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On 17/09/2013 13:53, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-09-17 13:41:04 +0100, Spider said:

On 17/09/2013 09:25, Pam Moore wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:24:21 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
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"Sacha" wrote

I have a two stem orchid, a phalaenopsis and one stem appears to be
producing a budding shoot from a leaf node a third of the way up
one 2'
stem and it looks as if there might be a bud forming on the very
tip of
that original stem. The other seemed to be doing the same at the
tip but it
was knocked off. ;-( I'm just letting it get on with it but
wondered if
this is normal behaviour for these orchids. All the other leaf
nodes are
blank and it's going to look a bit strange when/if it flowers! The
original stems aren't dying back at all, so I've left well alone.

Very normal behaviour. In the hands of the experts the flower stems
constantly lengthen, stop, flower, and lengthen etc according to
temperature
so they end up with dozens of flowers on one stem if they can keep the
original flowers looking good. They can also grow a new orchid on
the flower
stem instead of a flower, one of mine is doing that now.
I sometimes cut the flower spikes off completely so the plant has a
rest and
then makes new ones if they start to look strange/untidy.

I can remember paying 25 for one of these orchids about 40 years
ago from a
specialist grower, now you can pick them up for 5 in Sainsburys and
they
are now easy to grow too which they didn't used to be.

Our local greengrocer had some for 3.99 yesterday, looking quite
good! I resisted the urge to buy because I have 4 already.

Pam in Bristol





You should have bought a few, Pam! I would have. Four is nothing ...
I've got 34! .. and that's not counting the hardy types. If I had a
heated greenhouse or conservatory, there'd be no stopping me :)


I do hope RG didn't read this!! ;-)


In Morrison's today I saw a pot of Dendrobium orchids, 2 stems and
flowers right from pot level to the top fantastic, but I,m not that good
with orchids and at 10 though it's very good value it's not for me.
They had 3 other plants but not of the same quality.
David @ a now almost sunny side of Swansea Bay

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On 17/09/2013 17:46, David Hill wrote:
On 17/09/2013 13:53, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-09-17 13:41:04 +0100, Spider said:

On 17/09/2013 09:25, Pam Moore wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:24:21 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

"Sacha" wrote

I have a two stem orchid, a phalaenopsis and one stem appears to be
producing a budding shoot from a leaf node a third of the way up
one 2'
stem and it looks as if there might be a bud forming on the very
tip of
that original stem. The other seemed to be doing the same at the
tip but it
was knocked off. ;-( I'm just letting it get on with it but
wondered if
this is normal behaviour for these orchids. All the other leaf
nodes are
blank and it's going to look a bit strange when/if it flowers! The
original stems aren't dying back at all, so I've left well alone.

Very normal behaviour. In the hands of the experts the flower stems
constantly lengthen, stop, flower, and lengthen etc according to
temperature
so they end up with dozens of flowers on one stem if they can keep the
original flowers looking good. They can also grow a new orchid on
the flower
stem instead of a flower, one of mine is doing that now.
I sometimes cut the flower spikes off completely so the plant has a
rest and
then makes new ones if they start to look strange/untidy.

I can remember paying 25 for one of these orchids about 40 years
ago from a
specialist grower, now you can pick them up for 5 in Sainsburys and
they
are now easy to grow too which they didn't used to be.

Our local greengrocer had some for 3.99 yesterday, looking quite
good! I resisted the urge to buy because I have 4 already.

Pam in Bristol





You should have bought a few, Pam! I would have. Four is nothing ...
I've got 34! .. and that's not counting the hardy types. If I had a
heated greenhouse or conservatory, there'd be no stopping me :)


I do hope RG didn't read this!! ;-)


In Morrison's today I saw a pot of Dendrobium orchids, 2 stems and
flowers right from pot level to the top fantastic, but I,m not that good
with orchids and at 10 though it's very good value it's not for me.
They had 3 other plants but not of the same quality.
David @ a now almost sunny side of Swansea Bay





That's a very good price for a 2-stem Dendrobium. Alas, I seem to have
difficulty keeping them. I love cambria types and paphiopedilums, but
rarely see them for sale.

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On high ground in SE London
gardening on heavy clay

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On 2013-09-17 17:30:57 +0100, Spider said:

On 17/09/2013 16:41, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-09-17 15:13:39 +0100, Spider said:

On 17/09/2013 14:11, RG wrote:
On 17/09/2013 13:53, Sacha wrote:

You should have bought a few, Pam! I would have. Four is nothing ...
I've got 34! .. and that's not counting the hardy types. If I had a
heated greenhouse or conservatory, there'd be no stopping me :)

I do hope RG didn't read this!! ;-)





Ooops! Too late ;~)))


Poor man!!




Believe me, he doesn't need any sympathy! :~) He even gets a bit
excited when my Paphiopedilums flower, esp. the maudiae type. What he
doesn't like are the little black flies but, hey, I've got to eat
something!! :~))


Shudder!
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"Spider" wrote in message ...

On 17/09/2013 17:46, David Hill wrote:
On 17/09/2013 13:53, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-09-17 13:41:04 +0100, Spider said:

On 17/09/2013 09:25, Pam Moore wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:24:21 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

"Sacha" wrote

I have a two stem orchid, a phalaenopsis and one stem appears to be
producing a budding shoot from a leaf node a third of the way up
one 2'
stem and it looks as if there might be a bud forming on the very
tip of
that original stem. The other seemed to be doing the same at the
tip but it
was knocked off. ;-( I'm just letting it get on with it but
wondered if
this is normal behaviour for these orchids. All the other leaf
nodes are
blank and it's going to look a bit strange when/if it flowers! The
original stems aren't dying back at all, so I've left well alone.

