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I am after putting in a hedge about 25 foot long to hide a brick wall but only have a very narrow border at the side of a path, approx 20 inches.

I need it to grow at max 5 foot high but can be trimmed to about 18/24 inches thick.

The brick wall is approx 2 foot high.

Would be grateful for any feedback.

Pete

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On 2013-10-02 13:10:18 +0100, pete_r said:

Hi

I am after putting in a hedge about 25 foot long to hide a brick wall
but only have a very narrow border at the side of a path, approx 20
inches.

I need it to grow at max 5 foot high but can be trimmed to about 18/24
inches thick.

The brick wall is approx 2 foot high.

Would be grateful for any feedback.

Pete


Is it in full sun or total shade/part shade. And which area of the
country do you live in? Do you want it to be evergreen?
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On 02/10/2013 13:10, pete_r wrote:
Hi

I am after putting in a hedge about 25 foot long to hide a brick wall
but only have a very narrow border at the side of a path, approx 20
inches.

I need it to grow at max 5 foot high but can be trimmed to about 18/24
inches thick.

The brick wall is approx 2 foot high.

Would be grateful for any feedback.

Pete




First thing that comes to mind is Pyracantha, flower, berries for the
birds in the winter, a good deterrent to any body wanting to climb over
the wall.
Choice of berry colour.

David @ the side of Swansea Bay where we are getting some of Sacha's
liquid sunshine
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On 02/10/2013 13:10, pete_r wrote:
Hi

I am after putting in a hedge about 25 foot long to hide a brick wall
but only have a very narrow border at the side of a path, approx 20
inches.

I need it to grow at max 5 foot high but can be trimmed to about 18/24
inches thick.

The brick wall is approx 2 foot high.

Would be grateful for any feedback.

Pete




First thing that comes to mind is Pyracantha, flower, berries for the birds
in the winter, a good deterrent to any body wanting to climb over the wall.
Choice of berry colour.


http://www.hedgenursery.co.uk/module...me.aspx?y=&l=p

I've bought 25 Elderberry from the above and split them with 5 other
allotmenteers. 3 years on, the plants are all healthy.

They wouldn't be suitable as a cover for a wall but they do sell Pyrocantha
in the colours David mentioned. 10 for 27.


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Hi

I am after putting in a hedge about 25 foot long to hide a brick wall but only have a very narrow border at the side of a path, approx 20 inches.

I need it to grow at max 5 foot high but can be trimmed to about 18/24 inches thick.

The brick wall is approx 2 foot high.

Would be grateful for any feedback.

Pete
I am in Derbyshire
I want an evergreen hedge
I can get to both sides of it to cut.
It is direct sunlight(when out lol)


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I am in Derbyshire
I want an evergreen hedge
I can get to both sides of it to cut.
It is direct sunlight(when out lol)
Pyracantha has quite hard wood, and most kinds have nasty thorns, so can be hard work to prune.

I think some kinds of berberis make excellent hedges, evergreen, nice flowers, berries (which make nice jam if you can be bothered), and thin shoots for easy pruning with an electric hedge trimmer. You can successfully keep a hedge just a foot thick out of suitable varieties of berberis. You can even choose purple leaves if you want. You can choose your variety from the hedge specialists. To reduce the pruning effort, choose a small one like Nana, though that will mean it will take a few years to get to 5 ft. Very winter hardy in general too, so would be fine even in Buxton.
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pete_r;993182 Wrote:
I am in Derbyshire
I want an evergreen hedge
I can get to both sides of it to cut.
It is direct sunlight(when out lol)

Pyracantha has quite hard wood, and most kinds have nasty thorns, so can
be hard work to prune.

I think some kinds of berberis make excellent hedges, evergreen, nice
flowers, berries (which make nice jam if you can be bothered), and thin
shoots for easy pruning with an electric hedge trimmer. You can
successfully keep a hedge just a foot thick out of suitable varieties of
berberis. You can even choose purple leaves if you want. You can choose
your variety from the hedge specialists. To reduce the pruning effort,
choose a small one like Nana, though that will mean it will take a few
years to get to 5 ft. Very winter hardy in general too, so would be fine
even in Buxton.


And Sambucus nigra can be used for hedging and is very pretty, as in
'Black Lace'. We have a few Beberis in the garden here and some are
pretty but some also have vicious thorns! Good old laurel is
attractive when well kept and so is Elaeagnus, though that too, can be
thorny.

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On 2013-10-04 11:51:43 +0100, echinosum said:
pete_r;993182 Wrote:

I am in Derbyshire
I want an evergreen hedge
I can get to both sides of it to cut.
It is direct sunlight(when out lol)

Pyracantha has quite hard wood, and most kinds have nasty thorns, so can
be hard work to prune.

I think some kinds of berberis make excellent hedges, evergreen, nice
flowers, berries (which make nice jam if you can be bothered), and thin
shoots for easy pruning with an electric hedge trimmer. You can
successfully keep a hedge just a foot thick out of suitable varieties of
berberis. You can even choose purple leaves if you want. You can choose
your variety from the hedge specialists. To reduce the pruning effort,
choose a small one like Nana, though that will mean it will take a few
years to get to 5 ft. Very winter hardy in general too, so would be fine
even in Buxton.


And Sambucus nigra can be used for hedging and is very pretty, as in
'Black Lace'. We have a few Beberis in the garden here and some are
pretty but some also have vicious thorns! Good old laurel is
attractive when well kept and so is Elaeagnus, though that too, can be
thorny.


