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We're looking for a reliable courier who would deliver plants within
the EU. Many refuse to handle plants because of all the risks involved with damage or delay. If anyone happens to know of such a company I'd be very glad to hear of it. will get emails to me. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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Sacha wrote in news:bc4johFibr8U1
@mid.individual.net: We're looking for a reliable courier who would deliver plants within the EU. Many refuse to handle plants because of all the risks involved with damage or delay. If anyone happens to know of such a company I'd be very glad to hear of it. will get emails to me. Well I get plants from T&M, Parkers and Marshalls sometimes,(not very often) and they use a variety of couriers. It works for them as it surely would for you. You can ring Parkers and find out who they use, they are the most helpful IME. They all deliver within the EU as far as I know. Parkers and their couriers do, I know that much. I have sent my daughter a few plants to her in Porto. Mainly miniature rose. They remind her of home(England, not the adress/home) Hope this helps, Sacha Baz |
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On 2013-10-15 11:42:21 +0000, Baz said:
Sacha wrote in news:bc4johFibr8U1 @mid.individual.net: We're looking for a reliable courier who would deliver plants within the EU. Many refuse to handle plants because of all the risks involved with damage or delay. If anyone happens to know of such a company I'd be very glad to hear of it. will get emails to me. Well I get plants from T&M, Parkers and Marshalls sometimes,(not very often) and they use a variety of couriers. It works for them as it surely would for you. You can ring Parkers and find out who they use, they are the most helpful IME. They all deliver within the EU as far as I know. Parkers and their couriers do, I know that much. I have sent my daughter a few plants to her in Porto. Mainly miniature rose. They remind her of home(England, not the adress/home) Hope this helps, Sacha Baz Thanks Baz. I'll ask Parkers about it. It may depend on size though - cue awful jokes! We send our plants out at 1m tall at the highest and rarely less than 45cm, which may have a bearing on what the couriers take/charge. Weight certainly does and at present we stick at 1m height, otherwise the price goes up steeply. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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sacha wrote in
: On 2013-10-15 11:42:21 +0000, Baz said: Sacha wrote in news:bc4johFibr8U1 @mid.individual.net: We're looking for a reliable courier who would deliver plants within the EU. Many refuse to handle plants because of all the risks involved with damage or delay. If anyone happens to know of such a company I'd be very glad to hear of it. will get emails to me. Well I get plants from T&M, Parkers and Marshalls sometimes,(not very often) and they use a variety of couriers. It works for them as it surely would for you. You can ring Parkers and find out who they use, they are the most helpful IME. They all deliver within the EU as far as I know. Parkers and their couriers do, I know that much. I have sent my daughter a few plants to her in Porto. Mainly miniature rose. They remind her of home(England, not the adress/home) Hope this helps, Sacha Baz Thanks Baz. I'll ask Parkers about it. It may depend on size though - cue awful jokes! We send our plants out at 1m tall at the highest and rarely less than 45cm, which may have a bearing on what the couriers take/charge. Weight certainly does and at present we stick at 1m height, otherwise the price goes up steeply. Yes weight. Sorry that I can't help now. Baz |
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On 2013-10-15 15:00:19 +0000, Jake said:
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:29:37 +0100, Sacha wrote: We're looking for a reliable courier who would deliver plants within the EU. Many refuse to handle plants because of all the risks involved with damage or delay. If anyone happens to know of such a company I'd be very glad to hear of it. will get emails to me. DHL quote 1-2 days for delivery within the EU. Their max parcel size is 120x80x80cm. In the past they have handled plants (I can't speak for today though and IME the plants were dormant) and you may need to open an account with them rather than be a "casual customer". IIRC their prices start at around £35 a parcel and may be calculated by volume rather than by weight - a large light parcel may cost more than a small heavy one. I would worry a bit as international handling will probably be worse than within-UK handling though. You may need stronger boxes! Actually, I've had a really helpful email from an urgler which has crystallised our thinking about this, if we're going to do it at all. We would send out only 9cm pots in spring or autumn. This would mean more plants and lighter parcels and also that plants wouldn't be travelling in the hottest (we hope!) parts of the year. It has surprised us that we get fairly frequent enquiries from abroad. I say 'surprised us' because given the climate in e.g. Majorca and other much warmer places, it's amazing that some of the things we grow aren't being supplied by Nurseries in those countries. Some years ago, we even had a garden designer from Madeira buying things here which were supposedly native there but which he couldn't find there! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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On 15/10/2013 16:07, sacha wrote:
