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David.WE.Roberts 14-10-2013 05:35 PM

Winter flowering plants for very large shallow containers
 
This year I have grown tomatoes and cucumbers in plastic bags - wide and
shallow - and they have done O.K.

I am now left with these containers for the winter.

I can just leave them, empty them (leaving a blot on the back garden where
they sat), or find a nice winter flowering bedding plant to cheer them up
until spring.

Not having that much success, though.

Do pansies and primroses flower through the winter?

Is there anything else obvious and 'off the shelf' which would do?

Cheers

Dave R

Jeff Layman[_2_] 14-10-2013 06:04 PM

Winter flowering plants for very large shallow containers
 
On 14/10/2013 17:35, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
This year I have grown tomatoes and cucumbers in plastic bags - wide and
shallow - and they have done O.K.

I am now left with these containers for the winter.

I can just leave them, empty them (leaving a blot on the back garden where
they sat), or find a nice winter flowering bedding plant to cheer them up
until spring.

Not having that much success, though.

Do pansies and primroses flower through the winter?

Is there anything else obvious and 'off the shelf' which would do?

Cheers

Dave R


Never grown or even bought one, and they aren't exactly flowers, but
what about those ornamental cabbages? They aren't cheap, though.

--

Jeff

David Hill 14-10-2013 06:07 PM

Winter flowering plants for very large shallow containers
 
On 14/10/2013 18:04, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 14/10/2013 17:35, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
This year I have grown tomatoes and cucumbers in plastic bags - wide and
shallow - and they have done O.K.

I am now left with these containers for the winter.

I can just leave them, empty them (leaving a blot on the back garden
where
they sat), or find a nice winter flowering bedding plant to cheer them up
until spring.

Not having that much success, though.

Do pansies and primroses flower through the winter?

Is there anything else obvious and 'off the shelf' which would do?

Cheers

Dave R


Never grown or even bought one, and they aren't exactly flowers, but
what about those ornamental cabbages? They aren't cheap, though.

If you look around you might find bare rooted wallflower plants, it's a
good time to plant them now. Much better than small container/transplants.

David.WE.Roberts 14-10-2013 07:16 PM

Winter flowering plants for very large shallow containers
 
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:07:34 +0100, David Hill wrote:

On 14/10/2013 18:04, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 14/10/2013 17:35, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
This year I have grown tomatoes and cucumbers in plastic bags - wide
and shallow - and they have done O.K.

I am now left with these containers for the winter.

I can just leave them, empty them (leaving a blot on the back garden
where they sat), or find a nice winter flowering bedding plant to
cheer them up until spring.

Not having that much success, though.

Do pansies and primroses flower through the winter?

Is there anything else obvious and 'off the shelf' which would do?

Cheers

Dave R


Never grown or even bought one, and they aren't exactly flowers, but
what about those ornamental cabbages? They aren't cheap, though.

If you look around you might find bare rooted wallflower plants, it's a
good time to plant them now. Much better than small
container/transplants.


Will they flower between now and February?

Spider[_3_] 14-10-2013 07:23 PM

Winter flowering plants for very large shallow containers
 
On 14/10/2013 17:35, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
This year I have grown tomatoes and cucumbers in plastic bags - wide and
shallow - and they have done O.K.

I am now left with these containers for the winter.

I can just leave them, empty them (leaving a blot on the back garden where
they sat), or find a nice winter flowering bedding plant to cheer them up
until spring.

Not having that much success, though.

Do pansies and primroses flower through the winter?

Is there anything else obvious and 'off the shelf' which would do?

Cheers

Dave R




I am concerned that this mere 'plastic bag' is not going to offer frost
protection for your plants. If you could put the compost in a tub or
trough raised off the ground, then I think you have a chance.

I would start with a smallish Skimmia (often sold for just this
purpose), as it offers modest evergreen structure. I would underplant
with as many hyacinths as you can cram in (for later Spring interest),
then cover the remaining bare earth with either polyanthus,bellis or
pansies (which ever is best at the time). Whilst planting these, I
would also tuck in as many early-flowering crocuses as possible.