Very normal behaviour. In the hands of the experts the flower stems
constantly lengthen, stop, flower, and lengthen etc according to
temperature
so they end up with dozens of flowers on one stem if they can keep
the
original flowers looking good. They can also grow a new orchid on
the flower
stem instead of a flower, one of mine is doing that now.
I sometimes cut the flower spikes off completely so the plant has a
rest and
then makes new ones if they start to look strange/untidy.

I can remember paying 25 for one of these orchids about 40 years
ago from a
specialist grower, now you can pick them up for 5 in Sainsburys and
they
are now easy to grow too which they didn't used to be.

Our local greengrocer had some for 3.99 yesterday, looking quite
good! I resisted the urge to buy because I have 4 already.

Pam in Bristol





You should have bought a few, Pam! I would have. Four is nothing ...
I've got 34! .. and that's not counting the hardy types. If I had a
heated greenhouse or conservatory, there'd be no stopping me :)

I do hope RG didn't read this!! ;-)


In Morrison's today I saw a pot of Dendrobium orchids, 2 stems and
flowers right from pot level to the top fantastic, but I,m not that good
with orchids and at 10 though it's very good value it's not for me.
They had 3 other plants but not of the same quality.
David @ a now almost sunny side of Swansea Bay





That's a very good price for a 2-stem Dendrobium. Alas, I seem to have
difficulty keeping them. I love cambria types and paphiopedilums, but
rarely see them for sale.


Dendrobium nobile types need a distinct dry rest period to flower and grow
well. Phals are much easier.

https://www.orchidweb.com/nobiletypedendrobiumcare.html
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On 18/09/2013 23:16, Bob Hobden wrote:
"Spider" wrote in message ...

On 17/09/2013 17:46, David Hill wrote:
On 17/09/2013 13:53, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-09-17 13:41:04 +0100, Spider said:

On 17/09/2013 09:25, Pam Moore wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:24:21 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

"Sacha" wrote

I have a two stem orchid, a phalaenopsis and one stem appears to be
producing a budding shoot from a leaf node a third of the way up
one 2'
stem and it looks as if there might be a bud forming on the very
tip of
that original stem. The other seemed to be doing the same at the
tip but it
was knocked off. ;-( I'm just letting it get on with it but
wondered if
this is normal behaviour for these orchids. All the other leaf
nodes are
blank and it's going to look a bit strange when/if it flowers! The
original stems aren't dying back at all, so I've left well alone.

Very normal behaviour. In the hands of the experts the flower stems
constantly lengthen, stop, flower, and lengthen etc according to
temperature
so they end up with dozens of flowers on one stem if they can
keep the
original flowers looking good. They can also grow a new orchid on
the flower
stem instead of a flower, one of mine is doing that now.
I sometimes cut the flower spikes off completely so the plant has a
rest and
then makes new ones if they start to look strange/untidy.

I can remember paying 25 for one of these orchids about 40 years
ago from a
specialist grower, now you can pick them up for 5 in Sainsburys and
they
are now easy to grow too which they didn't used to be.

Our local greengrocer had some for 3.99 yesterday, looking quite
good! I resisted the urge to buy because I have 4 already.

Pam in Bristol





You should have bought a few, Pam! I would have. Four is nothing ...
I've got 34! .. and that's not counting the hardy types. If I had a
heated greenhouse or conservatory, there'd be no stopping me :)

I do hope RG didn't read this!! ;-)

In Morrison's today I saw a pot of Dendrobium orchids, 2 stems and
flowers right from pot level to the top fantastic, but I,m not that good
with orchids and at 10 though it's very good value it's not for me.
They had 3 other plants but not of the same quality.
David @ a now almost sunny side of Swansea Bay





That's a very good price for a 2-stem Dendrobium. Alas, I seem to
have difficulty keeping them. I love cambria types and
paphiopedilums, but rarely see them for sale.


Dendrobium nobile types need a distinct dry rest period to flower and
grow well. Phals are much easier.

https://www.orchidweb.com/nobiletypedendrobiumcare.html





Great link, Bob. Thanks for that. Have printed that page off so I can
keep it for future reference. My Dendrobium is a very sad specimen at
the moment :~(, but I'm selecting cuttings off it to overwinter and,
hopefully, have a better chance with it next year.

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On 17/09/2013 13:46, Spider wrote:


Ah! Just as well you posted a pic, Sacha. That's not a keiki, but
another small flowering stem.


Begging your collective indulgences - what about these? Might they be
potential babies?

They are both at the top of old flowering stalks (cut down to about 5
inches last year). Below them on the old stalks, a new flowering branch
has been flowering prolifically this year.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11971937/WP_20130922_001%20(1).jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11971937/WP_20130922_004%20(1).jpg

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"News" wrote

Spider wrote:


Ah! Just as well you posted a pic, Sacha. That's not a keiki, but
another small flowering stem.


Begging your collective indulgences - what about these? Might they be
potential babies?

They are both at the top of old flowering stalks (cut down to about 5
inches last year). Below them on the old stalks, a new flowering branch
has been flowering prolifically this year.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11971937/WP_20130922_001%20(1).jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11971937/WP_20130922_004%20(1).jpg


Yes, new baby plants. Let them stay on the mother plant as long as possible
and then separate and pot up.
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On 24/09/2013 18:44, Bob Hobden wrote:

Yes, new baby plants. Let them stay on the mother plant as long as
possible and then separate and pot up.


Many thanks Bob

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