On 2013-10-15 15:00:19 +0000, Jake said: On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:29:37 +0100, Sacha wrote: We're looking for a reliable courier who would deliver plants within the EU. Many refuse to handle plants because of all the risks involved with damage or delay. If anyone happens to know of such a company I'd be very glad to hear of it. will get emails to me. DHL quote 1-2 days for delivery within the EU. Their max parcel size is 120x80x80cm. In the past they have handled plants (I can't speak for today though and IME the plants were dormant) and you may need to open an account with them rather than be a "casual customer". IIRC their prices start at around £35 a parcel and may be calculated by volume rather than by weight - a large light parcel may cost more than a small heavy one. I would worry a bit as international handling will probably be worse than within-UK handling though. You may need stronger boxes! Actually, I've had a really helpful email from an urgler which has crystallised our thinking about this, if we're going to do it at all. We would send out only 9cm pots in spring or autumn. This would mean more plants and lighter parcels and also that plants wouldn't be travelling in the hottest (we hope!) parts of the year. It has surprised us that we get fairly frequent enquiries from abroad. I say 'surprised us' because given the climate in e.g. Majorca and other much warmer places, it's amazing that some of the things we grow aren't being supplied by Nurseries in those countries. Some years ago, we even had a garden designer from Madeira buying things here which were supposedly native there but which he couldn't find there! I've had a few deliveries by DPD in the last few months, very impressed, first class tracking service and you can track your delivery right to your door, They give a local map showing where the van is and how many deliveries before yours, estimated delivery time and so far they have bee right to within 5 mins, twice early. They seem to do a good European service and their price seems competitive. Worth contacting them. David |
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sacha wrote in
: On 2013-10-15 11:42:21 +0000, Baz said: Sacha wrote in news:bc4johFibr8U1 @mid.individual.net: We're looking for a reliable courier who would deliver plants within the EU. Many refuse to handle plants because of all the risks involved with damage or delay. If anyone happens to know of such a company I'd be very glad to hear of it. will get emails to me. Well I get plants from T&M, Parkers and Marshalls sometimes,(not very often) and they use a variety of couriers. It works for them as it surely would for you. You can ring Parkers and find out who they use, they are the most helpful IME. They all deliver within the EU as far as I know. Parkers and their couriers do, I know that much. I have sent my daughter a few plants to her in Porto. Mainly miniature rose. They remind her of home(England, not the adress/home) Hope this helps, Sacha Baz Thanks Baz. I'll ask Parkers about it. It may depend on size though - cue awful jokes! We send our plants out at 1m tall at the highest and rarely less than 45cm, which may have a bearing on what the couriers take/charge. Weight certainly does and at present we stick at 1m height, otherwise the price goes up steeply. So then you CAN do it, but it is the weight? And the £ that go with it? I don't know if a person or company can supply, and be profitable in those circumstances. I know that it costs me an arm and a leg. Is there a deal you can do? Baz |
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On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:29:37 +0100, Sacha
wrote: We're looking for a reliable courier who would deliver plants within the EU. Many refuse to handle plants because of all the risks involved with damage or delay. If anyone happens to know of such a company I'd be very glad to hear of it. will get emails to me. Please use Royal Mail. They may not be terribly reliable but any support for the business will, I am sure, be appreciated by shareholders everywhere. -- rbel |
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On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:35:22 +0100, Mike wrote:
All very well touting for trade in the EU, but will you be accepting Euros and how will the business transaction take place? Easy enough to have a bank account in euros, transfer to GBP when the price is right if you need to. I'm wondering about any regulations regarding the export/import of live plant material and soil etc. Or is any thought of pest/disease control against "free trade" and thus sacrificed on the alter of the all powerful god, MONEY. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Dave do you have the Euro Bank account overseas and transfer to the UK as and when, or can you have a Euro Bank account here? Got something in mind for next year and the idea of Europe as a market hadn't occurred to me. Only got the idea when I saw Sacha advertised that she was doing mail order into the EU. Mine is an easier product to dispatch :-) Mike --------------------------------------------------------------- www.rneba.org.uk "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:35:22 +0100, Mike wrote: All very well touting for trade in the EU, but will you be accepting Euros and how will the business transaction take place? Easy enough to have a bank account in euros, transfer to GBP when the price is right if you need to. I'm wondering about any regulations regarding the export/import of live plant material and soil etc. Or is any thought of pest/disease control against "free trade" and thus sacrificed on the alter of the all powerful god, MONEY. -- Cheers Dave. |
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"Jake" wrote in message ... On 15 Oct 2013 16:18:56 GMT, Emery Davis wrote: Above all steer clear of DHL, I have worked with them on and off for many years and they are absolutely the worst. I had a DHL package from the states recently for which I paid about $50, it took over a month and they didn't even try to deliver, just left a message on the answering machine eventually. Such is life. I've used DHL for both outbound and inbound (where I arranged for them to collect from Germany and deliver to me in UK). Never a problem and in all cases collection to delivery was no more than 2 days. Try living here, it takes DHL 3 DAYS to get a parcel to me from Inverness, but of course that is 41 miles! Phil Northern Highlands of Scotland |
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Phil, it took the Royal Navy five days to get me from Rosyth to Durness!! Train to Lairg then 'the daily bus' to Durness. Fantastic scenery and well worth the trip. Mike --------------------------------------------------------------- www.rneba.org.uk "Phil Gurr" wrote in message ... "Jake" wrote in message ... On 15 Oct 2013 16:18:56 GMT, Emery Davis wrote: Above all steer clear of DHL, I have worked with them on and off for many years and they are absolutely the worst. I had a DHL package from the states recently for which I paid about $50, it took over a month and they didn't even try to deliver, just left a message on the answering machine eventually. Such is life. I've used DHL for both outbound and inbound (where I arranged for them to collect from Germany and deliver to me in UK). Never a problem and in all cases collection to delivery was no more than 2 days. Try living here, it takes DHL 3 DAYS to get a parcel to me from Inverness, but of course that is 41 miles! Phil Northern Highlands of Scotland |
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On 2013-10-15 17:38:28 +0100, Baz said:
sacha wrote in : On 2013-10-15 11:42:21 +0000, Baz said: Sacha wrote in news:bc4johFibr8U1 @mid.individual.net: We're looking for a reliable courier who would deliver plants within the EU. Many refuse to handle plants because of all the risks involved with damage or delay. If anyone happens to know of such a company I'd be very glad to hear of it. will get emails to me. Well I get plants from T&M, Parkers and Marshalls sometimes,(not very often) and they use a variety of couriers. It works for them as it surely would for you. You can ring Parkers and find out who they use, they are the most helpful IME. They all deliver within the EU as far as I know. Parkers and their couriers do, I know that much. I have sent my daughter a few plants to her in Porto. Mainly miniature rose. They remind her of home(England, not the adress/home) Hope this helps, Sacha Baz Thanks Baz. I'll ask Parkers about it. It may depend on size though - cue awful jokes! We send our plants out at 1m tall at the highest and rarely less than 45cm, which may have a bearing on what the couriers take/charge. Weight certainly does and at present we stick at 1m height, otherwise the price goes up steeply. So then you CAN do it, but it is the weight? And the £ that go with it? I don't know if a person or company can supply, and be profitable in those circumstances. I know that it costs me an arm and a leg. Is there a deal you can do? Baz As far as I can see, all couriers including the PO, eforce size limits and weight limits, though they do vary. Our situation - if we send out more mature plants - is that they're up to 1m in neight but must weight below 25kg (iirc) which isn't a weight we're every going to get to in one box which will usually contain up to 5 plants, sometimes 6. If you stick within the parameters the courier we use has a flat rate. The PO calculates by volume and weight for each indvidual parcel, I believe. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2013-10-15 17:27:53 +0100, Jake said:
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 16:07:46 +0100, sacha wrote: Some years ago, we even had a garden designer from Madeira buying things here which were supposedly native there but which he couldn't find there! Try and find a copy of Russell Page's "Education of a Gardener" (out of print but often a couple of quid on Amazon Marketplace). He talks about having to venture far afield when designing gardens around the Mediterranean because local growers only grew a couple of varieties which the "more common" locals would buy. Think how much effort we need to make to find that just slightly unusual summer bedding plant - places which stopped selling Walleriana 6-packs replaced them on the shelves with Begonia 6-packs, not New Guinea 6-packs - round here at least you can only but NGs in garden centres as large plants for £5+ each. Interesting, Jake, I'll pass that on to The Bosses. But it seems to me that this whole business is a bit like supermarkets moving into an area, causing smaller family-run businesses to close down. The erstwhile customers of those butchers, greengrocers and bakers then have no choice but to buy what the supermarket has for sale. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2013-10-15 17:32:48 +0100, David Hill said:
On 15/10/2013 16:07, sacha wrote: On 2013-10-15 15:00:19 +0000, Jake said: On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:29:37 +0100, Sacha wrote: We're looking for a reliable courier who would deliver plants within the EU. Many refuse to handle plants because of all the risks involved with damage or delay. If anyone happens to know of such a company I'd be very glad to hear of it. will get emails to me. DHL quote 1-2 days for delivery within the EU. Their max parcel size is 120x80x80cm. In the past they have handled plants (I can't speak for today though and IME the plants were dormant) and you may need to open an account with them rather than be a "casual customer". IIRC their prices start at around £35 a parcel and may be calculated by volume rather than by weight - a large light parcel may cost more than a small heavy one. I would worry a bit as international handling will probably be worse than within-UK handling though. You may need stronger boxes! Actually, I've had a really helpful email from an urgler which has crystallised our thinking about this, if we're going to do it at all. We would send out only 9cm pots in spring or autumn. This would mean more plants and lighter parcels and also that plants wouldn't be travelling in the hottest (we hope!) parts of the year. It has surprised us that we get fairly frequent enquiries from abroad. I say 'surprised us' because given the climate in e.g. Majorca and other much warmer places, it's amazing that some of the things we grow aren't being supplied by Nurseries in those countries. Some years ago, we even had a garden designer from Madeira buying things here which were supposedly native there but which he couldn't find there! I've had a few deliveries by DPD in the last few months, very impressed, first class tracking service and you can track your delivery right to your door, They give a local map showing where the van is and how many deliveries before yours, estimated delivery time and so far they have bee right to within 5 mins, twice early. They seem to do a good European service and their price seems competitive. Worth contacting them. David Thanks David. I'll see what they have to say. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2013-10-15 19:23:59 +0100, rbel said:
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:29:37 +0100, Sacha wrote: We're looking for a reliable courier who would deliver plants within the EU. Many refuse to handle plants because of all the risks involved with damage or delay. If anyone happens to know of such a company I'd be very glad to hear of it. will get emails to me. Please use Royal Mail. They may not be terribly reliable but any support for the business will, I am sure, be appreciated by shareholders everywhere. ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 10/15/2013 10:16 PM, Phil Gurr wrote:
Try living here, it takes DHL 3 DAYS to get a parcel to me from Inverness, but of course that is 41 miles! I had a pleasant surprise yesterday - TNT delivered an order from Staples, which I had placed the previous afternoon - and I'm even farther north than you are! |
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"S Viemeister" wrote in message ... On 10/15/2013 10:16 PM, Phil Gurr wrote: Try living here, it takes DHL 3 DAYS to get a parcel to me from Inverness, but of course that is 41 miles! I had a pleasant surprise yesterday - TNT delivered an order from Staples, which I had placed the previous afternoon - and I'm even farther north than you are! Ah, but TNT don't have an intermediate depot at Tain! Phil |
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On 10/16/2013 3:34 PM, Phil Gurr wrote:
"S wrote On 10/15/2013 10:16 PM, Phil Gurr wrote: Try living here, it takes DHL 3 DAYS to get a parcel to me from Inverness, but of course that is 41 miles! I had a pleasant surprise yesterday - TNT delivered an order from Staples, which I had placed the previous afternoon - and I'm even farther north than you are! Ah, but TNT don't have an intermediate depot at Tain! Ah. I didn't know that. |
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On 2013-10-15 19:47:59 +0000, Dave Liquorice said:
snip I'm wondering about any regulations regarding the export/import of live plant material and soil etc. Or is any thought of pest/disease control against "free trade" and thus sacrificed on the alter of the all powerful god, MONEY. Seriously? Are you really unaware of the enormous amount of big business that already exists in the import of live plants into UK? Numerous wholesale nurseries in UK make a living out of selling on stock that has been imported from within the EU. Some gcs or nurseries mark plants as raised in UK which have in fact been propagated abroad in vast quantities, brought into UK and then potted on. This trade has arisen partly because the industry here has received so little support in terms of e.g. oil prices that it simply doesn't pay to do everything from scratch in UK for the huge garden centre chains. There is now a growing movement towards buying British propagated and raised plants where ever possible and this trend is even stronger in the cut flower and bulb trade. There is free movement of live plants within the EU with some exceptions for things such as potatoes, which might be subject to certification from the PHSI. Things brought in from outside EU (except small amounts for your own garden) require a Phytosanitary Certificate. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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On 17/10/2013 13:44, sacha wrote:
Some gcs or nurseries mark plants as raised in UK which have in fact been propagated abroad in vast quantities, brought into UK and then potted on. A disgraceful and misleading practice - and one that a lot of the large food providers also pull:( This trade has arisen partly because the industry here has received so little support in terms of e.g. oil prices that it simply doesn't pay to do everything from scratch in UK for the huge garden centre chains. Why should they receive any assistance - and from where? Wouldn't it be an illegal subsidy? -- regards andy |
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On 2013-10-17 13:50:23 +0000, News said:
On 17/10/2013 13:44, sacha wrote: Some gcs or nurseries mark plants as raised in UK which have in fact been propagated abroad in vast quantities, brought into UK and then potted on. A disgraceful and misleading practice - and one that a lot of the large food providers also pull:( Except that nobody is eating their paeonies that we know of and that I don't think we've known of one customer ask the provenance of a plant. Equally, we don't label them misleadingly but we DO know of someone selling organic herbs as "potted in UK". Guess where they were propagated. Caveat emptor. This trade has arisen partly because the industry here has received so little support in terms of e.g. oil prices that it simply doesn't pay to do everything from scratch in UK for the huge garden centre chains. Why should they receive any assistance - and from where? Wouldn't it be an illegal subsidy? No more than any assistance given to e.g. French farmers. Since the war, when we needed to produce great amounts of our own food, horticulture has become a bit of a Cinderella industry in those terms. It's a question of economics and keeping people in work and there's a good deal of discussion in the trade press and elsewhere about interesting young people in it as a career. The Dutch have done a lot to help their horticultural industry, aiui, so many plants currently coming into UK come from there. Our local tiny flower shop is often seen with a huge Dutch artic outside, delivering cut flowers, for example. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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On 2013-10-17 14:09:33 +0000, Janet said:
In article , says... On 17/10/2013 13:44, sacha wrote: Some gcs or nurseries mark plants as raised in UK which have in fact been propagated abroad in vast quantities, brought into UK and then potted on. A disgraceful and misleading practice - and one that a lot of the large food providers also pull:( and then GC's who can't turn a profit from deceiving the customer, have the nerve to blame their business problems on TV presenters? Janet Who has done that? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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On 17/10/2013 17:32, sacha wrote:
Why should they receive any assistance - and from where? Wouldn't it be an illegal subsidy? No more than any assistance given to e.g. French farmers. Since the war, when we needed to produce great amounts of our own food, horticulture has become a bit of a Cinderella industry in those terms. It's a question of economics and keeping people in work and there's a good deal of discussion in the trade press and elsewhere about interesting young people in it as a career. The Dutch have done a lot to help their horticultural industry, aiui, so many plants currently coming into UK come from there. Our local tiny flower shop is often seen with a huge Dutch artic outside, delivering cut flowers, for example. Likewise here - there is often a big red Dutch artic blocking traffic on the way to work:( But maybe they are better at doing it/have better conditions, etc. (I know nothing about what non-horticultural industry support they might have had). Same argument might apply, e.g., to the car industry. [Thread drift alert] At least the horticultural industry isn't mainly owned by non-UK companies. How on earth have we got to the stage where something like power can be virtually controlled by an overseas compay. I thought it was always seen as an 'essential' that one wouldn't want to be in external control. But as you might have gathered, I'm not a fan of privatisation - the recent decision to enrich a few at the expense of the many is another outrageous step imo. -- regards Andy |