The good thing about the bulbs as that they carry their own food store,
so will cope with the impoverished compost. Most, if not all, of these
plants can go in the garden later, so there will be very little wastage.

--
Spider.
On high ground in SE London
gardening on heavy clay


David.WE.Roberts 14-10-2013 07:40 PM

Winter flowering plants for very large shallow containers
 
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 19:23:57 +0100, Spider wrote:

On 14/10/2013 17:35, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
This year I have grown tomatoes and cucumbers in plastic bags - wide
and shallow - and they have done O.K.

I am now left with these containers for the winter.

I can just leave them, empty them (leaving a blot on the back garden
where they sat), or find a nice winter flowering bedding plant to cheer
them up until spring.

Not having that much success, though.

Do pansies and primroses flower through the winter?

Is there anything else obvious and 'off the shelf' which would do?

Cheers

Dave R




I am concerned that this mere 'plastic bag' is not going to offer frost
protection for your plants. If you could put the compost in a tub or
trough raised off the ground, then I think you have a chance.

I would start with a smallish Skimmia (often sold for just this
purpose), as it offers modest evergreen structure. I would underplant
with as many hyacinths as you can cram in (for later Spring interest),
then cover the remaining bare earth with either polyanthus,bellis or
pansies (which ever is best at the time). Whilst planting these, I
would also tuck in as many early-flowering crocuses as possible.

The good thing about the bulbs as that they carry their own food store,
so will cope with the impoverished compost. Most, if not all, of these
plants can go in the garden later, so there will be very little wastage.


Thanks - however (although I didn't make it clear) the 'paddling pools' of
compost ARE the garden - nowhere to plant out afterwards.

This is a short term exercise for November to February/March just to
pretty up three areas of compost instead of leaving them bare or removing
them to leave bare earth underneath.

So bulbs are probably out.

This is why I was looking at winter bedding as something which could be
discarded before Easter.

Frost, torrential rain, long term snow - all these are likely.

I guess you could regard these as temporary raised beds with regards to
frost.

Cheers

Dave R

David.WE.Roberts 14-10-2013 09:11 PM

Winter flowering plants for very large shallow containers
 
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 20:56:13 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:

On 14 Oct 2013 16:35:03 GMT, "David.WE.Roberts"
wrote:

This year I have grown tomatoes and cucumbers in plastic bags - wide and
shallow - and they have done O.K.

I am now left with these containers for the winter.

I can just leave them, empty them (leaving a blot on the back garden
where they sat), or find a nice winter flowering bedding plant to cheer
them up until spring.

Not having that much success, though.

Do pansies and primroses flower through the winter?

Is there anything else obvious and 'off the shelf' which would do?

Cheers

Dave R


Browse this lot; You should find something to suit.

http://tinyurl.com/lw39bz6


O.K. - looks as though pansies and violas may be up to the job.

Now to locate somewhere that sells them by the yard :-)


Spider[_3_] 14-10-2013 10:39 PM

Winter flowering plants for very large shallow containers
 
On 14/10/2013 19:40, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 19:23:57 +0100, Spider wrote:

On 14/10/2013 17:35, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
This year I have grown tomatoes and cucumbers in plastic bags - wide
and shallow - and they have done O.K.

I am now left with these containers for the winter.

I can just leave them, empty them (leaving a blot on the back garden
where they sat), or find a nice winter flowering bedding plant to cheer
them up until spring.

Not having that much success, though.

Do pansies and primroses flower through the winter?

Is there anything else obvious and 'off the shelf' which would do?

Cheers

Dave R




I am concerned that this mere 'plastic bag' is not going to offer frost
protection for your plants. If you could put the compost in a tub or
trough raised off the ground, then I think you have a chance.

