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This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of
some use! December 2013 The first month of the meteorological 2013/14 winter is likely to see a very cold and snowy start to winter. This period is also likely to experience a number of multiple and major widespread snow events across the country. The northern half of the country is likely to experience a run of well-below average temperatures for the vast majority of the whole month and multiple major snow events, which will also include some potentially dangerous blizzard conditions at times, in particular, in parts of north-east England. Parts of southern England, Wales, and the Midlands are also likely to experience a number of major snow events, that will consist of some crippling falls of snow for these parts throughout December, especially in parts of southern England and Wales. It is highly likely that there will be major disruption to the public transport network across much of the country at times and school closures throughout the early part of the December period too. December Temperatures - Below the seasonal average for most parts of the country and in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET). Temperatures are also likely to exceed double negative figures during the evenings at times, and even more so throughout the Christmas period and into the early part of 2014. It is quite plausible that temperatures may surpass -20C in parts of the UK during the evenings, with temperatures also struggling to get above freezing during the daytime at times too, but especially more so towards the start and end of the this forecasting period. December Major Snowfall - The major snow events are likely to lead to some heavy falls of snow across many parts of the country, but especially more so in the southern half of the country. Coupled with the below-average temperatures, this is likely to lead to lying snow on the ground for some lengthy periods of time in December. The risk of snowfall will remain with much of the country throughout the whole month, but especially more so throughout the period of the 23rd to the 31st December (Especially in northern, eastern and southern parts). A full and more detailed snow risk forecast will be issued to purchasers of this forecast later in the year (normally £10) January 2014 The second month of the meteorological 2013/14 winter is likely to be exceptionally cold and very snowy. This period is also likely to experience a number of multiple and major widespread snow events across the country, and a scenario similar to December 2010 or worse is plausible. The vast majority of the whole country is likely to experience a run of well-below average temperatures for the whole of the month and multiple major snow events, which will also include some potentially dangerous blizzard conditions at times, in particular, in parts of southern England. Parts of northern England, eastern England, Wales, western England, the Midlands, and Northern Ireland are also likely to experience a number of major snow events, that will consist of some crippling falls of snow for these parts throughout January. It is highly likely that there will be major disruption on a prolific scale to the public transport network across much of the country at times and school closures throughout much of the January period too. January Temperatures - Way below the seasonal average for much of the country and in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET). Temperatures are also likely to exceed double negative figures quite consistently during the evenings, especially in parts of Scotland and the north. There may even be the possibility of temperature records being broken in places, especially in parts of Scotland and Ireland, towards the start of this forecasting period. It is quite plausible that temperatures may surpass -28C in parts of the UK during the evenings, with temperatures also struggling to get above freezing across the country during the daytime too. There is also a good probability for the development of ice floes, which will be visible from land in various parts of the country too. January Major Snowfall - The major snow events are likely to lead to some very heavy falls of snow across most parts of the country, but especially more so in the southern half of the country. Coupled with the below-average temperatures, this is likely to lead to lying snow on the ground for the vast majority of January. Snow drifts of several feet are also a distinct possibility for this part of the forecasting period. The risk of snowfall will remain with large parts of the country throughout the whole month, but especially more so throughout the period of the 1st to the 15th January. A full and more detailed snow risk forecast will be issued to purchasers of this forecast later in the year (normally £10) February 2014 The final month of the meteorological 2013/14 winter is likely to continue with the cold and snowy theme. This period is also likely to experience a number of multiple and major widespread snow events across the country. Many parts of the country are likely to experience a run of below average temperatures throughout the month and multiple major snow events, especially in parts of northern and southern England. It is likely that there will be disruption to the public transport network across these parts at times and school closures throughout the February period too. However, a number of brief periods of moderation can't be ruled for this part of the forecasting period (normal winter conditions), especially in the latter part of this forecasting period. February Temperatures - Below the seasonal average for much of the country and in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET), especially to the north of the country. Temperatures may also exceed double negative figures during the evenings at times, especially in parts of Scotland and the north. It is quite plausible that temperatures may surpass -18C in parts of the UK during the evenings, with temperatures also struggling to get above freezing during the daytime at times too, but not consistently due to a number of brief periods of moderation for this part of the forecasting period. February Snowfall - The major snow events are likely to lead to some significant falls of snow across parts of the country, in particular, in parts of northern and southern England. The risk of major snowfall is most likely throughout the period of the 15th to the 25th February in these parts. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 07/11/13 17:05, Ophelia wrote:
This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! .... Nobody can accurately forecast 3 months ahead. It's hard enough to forecast 1 week ahead! The UK Met Office is sensible enough not to try. Hugh -- Hugh Newbury www.evershot-weather.org |
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On 07/11/2013 17:40, Hugh Newbury wrote:
Nobody can accurately forecast 3 months ahead. It's hard enough to forecast 1 week ahead! The UK Met Office is sensible enough not to try. Hugh Hear, hear Hugh... ridiculous! -- Wendy Tinley SE Sheffield 4 miles west of junction 30 M1 |
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Hugh Newbury wrote:
Nobody can accurately forecast 3 months ahead. It's hard enough to forecast 1 week ahead! A card-carrying meteorologist once told me that beyond 3 days, my guess was as good as his. We here in the U.S. have the "Old Farmer's Almanack," which forecasts by the Nostradamus method. -- Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G |
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On 07/11/2013 18:11, Wendy Tinley wrote:
On 07/11/2013 17:40, Hugh Newbury wrote: Nobody can accurately forecast 3 months ahead. It's hard enough to forecast 1 week ahead! The UK Met Office is sensible enough not to try. Hugh Hear, hear Hugh... ridiculous! At present they seem to be having problem forecasting for us here in the Swansea area 12 hours ahead. |
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"Hugh Newbury" wrote in message ... On 07/11/13 17:05, Ophelia wrote: This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! ... Nobody can accurately forecast 3 months ahead. It's hard enough to forecast 1 week ahead! The UK Met Office is sensible enough not to try. I am not arguing:) I guess we will see:) He pays for it you know! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 07/11/2013 19:59, Roger Tonkin wrote:
In article , says... On 07/11/2013 18:11, Wendy Tinley wrote: On 07/11/2013 17:40, Hugh Newbury wrote: Nobody can accurately forecast 3 months ahead. It's hard enough to forecast 1 week ahead! The UK Met Office is sensible enough not to try. Hugh Hear, hear Hugh... ridiculous! At present they seem to be having problem forecasting for us here in the Swansea area 12 hours ahead. And you are in a populous area David. Try finding an accurate forecast for mid-Wales any where. Met office are strange, we have 3 forecast areas within 5 miles of us. then going East nothing for around 30 miles |
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On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:05:11 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! snip Also posted on the Daily Mail! http://boards.dailymail.co.uk/news-b...162-uk-europe- autumn-winter-2013-2014-weather-discussion-25.html So s/he could have got it for free. I had a quick Google for ice floes visible from the UK which turned this up. No other immediate hits, so perhaps this is a voice crying in the wilderness. I share the general scepticism about the accuracy of a forecast for next February. I hope there is a money back guarantee. Cheers Dave R |
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"David.WE.Roberts" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:05:11 +0000, Ophelia wrote: This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! snip Also posted on the Daily Mail! http://boards.dailymail.co.uk/news-b...162-uk-europe- autumn-winter-2013-2014-weather-discussion-25.html So s/he could have got it for free. Blimey, well I won't be the one to tell him:( -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 07/11/2013 17:05, Ophelia wrote:
This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! December 2013 The first month of the meteorological 2013/14 winter is likely to see a very cold and snowy start to winter. This period is also likely to experience a number of multiple and major widespread snow events across the country. The northern half of the country is likely to experience a run of well-below average temperatures for the vast majority of the whole month and multiple major snow events, which will also include some potentially dangerous blizzard conditions at times, in particular, in parts of north-east England. Parts of southern England, Wales, and the Midlands are also likely to experience a number of major snow events, that will consist of some crippling falls of snow for these parts throughout December, especially in parts of southern England and Wales. It is highly likely that there will be major disruption to the public transport network across much of the country at times and school closures throughout the early part of the December period too. December Temperatures - Below the seasonal average for most parts of the country and in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET). Temperatures are also likely to exceed double negative figures during the