflowers. We were there last September and it was mainly being eaten by green and goldfinches. I was there this summer - and was rather surprised to see a field full of cannabis plants! (on the 'hillside' as you walk along the path from the rain forest, away from the biomes). I guess they were hemp, but there was no doubting the family. There were a lot of them too - but no mention anywhere that I could see as to why they were planted. Anyone know? -- regards andy |
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On 23/08/2013 11:25, News wrote:
On 21/08/2013 22:41, Bertie Doe wrote: The Eden Project plants an allotment sized area with sunflowers. We were there last September and it was mainly being eaten by green and goldfinches. I was there this summer - and was rather surprised to see a field full of cannabis plants! (on the 'hillside' as you walk along the path from the rain forest, away from the biomes). I guess they were hemp, but there was no doubting the family. There were a lot of them too - but no mention anywhere that I could see as to why they were planted. Anyone know? Hemp can be grown under licence for fibre. Remember hempen rope? |
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David Hill wrote: On 23/08/2013 11:25, News wrote: On 21/08/2013 22:41, Bertie Doe wrote: The Eden Project plants an allotment sized area with sunflowers. We were there last September and it was mainly being eaten by green and goldfinches. I was there this summer - and was rather surprised to see a field full of cannabis plants! (on the 'hillside' as you walk along the path from the rain forest, away from the biomes). I guess they were hemp, but there was no doubting the family. There were a lot of them too - but no mention anywhere that I could see as to why they were planted. Anyone know? Hemp can be grown under licence for fibre. Remember hempen rope? As popularised by Jack Ketch :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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says... On 21/08/2013 22:41, Bertie Doe wrote: The Eden Project plants an allotment sized area with sunflowers. We were there last September and it was mainly being eaten by green and goldfinches. I was there this summer - and was rather surprised to see a field full of cannabis plants! (on the 'hillside' as you walk along the path from the rain forest, away from the biomes). I guess they were hemp, but there was no doubting the family. There were a lot of them too - but no mention anywhere that I could see as to why they were planted. Anyone know? google is your friend http://www.hemptechnology.co.uk/growing.htm Please view our Products Section for the latest information on what we supply - Hemp fibre for automotive, insulation and paper industries, BioMat hemp matting for horticulture and landscaping, hemp based construction products, and Hemcore, Rapport and Flaxcore Bedding for animals. " "The term Industrial Hemp is applied to varieties of Cannabis sativa that have been specifically produced by plant breeders to have a THC level (tetra hydro cannabinnol) of 0.2% or less. THC is the psychoactive drug in Cannabis, which in a marijuana plant would be nearer 10 ? 15%. However, visually hemp plants are identical to illicitly grown cannabis plants and can therefore be attractive to drug dealers/users despite the very low THC content. We operate a licencing system as an agent of the Home Office whereby growers apply to Hemp Technology and we consider each application." Janet |
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On 23/08/2013 13:33, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 11:49:01 +0100, David Hill wrote: On 23/08/2013 11:25, News wrote: On 21/08/2013 22:41, Bertie Doe wrote: The Eden Project plants an allotment sized area with sunflowers. We were there last September and it was mainly being eaten by green and goldfinches. I was there this summer - and was rather surprised to see a field full of cannabis plants! (on the 'hillside' as you walk along the path from the rain forest, away from the biomes). I guess they were hemp, but there was no doubting the family. There were a lot of them too - but no mention anywhere that I could see as to why they were planted. Anyone know? Hemp can be grown under licence for fibre. Remember hempen rope? and under licence for medical purposes, but not privately. I think the stuff they grow by the field full would do very little unless you stood in the smoke from a bonfire of it. |
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On 23/08/2013 13:10, Janet wrote:
In article , says... On 21/08/2013 22:41, Bertie Doe wrote: The Eden Project plants an allotment sized area with sunflowers. We were there last September and it was mainly being eaten by green and goldfinches. I was there this summer - and was rather surprised to see a field full of cannabis plants! (on the 'hillside' as you walk along the path from the rain forest, away from the biomes). I guess they were hemp, but there was no doubting the family. There were a lot of them too - but no mention anywhere that I could see as to why they were planted. Anyone know? google is your friend http://www.hemptechnology.co.uk/growing.htm I know what hemp is, how its grown and what its used for. And I know what the difference is between it and smokeable marijuana. What I wondered was whether anyone knew why they were growing a field full of it at the Eden Project. Most things they have there a fairly detailed description and explanation for the 'exhibit'. There was nothing for the cannabis field. (And it did smell a bit stronger than standard hemp - but I'm sure it could only have been hemp - there wasn't any security around it, so it couldn't have been licenced marijuana cultivation. -- regards andy |
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Andy the Rope Walk at Chatham Dockyard not only shows how rope was made, but
is now a viable manufacturing enterprise. Could it be the 'raw materials' for them? Mike "News" wrote in message ... On 23/08/2013 13:10, Janet wrote: In article , says... On 21/08/2013 22:41, Bertie Doe wrote: The Eden Project plants an allotment sized area with sunflowers. We were there last September and it was mainly being eaten by green and goldfinches. I was there this summer - and was rather surprised to see a field full of cannabis plants! (on the 'hillside' as you walk along the path from the rain forest, away from the biomes). I guess they were hemp, but there was no doubting the family. There were a lot of them too - but no mention anywhere that I could see as to why they were planted. Anyone know? google is your friend http://www.hemptechnology.co.uk/growing.htm I know what hemp is, how its grown and what its used for. And I know what the difference is between it and smokeable marijuana. What I wondered was whether anyone knew why they were growing a field full of it at the Eden Project. Most things they have there a fairly detailed description and explanation for the 'exhibit'. There was nothing for the cannabis field. (And it did smell a bit stronger than standard hemp - but I'm sure it could only have been hemp - there wasn't any security around it, so it couldn't have been licenced marijuana cultivation. -- regards andy |