I would start with a smallish Skimmia (often sold for just this
purpose), as it offers modest evergreen structure. I would underplant
with as many hyacinths as you can cram in (for later Spring interest),
then cover the remaining bare earth with either polyanthus,bellis or
pansies (which ever is best at the time). Whilst planting these, I
would also tuck in as many early-flowering crocuses as possible.

The good thing about the bulbs as that they carry their own food store,
so will cope with the impoverished compost. Most, if not all, of these
plants can go in the garden later, so there will be very little wastage.


Thanks - however (although I didn't make it clear) the 'paddling pools' of
compost ARE the garden - nowhere to plant out afterwards.

This is a short term exercise for November to February/March just to
pretty up three areas of compost instead of leaving them bare or removing
them to leave bare earth underneath.

So bulbs are probably out.

This is why I was looking at winter bedding as something which could be
discarded before Easter.

Frost, torrential rain, long term snow - all these are likely.

I guess you could regard these as temporary raised beds with regards to
frost.

Cheers

Dave R



Oh dear. Well, that really does only leave bedding. I do understand
that you want something pretty to look at, but even the most floriferous
winter bedding will only flower during peaks of better weather. The
sort of weather you predict will inhibit, batter and drown, then bury
your flowers :~(.

If you can foresee some dryer, sunnier breaks in this forbidding gloom
and tempest, then by all means plant some polyanthus and walk around
whistling with your fingers crossed. I suspect you will see some
flowers, but I doubt it will be a heart-warming display.

A better idea would be to use your garden to feed the birds. I find it
hard to peel myself away from the window once I've put food out. It can
make a most cheering site. It isn't cheap (cheep!), but both you and
the birds will enjoy it.
--
Spider.
On high ground in SE London
gardening on heavy clay


David Hill 14-10-2013 11:51 PM

Winter flowering plants for very large shallow containers
 
On 14/10/2013 19:40, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 19:23:57 +0100, Spider wrote:

On 14/10/2013 17:35, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
This year I have grown tomatoes and cucumbers in plastic bags - wide
and shallow - and they have done O.K.

I am now left with these containers for the winter.

I can just leave them, empty them (leaving a blot on the back garden
where they sat), or find a nice winter flowering bedding plant to cheer
them up until spring.

Not having that much success, though.

Do pansies and primroses flower through the winter?

Is there anything else obvious and 'off the shelf' which would do?

Cheers

Dave R




I am concerned that this mere 'plastic bag' is not going to offer frost
protection for your plants. If you could put the compost in a tub or
trough raised off the ground, then I think you have a chance.

I would start with a smallish Skimmia (often sold for just this
purpose), as it offers modest evergreen structure. I would underplant
with as many hyacinths as you can cram in (for later Spring interest),
then cover the remaining bare earth with either polyanthus,bellis or
pansies (which ever is best at the time). Whilst planting these, I
would also tuck in as many early-flowering crocuses as possible.

The good thing about the bulbs as that they carry their own food store,
so will cope with the impoverished compost. Most, if not all, of these
plants can go in the garden later, so there will be very little wastage.


Thanks - however (although I didn't make it clear) the 'paddling pools' of
compost ARE the garden - nowhere to plant out afterwards.

This is a short term exercise for November to February/March just to
pretty up three areas of compost instead of leaving them bare or removing
them to leave bare earth underneath.

So bulbs are probably out.

This is why I was looking at winter bedding as something which could be
discarded before Easter.

Frost, torrential rain, long term snow - all these are likely.

I guess you could regard these as temporary raised beds with regards to
frost.

Cheers

Dave R

You don't say where you are.
Wallflowers are spring flowering was always the thing to pull the
wallflowers out after flowering to plant summer bedding.
You say you only want something there till Feb?
Why so early?
"Winter" bedding will come into it's best early spring March/April/May
If you only want something with colour November to Feb then I'd look at
artificial flowers that you can remove Feb, pack away and use again next
year.


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