evenings at times, and even more so throughout the Christmas period and into the early part of 2014. It is quite plausible that temperatures may surpass -20C in parts of the UK during the evenings, with temperatures also struggling to get above freezing during the daytime at times too, but especially more so towards the start and end of the this forecasting period. December Major Snowfall - The major snow events are likely to lead to some heavy falls of snow across many parts of the country, but especially more so in the southern half of the country. Coupled with the below-average temperatures, this is likely to lead to lying snow on the ground for some lengthy periods of time in December. The risk of snowfall will remain with much of the country throughout the whole month, but especially more so throughout the period of the 23rd to the 31st December (Especially in northern, eastern and southern parts). A full and more detailed snow risk forecast will be issued to purchasers of this forecast later in the year (normally £10) January 2014 The second month of the meteorological 2013/14 winter is likely to be exceptionally cold and very snowy. This period is also likely to experience a number of multiple and major widespread snow events across the country, and a scenario similar to December 2010 or worse is plausible. The vast majority of the whole country is likely to experience a run of well-below average temperatures for the whole of the month and multiple major snow events, which will also include some potentially dangerous blizzard conditions at times, in particular, in parts of southern England. Parts of northern England, eastern England, Wales, western England, the Midlands, and Northern Ireland are also likely to experience a number of major snow events, that will consist of some crippling falls of snow for these parts throughout January. It is highly likely that there will be major disruption on a prolific scale to the public transport network across much of the country at times and school closures throughout much of the January period too. January Temperatures - Way below the seasonal average for much of the country and in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET). Temperatures are also likely to exceed double negative figures quite consistently during the evenings, especially in parts of Scotland and the north. There may even be the possibility of temperature records being broken in places, especially in parts of Scotland and Ireland, towards the start of this forecasting period. It is quite plausible that temperatures may surpass -28C in parts of the UK during the evenings, with temperatures also struggling to get above freezing across the country during the daytime too. There is also a good probability for the development of ice floes, which will be visible from land in various parts of the country too. January Major Snowfall - The major snow events are likely to lead to some very heavy falls of snow across most parts of the country, but especially more so in the southern half of the country. Coupled with the below-average temperatures, this is likely to lead to lying snow on the ground for the vast majority of January. Snow drifts of several feet are also a distinct possibility for this part of the forecasting period. The risk of snowfall will remain with large parts of the country throughout the whole month, but especially more so throughout the period of the 1st to the 15th January. A full and more detailed snow risk forecast will be issued to purchasers of this forecast later in the year (normally £10) February 2014 The final month of the meteorological 2013/14 winter is likely to continue with the cold and snowy theme. This period is also likely to experience a number of multiple and major widespread snow events across the country. Many parts of the country are likely to experience a run of below average temperatures throughout the month and multiple major snow events, especially in parts of northern and southern England. It is likely that there will be disruption to the public transport network across these parts at times and school closures throughout the February period too. However, a number of brief periods of moderation can't be ruled for this part of the forecasting period (normal winter conditions), especially in the latter part of this forecasting period. February Temperatures - Below the seasonal average for much of the country and in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET), especially to the north of the country. Temperatures may also exceed double negative figures during the evenings at times, especially in parts of Scotland and the north. It is quite plausible that temperatures may surpass -18C in parts of the UK during the evenings, with temperatures also struggling to get above freezing during the daytime at times too, but not consistently due to a number of brief periods of moderation for this part of the forecasting period. February Snowfall - The major snow events are likely to lead to some significant falls of snow across parts of the country, in particular, in parts of northern and southern England. The risk of major snowfall is most likely throughout the period of the 15th to the 25th February in these parts. http://www.diaryofanadi.co.uk/?p=10402 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudso...-coldest-winte -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message ... On 07/11/2013 17:05, Ophelia wrote: This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be http://www.diaryofanadi.co.uk/?p=10402 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudso...-coldest-winte Thank you Stewart Robert Hinsley but it has already been discussed and found wanting ... -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:05:11 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! snip apocalypse It's being so cheerful as keeps 'em going. |
