Home grown veg. are the best
But costly.
I have worked out that it would be far cheaper to buy from supermarkets. The seeds cost next to nothing. (well mine do) It is the manure and fertilisers, labour and pest control that cost the most imo. Let alone failures. I am not sure that I will continue growing some of the things I have grown in the past. I will always grow potatoes, tomatoes, peas, broad beans and runner beans. They seem to be, for me anyway, reliable every year. I wonder what others think. Baz |
Home grown veg. are the best
We came to that conclusion years and years ago, that is why our gardens are picturesque. When, and for how long, does a veg garden look picturesque? Mike "Baz" wrote in message ... But costly. I have worked out that it would be far cheaper to buy from supermarkets. The seeds cost next to nothing. (well mine do) It is the manure and fertilisers, labour and pest control that cost the most imo. Let alone failures. I am not sure that I will continue growing some of the things I have grown in the past. I will always grow potatoes, tomatoes, peas, broad beans and runner beans. They seem to be, for me anyway, reliable every year. I wonder what others think. Baz |
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On 20/09/2013 14:17, 'Mike' wrote:
We came to that conclusion years and years ago, that is why our gardens are picturesque. When, and for how long, does a veg garden look picturesque? Mike "Baz" wrote in message ... But costly. I have worked out that it would be far cheaper to buy from supermarkets. The seeds cost next to nothing. (well mine do) It is the manure and fertilisers, labour and pest control that cost the most imo. Let alone failures. I am not sure that I will continue growing some of the things I have grown in the past. I will always grow potatoes, tomatoes, peas, broad beans and runner beans. They seem to be, for me anyway, reliable every year. I wonder what others think. Baz I agree with you Baz, with slight changes. I remove tomatoes because I am never successful with outdoor ones I remove peas, because of the problem with supporting them (almost as difficult as supporting my wife). Also I would add French beans, I grew them for the first time this year, they were a great success. I also grow a few lettuce and beetroot. That is now my lot! |
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"Baz" wrote But costly. I have worked out that it would be far cheaper to buy from supermarkets. The seeds cost next to nothing. (well mine do) It is the manure and fertilisers, labour and pest control that cost the most imo. Let alone failures. I am not sure that I will continue growing some of the things I have grown in the past. I will always grow potatoes, tomatoes, peas, broad beans and runner beans. They seem to be, for me anyway, reliable every year. I wonder what others think. Baz I agree with you Baz, with slight changes. I remove tomatoes because I am never successful with outdoor ones I remove peas, because of the problem with supporting them (almost as difficult as supporting my wife). Also I would add French beans, I grew them for the first time this year, they were a great success. I also grow a few lettuce and beetroot. That is now my lot! But what about the Winter veg? Sprouts, Cabbage, Savoy. Leeks and Parsnips. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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Baz wrote:
I will always grow potatoes, tomatoes, peas, broad beans and runner beans. They seem to be, for me anyway, reliable every year. I was just saying to my dad today - there are a lot of people who say that you are better off buying frozen peas to homegrown, as they are frozen fresher (almost even if you eat straight from the plant!) and they keep well, and there's not a /huge/ amount of variety in what you can grow (although I think there's more than is claimed). I will always grow sweetcorn, regardless of how poor a crop/effort ratio you seem to get. ANd courgettes - they sometimes get munched to useless, but treated right they are very reliable. And butternut squash, because once they get going they just look after themselves. And keep well. We have about 20 that will be ready for us over the winter. And regardless of how much I seem to fail, I'll always try growing a variety of brassicas - the first cauliflower of the season that we ate with our tea tonight just gave me such a thrill of "at last!", even if it was tiny! |
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On Friday, September 20, 2013 2:00:30 PM UTC+1, Baz wrote:
But costly. I have worked out that it would be far cheaper to buy from supermarkets. The seeds cost next to nothing. (well mine do) It is the manure and fertilisers, labour and pest control that cost the most imo. Let alone failures. I am not sure that I will continue growing some of the things I have grown in the past. I will always grow potatoes, tomatoes, peas, broad beans and runner beans. They seem to be, for me anyway, reliable every year. I wonder what others think. Baz Set things up right & you can just go out & pick each year. NT |
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Broadback wrote in