I would strongly advise against Pyracantha, the larger and thornier
Berberis, Laurel and so on, because they are too vigorous for what
is a very small hedge. The smaller and less vicious Berberis, fine,
but there are a large number of relatively small evergreen shrubs.
I don't grow many, so can't recommend offhand.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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On 04/10/2013 17:13, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Sacha wrote:
On 2013-10-04 11:51:43 +0100, echinosum said:
pete_r;993182 Wrote:

I am in Derbyshire
I want an evergreen hedge
I can get to both sides of it to cut.
It is direct sunlight(when out lol)
Pyracantha has quite hard wood, and most kinds have nasty thorns, so can
be hard work to prune.

I think some kinds of berberis make excellent hedges, evergreen, nice
flowers, berries (which make nice jam if you can be bothered), and thin
shoots for easy pruning with an electric hedge trimmer. You can
successfully keep a hedge just a foot thick out of suitable varieties of
berberis. You can even choose purple leaves if you want. You can choose
your variety from the hedge specialists. To reduce the pruning effort,
choose a small one like Nana, though that will mean it will take a few
years to get to 5 ft. Very winter hardy in general too, so would be fine
even in Buxton.


And Sambucus nigra can be used for hedging and is very pretty, as in
'Black Lace'. We have a few Beberis in the garden here and some are
pretty but some also have vicious thorns! Good old laurel is
attractive when well kept and so is Elaeagnus, though that too, can be
thorny.


I would strongly advise against Pyracantha, the larger and thornier
Berberis, Laurel and so on, because they are too vigorous for what
is a very small hedge. The smaller and less vicious Berberis, fine,
but there are a large number of relatively small evergreen shrubs.
I don't grow many, so can't recommend offhand.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

A 5ft hedge isn't that small,
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David Hill wrote:
On 04/10/2013 17:13, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Sacha wrote:
On 2013-10-04 11:51:43 +0100, echinosum said:
pete_r;993182 Wrote:

I am in Derbyshire
I want an evergreen hedge
I can get to both sides of it to cut.
It is direct sunlight(when out lol)
Pyracantha has quite hard wood, and most kinds have nasty thorns, so can
be hard work to prune.

I think some kinds of berberis make excellent hedges, evergreen, nice
flowers, berries (which make nice jam if you can be bothered), and thin
shoots for easy pruning with an electric hedge trimmer. You can
successfully keep a hedge just a foot thick out of suitable varieties of
berberis. You can even choose purple leaves if you want. You can choose
your variety from the hedge specialists. To reduce the pruning effort,
choose a small one like Nana, though that will mean it will take a few
years to get to 5 ft. Very winter hardy in general too, so would be fine
even in Buxton.

And Sambucus nigra can be used for hedging and is very pretty, as in
'Black Lace'. We have a few Beberis in the garden here and some are
pretty but some also have vicious thorns! Good old laurel is
attractive when well kept and so is Elaeagnus, though that too, can be
thorny.


I would strongly advise against Pyracantha, the larger and thornier
Berberis, Laurel and so on, because they are too vigorous for what
is a very small hedge. The smaller and less vicious Berberis, fine,
but there are a large number of relatively small evergreen shrubs.
I don't grow many, so can't recommend offhand.

A 5ft hedge isn't that small,


If I recall correctly, it is to go in a 20" wide bed and to hide
a 2' wall.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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You are about right Nick and I have been wondering why some of the thorny
ones and 5ft high have been recommended.

But then, what do I know?

Mike

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ...

In article ,
David Hill wrote:
On 04/10/2013 17:13, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Sacha wrote:
On 2013-10-04 11:51:43 +0100, echinosum said:
pete_r;993182 Wrote:

I am in Derbyshire
I want an evergreen hedge
I can get to both sides of it to cut.
It is direct sunlight(when out lol)
Pyracantha has quite hard wood, and most kinds have nasty thorns, so
can
be hard work to prune.

I think some kinds of berberis make excellent hedges, evergreen, nice
flowers, berries (which make nice jam if you can be bothered), and thin
shoots for easy pruning with an electric hedge trimmer. You can
successfully keep a hedge just a foot thick out of suitable varieties
of
berberis. You can even choose purple leaves if you want. You can
choose
your variety from the hedge specialists. To reduce the pruning effort,
choose a small one like Nana, though that will mean it will take a few
years to get to 5 ft. Very winter hardy in general too, so would be
fine
even in Buxton.

And Sambucus nigra can be used for hedging and is very pretty, as in
'Black Lace'. We have a few Beberis in the garden here and some are
pretty but some also have vicious thorns! Good old laurel is
attractive when well kept and so is Elaeagnus, though that too, can be
thorny.


I would strongly advise against Pyracantha, the larger and thornier
Berberis, Laurel and so on, because they are too vigorous for what
is a very small hedge. The smaller and less vicious Berberis, fine,
but there are a large number of relatively small evergreen shrubs.
I don't grow many, so can't recommend offhand.

A 5ft hedge isn't that small,


If I recall correctly, it is to go in a 20" wide bed and to hide
a 2' wall.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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On 04/10/2013 19:10, Jake wrote:
Given that you need something narrow and evergreen, I'm going to
suggest that you look at lonicera nitida. There is a green version and
also one which is more golden in colour. Both are small leaved
evergreen shrubs which don't flower.


Also silver variegated and golden variegated forms
If you can find someone with hedges of them they may well give you all
the cuttings you want, and these pushed into the soil before Xmas will
root by spring.


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