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On 08/11/2013 09:59, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 21:50:52 +0000, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: snip http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudso...-coldest-winte Paul Hudson, weather presenter and climate correspondent for BBC Look North in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, confrontations with the local news reader are not to be missed. We live in this local area and yes... hilarious at times! -- Wendy Tinley SE Sheffield 4 miles west of junction 30 M1 |
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"Derek Turner" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:05:11 +0000, Ophelia wrote: This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! snip apocalypse It's being so cheerful as keeps 'em going. lol long time since I've heard that:) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 10:21:16 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
"Derek Turner" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:05:11 +0000, Ophelia wrote: This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! snip apocalypse It's being so cheerful as keeps 'em going. lol long time since I've heard that:) I am nearly sixty and am still too young to have heard it directly. Most of my parent's generation, however, used it, and other ITMA catchphrases with great regularity. Twenty million listeners! The other one still often heard is "after you Claude". I suspect that like phrases from the Authorised Version and BCP there are many who use them without knowing where they come from. What will my generation's legacy be, I wonder? The parrot sketch and fork-handles? There! back on topic! |
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Copied from another group: ~~~ The Farmers Almanac this year predicts a hard winter. I have my own indicators - a heavy crop of crab apples, of winter pears and a heavy but very late crop of grapes on my vine, huge crop of conkers and lots of beech mast (earlier in the year). The darned squirrels have nearly cultivated my garden with their frenetic burying of foodstuffs. That's good enough for me – If the squirrels say it’s going to be ‘ard it’s going to be ‘ard!. ~~~ I guess all we can do is wait and see:) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Derek Turner" wrote in message ... On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 10:21:16 +0000, Ophelia wrote: "Derek Turner" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:05:11 +0000, Ophelia wrote: This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! snip apocalypse It's being so cheerful as keeps 'em going. lol long time since I've heard that:) I am nearly sixty and am still too young to have heard it directly. Maybe more to do with the area you grew up:) I've never heard it up here! Most of my parent's generation, however, used it, and other ITMA catchphrases with great regularity. Twenty million listeners! The other one still often heard is "after you Claude". I suspect that like phrases from the Authorised Version and BCP there are many who use them without knowing where they come from. What will my generation's legacy be, I wonder? The parrot sketch and fork-handles? There! back on topic! lol nicely done:)) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 2013-11-08 11:19:45 +0000, Ophelia said:
Copied from another group: ~~~ The Farmers Almanac this year predicts a hard winter. I have my own indicators - a heavy crop of crab apples, of winter pears and a heavy but very late crop of grapes on my vine, huge crop of conkers and lots of beech mast (earlier in the year). Isn't that just a sign that we had a decent summer, and most of the flowers set? Most of these amateur long range forecasts are based on predicting headline events, such as heavy snow, widespread ice in the winter; and violent thunderstorms, very hot days in the summer. They concentrate on these because the general public remember them and will think to themselves "oh Mr Bloggitt forecast heavy snow way back in October, he must be a genius" forgetting that the actual prediction for the heavy snow was so wishywashy and undefined that it could occur at any time between November and March (as indeed heavy snow can occur at any time during that period, for a few days, even in a winter that is milder than average overall). The winter (1 Dec to Feb 28/9 officially) of 2010/11 was a good example. We had large quantities of snow well before Christmas, and some very icy weather around the festive period, but after that Jan and Feb 2011 were quite mild, and yet the media were still waffling about Siberian winters becoming more commonplace (and other such nonsense) well into one of the mildest Februarys for many years. The darned squirrels have nearly cultivated my garden with their frenetic burying of foodstuffs. That's good enough for me – If the squirrels say it’s going to be ‘ard it’s going to be ‘ard!. ~~~ I guess all we can do is wait and see:) |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 10:21:16 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: "Derek Turner" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:05:11 +0000, Ophelia wrote: This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! snip apocalypse It's being so cheerful as keeps 'em going. lol long time since I've heard that:) ITMA Not that far back but it was certainly in use when I was growing up:) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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Is there a met office mountain area forecast that covers your area? Is it any good? I find the met office Yorkshire Dales mountain area forecast is pretty good. My only irritation is that it doesn't switch from "today" to "tomorrow" until about sunset, which means you often have to leave decisions quite late. |