: On 20/09/2013 14:17, 'Mike' wrote: We came to that conclusion years and years ago, that is why our gardens are picturesque. When, and for how long, does a veg garden look picturesque? Mike "Baz" wrote in message ... But costly. I have worked out that it would be far cheaper to buy from supermarkets. The seeds cost next to nothing. (well mine do) It is the manure and fertilisers, labour and pest control that cost the most imo. Let alone failures. I am not sure that I will continue growing some of the things I have grown in the past. I will always grow potatoes, tomatoes, peas, broad beans and runner beans. They seem to be, for me anyway, reliable every year. I wonder what others think. Baz I agree with you Baz, with slight changes. I remove tomatoes because I am never successful with outdoor ones I remove peas, because of the problem with supporting them (almost as difficult as supporting my wife). Also I would add French beans, I grew them for the first time this year, they were a great success. I also grow a few lettuce and beetroot. That is now my lot! Broadback, have you tried growing Gardeners Delight outdoor tomatoes? I have never had total failure. We have had a couple of poor crops in the past due to poor summers but we normally have them in "swarms" It was a slow start this year but now they are bottled, juiced and frozen and I bet I have given away 5kg this week alone - all from 16 plants. We always plant too many just in case we get bad weather conditions. This is getting long winded now, but please read on. Pea "Hurst Greenshaft" is THE only pea that I grow. OK it is not a true garden pea, it is marrowfat(whatever that means). When young they are delicious and 10-13 peas per pod. Eat them raw. You must soak them in tepid water for 24 hours before sowing.IME. Forget sowing at 2" intervals, or 2" deep, sow them thickly and shallow. I sow mine so the seed is nearly touching its neighbour at about 25mm deep. As a matter of fact, I will be sowing this variety in November to overwinter, just a 3m double row to get early peas,before I sow them in spring. Always works for me. Baz |
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"Broadback" wrote
"Baz" wrote But costly. I have worked out that it would be far cheaper to buy from supermarkets. The seeds cost next to nothing. (well mine do) It is the manure and fertilisers, labour and pest control that cost the most imo. Let alone failures. I am not sure that I will continue growing some of the things I have grown in the past. I will always grow potatoes, tomatoes, peas, broad beans and runner beans. They seem to be, for me anyway, reliable every year. I wonder what others think. I agree with you Baz, with slight changes. I remove tomatoes because I am never successful with outdoor ones I remove peas, because of the problem with supporting them (almost as difficult as supporting my wife). Also I would add French beans, I grew them for the first time this year, they were a great success. I also grow a few lettuce and beetroot. That is now my lot! We now only grow the blight resistant tomatoes Ferline, Fantasio and the new cherry type Losetto (amazing cropper no-one would need more than two plants). They have only got blight in the last few weeks and only today have I pulled them up because it does not go straight throughout the plant like normal Toms so you still get a good crop. Even better if you spray with Bordeaux mixture as then they don't get blight at all. Peas, we use some old wire fencing we were given to dump by a neighbour, four old metal posts banged in and run the netting between, easy. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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So you are a troll then. Forget the leaf ID. Janet Wrong thread. |
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David Hill wrote: I use the same run for my peas, Heritage varieties that grow to 6ft+ they start to have peas around 3 ft up and carry on to the top, they can be picked for several weeks so you don't have the same glut and back ache as with modern short varieties. I would dearly love to achieve the same, but for snap or sugar peas, and add in mildew resistance :-( Also, I can't find a variety of climbing blue French bean that doesn't some cropping at the first spell of cold or dry weather in September. As we are blue bean addicts, that is a pain. Can anyone suggest any that might do better? Lastly, what do the blight-resistant cherry tomatoes mentioned earlier (I forget the name) taste like, and do they straggle or are they stiff? Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Nick Maclaren wrote: Also, I can't find a variety of climbing blue French bean that doesn't some cropping at the first spell of cold or dry weather in September. ... Sigh. Doesn't STOP cropping. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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nurseries.co.uk says... So you are a troll then. Forget the leaf ID. Janet Wrong thread. Nope; just another thread where the same gardenbanter poster is trolling nonsense. But I'll leave it to Meow to explain to Baz how to "set things up right and you can just go out and pick each year " potatoes, tomatoes, peas, broad beans and runner beans unlike the rest of us who plant or sow those crops annually, fertilise weed and water etc. Janet. |
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Janet wrote in news:MPG.2ca919302b45f6ed989bb4
@news.individual.net: In article , david@abacus- nurseries.co.uk says... So you are a troll then. Forget the leaf ID. Janet Wrong thread. Nope; just another thread where the same gardenbanter poster is trolling nonsense. But I'll leave it to Meow to explain to Baz how to "set things up right and you can just go out and pick each year " potatoes, tomatoes, peas, broad beans and runner beans unlike the rest of us who plant or sow those crops annually, fertilise weed and water etc. Janet. Goodness me. You have lost the plot now!!!! You actually feel the need to fertilise and water weed? No typo excuse. The only thing I need to be explained to about, is how the hell did you manage to get on usenet!!!! With your absolute lack of your own perception? Baz ps:no need to reply |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in