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Martin wrote: Some GCs make no secret that some of their plants are imported from The Netherlands. Large articulated Dutch trucks are hard to hide when making deliveries. If asked the staff are quite open about the source of their plants. Roger's Plants even recommended a Dutch bulb grower, which is local to us One can reasonably argue that Holland is more local to the south east than much of the UK is :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 10/16/2013 3:07 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
On 10/15/2013 10:16 PM, Phil Gurr wrote: Try living here, it takes DHL 3 DAYS to get a parcel to me from Inverness, but of course that is 41 miles! I had a pleasant surprise yesterday - TNT delivered an order from Staples, which I had placed the previous afternoon - and I'm even farther north than you are! Well, it was too good to last. Order placed yesterday, email this morning saying it had left Inverness and was out for delivery. Checked TNT website after dinner, as box had not yet arrived - instead of delivery info it said 'call'. I did - agent said the account was marked 'attempted delivery, recipient not at home' (or words to that effect). I was home ALL DAY. If I call first thing Monday, I _might_ be able to arrange delivery for Tuesday... |
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"S Viemeister" wrote in message ... On 10/16/2013 3:07 PM, S Viemeister wrote: On 10/15/2013 10:16 PM, Phil Gurr wrote: Try living here, it takes DHL 3 DAYS to get a parcel to me from Inverness, but of course that is 41 miles! I had a pleasant surprise yesterday - TNT delivered an order from Staples, which I had placed the previous afternoon - and I'm even farther north than you are! Well, it was too good to last. Order placed yesterday, email this morning saying it had left Inverness and was out for delivery. Checked TNT website after dinner, as box had not yet arrived - instead of delivery info it said 'call'. I did - agent said the account was marked 'attempted delivery, recipient not at home' (or words to that effect). I was home ALL DAY. If I call first thing Monday, I _might_ be able to arrange delivery for Tuesday... One of the major problems of living north of Inverness is that the overnight parcel artics arrive in the city at around 0800 and all the local carriers leave for their days deliveries at 0730. That is if your parcel actually comes to Inverness, I have had many parcels sent to Aberdeen because it's "quite close". I wonder how Londoners would feel if all their parcels were sent to Exeter - about the same distance from me as Aberdeen. Have also learnt never to include the county of Sutherland in the address as all these parcels end up in Sunderland! Phil Northern Highlands of Scotland |
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Phil Gurr wrote: One of the major problems of living north of Inverness is that the overnight parcel artics arrive in the city at around 0800 and all the local carriers leave for their days deliveries at 0730. That is if your parcel actually comes to Inverness, I have had many parcels sent to Aberdeen because it's "quite close". I wonder how Londoners would feel if all their parcels were sent to Exeter - about the same distance from me as Aberdeen. Have also learnt never to include the county of Sutherland in the address as all these parcels end up in Sunderland! That's almost there, so obviously you can just nip down and get it, can't you? :-) On the new, wonderful, nausea-inducing BBC weather map, it is indeed quite close. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 10/18/2013 8:17 PM, Phil Gurr wrote:
One of the major problems of living north of Inverness is that the overnight parcel artics arrive in the city at around 0800 and all the local carriers leave for their days deliveries at 0730. That is if your parcel actually comes to Inverness, I have had many parcels sent to Aberdeen because it's "quite close". I wonder how Londoners would feel if all their parcels were sent to Exeter - about the same distance from me as Aberdeen. Have also learnt never to include the county of Sutherland in the address as all these parcels end up in Sunderland! Yes, I've had stuff go via Sunderland, too! They seem to ignore the postcode. |
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On 18/10/2013 20:29, S Viemeister wrote:
On 10/18/2013 8:17 PM, Phil Gurr wrote: One of the major problems of living north of Inverness is that the overnight parcel artics arrive in the city at around 0800 and all the local carriers leave for their days deliveries at 0730. That is if your parcel actually comes to Inverness, I have had many parcels sent to Aberdeen because it's "quite close". I wonder how Londoners would feel if all their parcels were sent to Exeter - about the same distance from me as Aberdeen. Have also learnt never to include the county of Sutherland in the address as all these parcels end up in Sunderland! Yes, I've had stuff go via Sunderland, too! They seem to ignore the postcode. Reminds me of a delivery I had a few years ago, I phoned to find out where it had got to as it had been sent 5 days earlier, "Oh! We saw Nurseries on the address and thought that as it's half term there wouldn't be anyone there." Duh! |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:57:01 +0100, S Viemeister wrote: On 10/16/2013 3:07 PM, S Viemeister wrote: On 10/15/2013 10:16 PM, Phil Gurr wrote: Try living here, it takes DHL 3 DAYS to get a parcel to me from Inverness, but of course that is 41 miles! I had a pleasant surprise yesterday - TNT delivered an order from Staples, which I had placed the previous afternoon - and I'm even farther north than you are! Well, it was too good to last. Order placed yesterday, email this morning saying it had left Inverness and was out for delivery. Checked TNT website after dinner, as box had not yet arrived - instead of delivery info it said 'call'. I did - agent said the account was marked 'attempted delivery, recipient not at home' (or words to that effect). I was home ALL DAY. We've had this problem frequently. The delivery men are paid for each delivery or attempted delivery. If I call first thing Monday, I _might_ be able to arrange delivery for Tuesday... -- Martin in Zuid Holland Which is why putting leaving instruction on a parcel is such a good idea, as that way when they try this they have to pay up if they don't leave it the first time. I know sometimes there is nowhere to leave stuff safely but if it can be, it stops them saying they have "Carded" you when in fact they have been nowhere near and were just trying to save time, and don't think I am having a go at the drivers, sometimes when I see what they are expected to do in the time I am amazed how well they cope. -- Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella and Lapageria rosea cvs http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk |
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On 18/10/13 22:18, Martin wrote:
The delivery men are paid for each delivery or attempted delivery. My variant of this problem is that a similarly named road (that's only been there for 80m years) isn't on many satnavs. (Yes I have submitted multiple error reports). The consequence is that I often get deliveries for the other address. The incidence has been significantly reduced (but not eliminated) by my suggesting that the other house adds an extra field to their address stating "opposite the supermarket". The worst mis-delivery was roof height scaffolding; the scaffolding company was apologetic but not amused! |
OT - sort of
On 19/10/2013 09:14, Martin wrote:
In the days when there were still post offices here, we had a note pushed through the door saying that it was the third attempt to deliver and that the packet would be kept at the local post office for so many days before being returned to sender. When my wife phoned the post office to complain that we had been in when the note was pushed through the door and that it was the first note we had seen, a woman from the post office turned up in the evening in her own time to give us the two missing notes, but not the packet. Since privatisation of the mail here things have got a lot worse. In just a week? Or do you mean the random parcels company that is being used this time by your supplier. Doh! Forgotted you is Dutchish. TNT are delaying and losing folks post here in populous areas of Blighty now. They don't have sorting frames with every delivery point on them and if they can't get in to a block of flats or there is too much of it the post is sent to Royal Mail to deliver. -- Phil Cook |
OT - sort of
On 19/10/2013 22:01, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 14:59:42 +0100, Phil Cook wrote: On 19/10/2013 09:14, Martin wrote: In the days when there were still post offices here, we had a note pushed through the door saying that it was the third attempt to deliver and that the packet would be kept at the local post office for so many days before being returned to sender. When my wife phoned the post office to complain that we had been in when the note was pushed through the door and that it was the first note we had seen, a woman from the post office turned up in the evening in her own time to give us the two missing notes, but not the packet. Since privatisation of the mail here things have got a lot worse. In just a week? Or do you mean the random parcels company that is being used this time by your supplier. Doh! Forgotted you is Dutchish. I am not a bit Dutchish. TNT are delaying and losing folks post here in populous areas of Blighty now. They don't have sorting frames with every delivery point on them and if they can't get in to a block of flats or there is too much of it the post is sent to Royal Mail to deliver. TNT is part of the privatised remains of what was once Royal Mail Netherlands. It is the successful part that still makes a profit. When it comes to delivery "TNT isn't Dynamite" |
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