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On 2013-08-23 16:16:42 +0100, News said:
On 23/08/2013 13:10, Janet wrote: In article , says... On 21/08/2013 22:41, Bertie Doe wrote: The Eden Project plants an allotment sized area with sunflowers. We were there last September and it was mainly being eaten by green and goldfinches. I was there this summer - and was rather surprised to see a field full of cannabis plants! (on the 'hillside' as you walk along the path from the rain forest, away from the biomes). I guess they were hemp, but there was no doubting the family. There were a lot of them too - but no mention anywhere that I could see as to why they were planted. Anyone know? google is your friend http://www.hemptechnology.co.uk/growing.htm I know what hemp is, how its grown and what its used for. And I know what the difference is between it and smokeable marijuana. What I wondered was whether anyone knew why they were growing a field full of it at the Eden Project. Most things they have there a fairly detailed description and explanation for the 'exhibit'. There was nothing for the cannabis field. (And it did smell a bit stronger than standard hemp - but I'm sure it could only have been hemp - there wasn't any security around it, so it couldn't have been licenced marijuana cultivation. This is explanatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEvLxcZw6Cg -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2013-08-23 15:16:42 +0000, News said:
On 23/08/2013 13:10, Janet wrote: In article , says... On 21/08/2013 22:41, Bertie Doe wrote: The Eden Project plants an allotment sized area with sunflowers. We were there last September and it was mainly being eaten by green and goldfinches. I was there this summer - and was rather surprised to see a field full of cannabis plants! (on the 'hillside' as you walk along the path from the rain forest, away from the biomes). I guess they were hemp, but there was no doubting the family. There were a lot of them too - but no mention anywhere that I could see as to why they were planted. Anyone know? google is your friend http://www.hemptechnology.co.uk/growing.htm I know what hemp is, how its grown and what its used for. And I know what the difference is between it and smokeable marijuana. What I wondered was whether anyone knew why they were growing a field full of it at the Eden Project. Most things they have there a fairly detailed description and explanation for the 'exhibit'. There was nothing for the cannabis field. (And it did smell a bit stronger than standard hemp - but I'm sure it could only have been hemp - there wasn't any security around it, so it couldn't have been licenced marijuana cultivation. I should have added to my earlier post that, while some people do not always agree that Eden's aims are clear, some of them are certainly to educate people about plants, nature, the use of plants, the interdependency of species and so forth. Showing what hemp is used for is probably apart of that educational exhibition and the part hemp plays in maritime history, for example. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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Like I said about Chatham Dockyard and the Rope Walk there :-))
Have you been there and seen rope being manufactured? Mike "sacha" wrote in message ... On 2013-08-23 15:16:42 +0000, News said: On 23/08/2013 13:10, Janet wrote: In article , says... On 21/08/2013 22:41, Bertie Doe wrote: The Eden Project plants an allotment sized area with sunflowers. We were there last September and it was mainly being eaten by green and goldfinches. I was there this summer - and was rather surprised to see a field full of cannabis plants! (on the 'hillside' as you walk along the path from the rain forest, away from the biomes). I guess they were hemp, but there was no doubting the family. There were a lot of them too - but no mention anywhere that I could see as to why they were planted. Anyone know? google is your friend http://www.hemptechnology.co.uk/growing.htm I know what hemp is, how its grown and what its used for. And I know what the difference is between it and smokeable marijuana. What I wondered was whether anyone knew why they were growing a field full of it at the Eden Project. Most things they have there a fairly detailed description and explanation for the 'exhibit'. There was nothing for the cannabis field. (And it did smell a bit stronger than standard hemp - but I'm sure it could only have been hemp - there wasn't any security around it, so it couldn't have been licenced marijuana cultivation. I should have added to my earlier post that, while some people do not always agree that Eden's aims are clear, some of them are certainly to educate people about plants, nature, the use of plants, the interdependency of species and so forth. Showing what hemp is used for is probably apart of that educational exhibition and the part hemp plays in maritime history, for example. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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On 23/08/2013 17:26, Sacha wrote:
This is explanatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEvLxcZw6Cg Ah - thanks for that -- regards andy |
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"Bertie Doe" wrote in message ... "Broadback" wrote in message ... Many thanks for all the suggestions, I have gone with the Wilkinson's tip as they are low cost and low quantity, so I can see what works best. I don't think you'll regret it. There is no point at all spending a whole load of money on buying birdfood online with wheat in, unless you spread it on your birdtable and want pigeons or buying a pack of wild bird food which is filled out with wheat to get the same. Fill a feed seeder with 50/50 canary mix & sunflower hearts and see them come. Let me know the result if you do. |
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On 31/08/2013 00:58, Christina Websell wrote:
"Bertie Doe" wrote in message ... "Broadback" wrote in message ... Many thanks for all the suggestions, I have gone with the Wilkinson's tip as they are low cost and low quantity, so I can see what works best. I don't think you'll regret it. There is no point at all spending a whole load of money on buying birdfood online with wheat in, unless you spread it on your birdtable and want pigeons or buying a pack of wild bird food which is filled out with wheat to get the same. Fill a feed seeder with 50/50 canary mix & sunflower hearts and see them come. Let me know the result if you do. I will Christine, at the moment I have a feeder with peanuts, one with ordinary wild bird seed and one with fat balls. The fat balls is the only one being fed from, the others are ignored. I will wait and see what happens as the weather turns more inclement, which it seems to be doing today! |
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