: We now only grow the blight resistant tomatoes Ferline, Fantasio and the new cherry type Losetto (amazing cropper no-one would need more than two plants). They have only got blight in the last few weeks and only today have I pulled them up because it does not go straight throughout the plant like normal Toms so you still get a good crop. Even better if you spray with Bordeaux mixture as then they don't get blight at all. Peas, we use some old wire fencing we were given to dump by a neighbour, four old metal posts banged in and run the netting between, easy. I like the look of Losetto. What do they taste like. Sweet? or of nothing, as moneymakers do. I think at the moment I am stuck on Gardeners Delight and Sweet Million. Peas? Using plastic netting 4" type. Not a huge crop this year, but bearable |
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On 22/09/2013 13:26, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , Nick Maclaren wrote: Also, I can't find a variety of climbing blue French bean that doesn't some cropping at the first spell of cold or dry weather in September. ... Sigh. Doesn't STOP cropping. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Have you tried making a later sowing? |
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Jake wrote in
: On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:17:44 +0100, Janet wrote: unlike the rest of us who plant or sow those crops annually, fertilise weed and water etc. Then you must be drunk again, because as all can see, that's not what I wrote . Janet. I think Baz was having a bit of fun at the absence of a comma between "fertilise" and "weed" in your earlier post (which is what you did write). Yes, Jake. A bit of fun with an insane person. I think she could be a nice person with a bit of encoragement. Btw I have not had any alcoholic drinks for 2 years. And even when I did drink alcohol I have not ever ****ed off this janet thing. I know that I have been a pain in the past. I am sorting that now. Baz |
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In article , Baz wrote:
Also, I can't find a variety of climbing blue French bean that doesn't some cropping at the first spell of cold or dry weather in September. ... Sigh. Doesn't STOP cropping. OH! sigh. I bet it does stop! even as we speak! I bet that there are NO new beans forming. This sigh buisiness is abundant with people who think that they are a bit brainy. Not in your case, you are brainy. You don't have to sigh. I was sighing at my typo. "Some" was a word that I was going to use in the next sentence! I do things like that .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:30:44 GMT, Baz wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in : We now only grow the blight resistant tomatoes Ferline, Fantasio and the new cherry type Losetto (amazing cropper no-one would need more than two plants). They have only got blight in the last few weeks and only today have I pulled them up because it does not go straight throughout the plant like normal Toms so you still get a good crop. Even better if you spray with Bordeaux mixture as then they don't get blight at all. Peas, we use some old wire fencing we were given to dump by a neighbour, four old metal posts banged in and run the netting between, easy. I like the look of Losetto. What do they taste like. Sweet? or of nothing, as moneymakers do. Sungold have been amazing this year. Was given the plants by a friend. They are deliciously sweet, ripened early and we've had buckets of them. They make a lovely yellow chutney too! :) I think at the moment I am stuck on Gardeners Delight and Sweet Million. Peas? Using plastic netting 4" type. Not a huge crop this year, but bearable -- http://www.voucherfreebies.co.uk |
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David Hill wrote: Also, I can't find a variety of climbing blue French bean that doesn't some cropping at the first spell of cold or dry weather in September. ... Sigh. Doesn't STOP cropping. Have you tried making a later sowing? Yes. I meant what I said that the stopping is weather-induced. Planting them very late might help, but they probably wouldn't grow enough to crop - they don't grow well in cold weather, either! Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 23/09/2013 17:50, Baz wrote:
I am truly sorry for my vitrious words in the past. Offered for assistance, absolutely not as criticism - at a guess you meant something like vituperative? (Or vitreous enamel/humour:) -- regards andy |
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On 24/09/2013 09:36, Martin wrote:
I haven't smoked or chewed tobacco for 43 years. Snuff or suppository? -- regards andy |
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On 9/24/2013 9:13 AM, News wrote:
On 23/09/2013 17:50, Baz wrote: I am truly sorry for my vitrious words in the past. Offered for assistance, absolutely not as criticism - at a guess you meant something like vituperative? (Or vitreous enamel/humour:) Or vitriolic? |
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On 24/09/2013 11:18, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:52:52 +0100, News wrote: On 24/09/2013 09:36, Martin wrote: I haven't smoked or chewed tobacco for 43 years. Snuff or suppository? No thanks, your need is greater than mine. Actually, as someone that has not been very good at stopping smoking over the last 4 decades, I've settled on harm reduction. Since a year last May, I've been using ecigarrettes of one form or another - and not had a tobacco based cigarette since then. I'm sure that no nicotine would be much better, but in terms of harm reduction, its pretty much 98% of the way there. Shame that the EU and UK are going to treat them as medical devices from 2015 - nearly as effective as banning them. IMO, its a seriously backward step for harm reduction, and one that has, surprise, surprise, been lobbied for by the tobacco and pharma industries. That was the 30 second rant. I have more... -- regards andy |
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