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Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
It has been confirmed by the police that most of the thefts and vandalism
on our allotment site have been commited by the way of key theft. These keys have been pickpockeded from council workers who have actively been helping offenders who are either on parole or are on probation. They have stooped so low in smearing tool handles with poo, knowing that the user of that tool will get it on their hands. I have had nothing stolen, but know of others who have. The police are saying that a PCSO will help! What is wrong with a proper constabulary helping? Baz |
Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
"Baz" wrote ...
It has been confirmed by the police that most of the thefts and vandalism on our allotment site have been commited by the way of key theft. These keys have been pickpockeded from council workers who have actively been helping offenders who are either on parole or are on probation. They have stooped so low in smearing tool handles with poo, knowing that the user of that tool will get it on their hands. I have had nothing stolen, but know of others who have. The police are saying that a PCSO will help! What is wrong with a proper constabulary helping? It's a constant problem on allotment sites. Our site had not had any problems in living memory then we had the allotment boom and most of the new gardeners erected sheds which are just thief/vandal bait. Been raided twice so far. Much better to buy a trailer for your car and use that to drive your tools to and from the site, or get an old Defender van like me, then you have nothing to steal or get vandalised on site. Also useful for collecting manure and taking stuff down the dump and you get more land to work. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
"Bob Hobden" wrote in
: "Baz" wrote ... It has been confirmed by the police that most of the thefts and vandalism on our allotment site have been commited by the way of key theft. These keys have been pickpockeded from council workers who have actively been helping offenders who are either on parole or are on probation. They have stooped so low in smearing tool handles with poo, knowing that the user of that tool will get it on their hands. I have had nothing stolen, but know of others who have. The police are saying that a PCSO will help! What is wrong with a proper constabulary helping? It's a constant problem on allotment sites. Our site had not had any problems in living memory then we had the allotment boom and most of the new gardeners erected sheds which are just thief/vandal bait. Been raided twice so far. Much better to buy a trailer for your car and use that to drive your tools to and from the site, or get an old Defender van like me, then you have nothing to steal or get vandalised on site. Also useful for collecting manure and taking stuff down the dump and you get more land to work. Yep. It just seems negative though. It seems like the police want us to take the law in our hands. A bit of a clice that the law uses it's power to discriminate against drivers, because it is easy. Instead of catching violent criminals. Baz |
Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
On 2013-09-26 10:41:18 +0100, Martin said:
snip We have had theft of both vegetables and tools from our allotments, which are located in a private controlled high security area. There are thieves everywhere even amongst the highly paid. Quite recently, in a gardening article, a woman wrote that her veg on her allotment are regularly stolen. She said whoever the thief is must know the allotments well,, because everything is picked when it's just at the perfect 'ready' point. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
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Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
Martin wrote in
: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:17:59 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 2013-09-26 10:41:18 +0100, Martin said: snip We have had theft of both vegetables and tools from our allotments, which are located in a private controlled high security area. There are thieves everywhere even amongst the highly paid. Quite recently, in a gardening article, a woman wrote that her veg on her allotment are regularly stolen. She said whoever the thief is must know the allotments well,, because everything is picked when it's just at the perfect 'ready' point. Yes. We have one or two of those. If they would just ask permission.... The same happens on our allotments. Somebody has been stealing pumpkins frequently. Probably getting ahead of the game. Haloween is in November, and of course it is a lot cheaper to steal them early. For me it is the disgusting wanton harm they want to do to us. Baz |
Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
Janet wrote in news:MPG.2cae240a90ab0b30989be3
@news.individual.net: In article , says... take the law in our hands. A bit of a clice that the law uses it's power to discriminate against drivers, because it is easy. Instead of catching violent criminals. Or maybe it's because drivers kill maim and injure far more people than allotment vandals do. Janet I have never killed maimed or injured anyone and I am a driver. I don't know anyone who has. My property should be protected by the law. As my area police charter insists. My advice to you is to read the police charter for your area. "Maybe" is not enough of an excuse to dismiss the police obligation to uphold the law. Baz |
Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
On 26/09/2013 13:17, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:42:54 GMT, Baz wrote: Janet wrote in news:MPG.2cae240a90ab0b30989be3 @news.individual.net: In article , says... take the law in our hands. A bit of a clice that the law uses it's power to discriminate against drivers, because it is easy. Instead of catching violent criminals. Or maybe it's because drivers kill maim and injure far more people than allotment vandals do. Janet I have never killed maimed or injured anyone and I am a driver. I don't know anyone who has. I do. My property should be protected by the law. As my area police charter insists. My advice to you is to read the police charter for your area. "Maybe" is not enough of an excuse to dismiss the police obligation to uphold the law. We don't have any local police. The police station was closed long ago. It's interesting that it hasn't made any noticeable difference to crime. Sadly the police seem to administer the law these days,not just uphold it. They decide when to take action, not automatically when a law is broken. |
Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
Broadback wrote in
: On 26/09/2013 13:17, Martin wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:42:54 GMT, Baz wrote: Janet wrote in news:MPG.2cae240a90ab0b30989be3 @news.individual.net: In article , says... take the law in our hands. A bit of a clice that the law uses it's power to discriminate against drivers, because it is easy. Instead of catching violent criminals. Or maybe it's because drivers kill maim and injure far more people than allotment vandals do. Janet I have never killed maimed or injured anyone and I am a driver. I don't know anyone who has. I do. My property should be protected by the law. As my area police charter insists. My advice to you is to read the police charter for your area. "Maybe" is not enough of an excuse to dismiss the police obligation to uphold the law. We don't have any local police. The police station was closed long ago. It's interesting that it hasn't made any noticeable difference to crime. Sadly the police seem to administer the law these days,not just uphold it. They decide when to take action, not automatically when a law is broken. Yes, and that police action, or lack of it, can be seen as discrimination. I know that in my area that whether you are black or white, young or old, gay or hetrosexual, disabled or enabled, you are, or should be, entitled to the protection of the law. The police in real life seem to persecute those who perhaps need their guidance. Baz |
Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
"Sacha" wrote ...
Martin said: snip We have had theft of both vegetables and tools from our allotments, which are located in a private controlled high security area. There are thieves everywhere even amongst the highly paid. Quite recently, in a gardening article, a woman wrote that her veg on her allotment are regularly stolen. She said whoever the thief is must know the allotments well,, because everything is picked when it's just at the perfect 'ready' point. A friend with an allotment in Staines went down their early one morning and found an estate car parked outside the entrance with it's back open and lots of veg in there, on entering the site he found an unknown Chinese lady helping herself to whatever was ready. She drove off when she saw him. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:17:32 +0200, Martin wrote:
We don't have any local police. The police station was closed long ago. Snap. Our Police cover provided by a team of eight but that includes an Inspector, Sergeant and a PCSO. The Inspector covers other areas not just us. That number is barely enough to have at least one officer on patrol 24/7. They are also based about 20 miles away and have a patch of several hundred square miles to cover... It's interesting that it hasn't made any noticeable difference to crime. Locally there has been a spate of breakins 3 or 4 in the last couple of months. Normal rate is 2 or 3 a year... -- Cheers Dave. |
Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
On Thursday 26 September 2013 17:22 Janet wrote in uk.rec.gardening:
An allotment is not your private property. The fruits of it are though. -- Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://squiddy.blog.dionic.net/ http://www.sensorly.com/ Crowd mapping of 2G/3G/4G mobile signal coverage |
Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
Janet wrote in
t: In article , says... Janet wrote in news:MPG.2cae240a90ab0b30989be3 @news.individual.net: In article , says... take the law in our hands. A bit of a clice that the law uses it's power to discriminate against drivers, because it is easy. Instead of catching violent criminals. Or maybe it's because drivers kill maim and injure far more people than allotment vandals do. I have never killed maimed or injured anyone and I am a driver. I don't know anyone who has. Irrelevent. The police are kept busy by those who do and it's a higher priority than saving pumpkins. My property should be protected by the law. An allotment is not your private property. Janet. Dear Janet, Will you try, at least to read. I did not say it was my private property. I said....My property. (as in something in there belongs to me) You are starting to annoy me. That is because of your verbose arsehole, which seems to be your chosen oulet. You really don't learn, do you. Baz |
Stealing and vandalism on our allotment site
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:33:22 +0100, Broadback wrote: On 26/09/2013 13:17, Martin wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:42:54 GMT, Baz wrote: Janet wrote in news:MPG.2cae240a90ab0b30989be3 @news.individual.net: In article , says... take the law in our hands. A bit of a clice that the law uses it's power to discriminate against drivers, because it is easy. Instead of catching violent criminals. Or maybe it's because drivers kill maim and injure far more people than allotment vandals do. Janet I have never killed maimed or injured anyone and I am a driver. I don't know anyone who has. I do. My property should be protected by the law. As my area police charter insists. My advice to you is to read the police charter for your area. "Maybe" is not enough of an excuse to dismiss the police obligation to uphold the law. We don't have any local police. The police station was closed long ago. It's interesting that it hasn't made any noticeable difference to crime. Sadly the police seem to administer the law these days,not just uphold it. They decide when to take action, not automatically when a law is broken. Even more sadly when the police do catch a criminal often the magistrates let them off. -- Martin in Zuid Holland .....and this is often a source of great frustation for the police . The case falls through due to lack of evidence or some technical point of law. Bill |
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