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On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 11:19:45 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
Copied from another group: ~~~ The Farmers Almanac this year predicts a hard winter. I have my own indicators - a heavy crop of crab apples, of winter pears and a heavy but very late crop of grapes on my vine, huge crop of conkers and lots of beech mast (earlier in the year). The darned squirrels have nearly cultivated my garden with their frenetic burying of foodstuffs. That's good enough for me – If the squirrels say it’s going to be ‘ard it’s going to be ‘ard!. ~~~ I guess all we can do is wait and see:) According to Autum Watch a good crop this year reflects a good summer/ autumn last year when the trees and plants built up good reserves which could be put into flowering this year resulting in the potential for a good crop this year. Given a good fruit set followed by a good summer, you get a good crop this autumn. With an abundance of food this year we probably have a lower infant mortality rate in squirrels. Then again, we might have psychic conker trees. Cheers Dave R |
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"David.WE.Roberts" wrote in message ... On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 11:19:45 +0000, Ophelia wrote: Copied from another group: ~~~ The Farmers Almanac this year predicts a hard winter. I have my own indicators - a heavy crop of crab apples, of winter pears and a heavy but very late crop of grapes on my vine, huge crop of conkers and lots of beech mast (earlier in the year). The darned squirrels have nearly cultivated my garden with their frenetic burying of foodstuffs. That's good enough for me – If the squirrels say it’s going to be ‘ard it’s going to be ‘ard!. ~~~ I guess all we can do is wait and see:) According to Autum Watch a good crop this year reflects a good summer/ autumn last year when the trees and plants built up good reserves which could be put into flowering this year resulting in the potential for a good crop this year. Given a good fruit set followed by a good summer, you get a good crop this autumn. With an abundance of food this year we probably have a lower infant mortality rate in squirrels. Then again, we might have psychic conker trees. As I said, all we can do is wait and see. I may be mistaken but it would appear that I had better go back to lurking since the things I have passed on are now being taken as my personal opinion. Btw with regard to your questions in ULM (about what Sacha and I have posted) it could be said I gave them free advertising and the "but also was accompanied by a lot of strong critical comment." Was not made by me! I take it you will be hitting us with it at your leisure? -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 11:59:31 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: "Martin" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 10:21:16 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: "Derek Turner" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:05:11 +0000, Ophelia wrote: This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! snip apocalypse Mona Lot lol long time since I've heard that:) ITMA Not that far back but it was certainly in use when I was growing up:) I remember it from ITMA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_That_Man_Again "I'm going down now sir" - Another diver catchphrase, which became widely used in descending lifts during the era of ITMA popularity.[5] "This is Funf speaking" - German spy, spoken by Jack Train.[4] This became a popular telephone catchphrase.[7] "I don't mind if I do" - Colonel Humphrey Chinstrap's catchphrase, spoken by Jack Train, turning any remark into an offer of a drink.[4] The origin of this catchphrase precedes ITMA, but was nevertheless popularised by ITMA.[8] "Can I do you now, Sir?" - Spoken by Dorothy Summers as Mrs Mopp the office char.[4][9] "I go, I come back" - Middle Eastern vendor, Ali Oop. Spoken by Jack Train.[4][10] "It's being so cheerful as keeps me going" - Mona Lott, a depressed laundrywoman played by Joan Harben.[11] "Good morning, nice day" - commercial traveller about to offer some sales line.[12][13] "After you, Claude - no, After you Cecil" - Moving men spoken by Jack Train and Horace Percival[4][14] This phrase became used by RAF pilots as they queued for attack.[15] "I'll have to ask me Dad" - Mark Time (an elderly ditherer). This "was a political phrase introduced into ITMA when post-war reconstruction was looming.[16] It was spoken by a Jack Train character, Mark Time, who responded to all questions with this phrase.[4] "But I'm all right now" - Hattie Jacques' character Sophie Tuckshop, after describing a long list of food she had eaten.[17] "TTFN (Ta ta for now)" and "Can I Do You Now" - Spoken by Dorothy Summers' character, Mrs Mopp.[4][18] I remember hearing stuff like that but not directly from the programme. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Malcolm" wrote in message ... In article , Ophelia writes "Martin" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 10:21:16 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: "Derek Turner" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:05:11 +0000, Ophelia wrote: This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! snip apocalypse It's being so cheerful as keeps 'em going. lol long time since I've heard that:) ITMA Not that far back but it was certainly in use when I was growing up:) Dear Ophelia, you are clearly not old enough to remember ITMA! The phrase is *definitely* that far back, and *definitely* ITMA. It was a catchphrase from Mona Lott, a dressed laundry woman. Martin has just posted some more from ITMA. LOL I reckon you would be wrong g I suspect it just wasn't something my parents listened to:) I've heard people use that when I was a child and obviously that is where they got it from ;p We didn't listen to much we were always quiet and reading books. The only thing we listened to regularly was The Good Show! My Dad loved it:) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Malcolm" wrote in message ... In article , Ophelia writes "Martin" wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 10:21:16 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: "Derek Turner" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:05:11 +0000, Ophelia wrote: This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! snip apocalypse It's being so cheerful as keeps 'em going. lol long time since I've heard that:) ITMA Not that far back but it was certainly in use when I was growing up:) Dear Ophelia, you are clearly not old enough to remember ITMA! The phrase is *definitely* that far back, and *definitely* ITMA. It was a catchphrase from Mona Lott, a dressed laundry woman. Martin has just posted some more from ITMA. LOL I reckon you would be wrong g I suspect it just wasn't something my parents listened to:) I've heard people use that when I was a child and obviously that is where they got it from ;p We didn't listen to much we were always quiet and reading books. The only thing we listened to regularly was The Good Show! My Dad loved it:) Oops that would be the Goons! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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Ophelia wrote: "Malcolm" wrote in message ... It's being so cheerful as keeps 'em going. lol long time since I've heard that:) ITMA Not that far back but it was certainly in use when I was growing up:) Dear Ophelia, you are clearly not old enough to remember ITMA! The phrase is *definitely* that far back, and *definitely* ITMA. It was a catchphrase from Mona Lott, a dressed laundry woman. Martin has just posted some more from ITMA. LOL I reckon you would be wrong g I suspect it just wasn't something my parents listened to:) I've heard people use that when I was a child and obviously that is where they got it from ;p Actually, I think that it is older than ITMA, but its widespread popularity dates from ITMA. That is certainly true for some of the other phrases, such as "I don't mind if I do" and "Can I do you now, Sir?" I managed to get one change into the OED where they had fallen into the trap of assigning a phrase to the author who popularised it and not the originator. "To damn with faint praise" is actually Wycherley, and Pope picked it up. But I suspect that the vast majority of attributions are to the populariser and not the actual originator, based on what I have seen happen in the past half century. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Malcolm" wrote in message ... We didn't listen to much we were always quiet and reading books. The only thing we listened to regularly was The Good Show! My Dad loved it:) Oops that would be the Goons! I've just deleted the post I was writing to point that out :-) g beat you to it .. Phew:)) Would you be a Goonie fan too? I have a friend who has some old 75s records with the programmes on. We have a hoot when we visit:) Min -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
Bad winter coming - Exacta weather
On 2013-11-08 13:17:00 +0000, Ophelia said:
"David.WE.Roberts" wrote in message ... On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 11:19:45 +0000, Ophelia wrote: Copied from another group: ~~~ The Farmers Almanac this year predicts a hard winter. I have my own indicators - a heavy crop of crab apples, of winter pears and a heavy but very late crop of grapes on my vine, huge crop of conkers and lots of beech mast (earlier in the year). The darned squirrels have nearly cultivated my garden with their frenetic burying of foodstuffs. That's good enough for me – If the squirrels say it’s going to be ‘ard it’s going to be ‘ard!. ~~~ I guess all we can do is wait and see:) According to Autum Watch a good crop this year reflects a good summer/ autumn last year when the trees and plants built up good reserves which could be put into flowering this year resulting in the potential for a good crop this year. Given a good fruit set followed by a good summer, you get a good crop this autumn. With an abundance of food this year we probably have a lower infant mortality rate in squirrels. Then again, we might have psychic conker trees. As I said, all we can do is wait and see. I may be mistaken but it would appear that I had better go back to lurking since the things I have passed on are now being taken as my personal opinion. Btw with regard to your questions in ULM (about what Sacha and I have posted) it could be said I gave them free advertising and the "but also was accompanied by a lot of strong critical comment." Was not made by me! I take it you will be hitting us with it at your leisure? Don't be discouraged, Ophelia! Please keep going. Unfortunately, one of the problems with this medium is that you can't see the person you're talking to and there are sometimes gaps between a post and an answer to it. Other comments come in and unintentionally muddy the waters and the next thing you know is that you're an ardent believer in something you've merely raised as a topic of interest! As we have seen all too well, all too recently! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
Bad winter coming - Exacta weather
"sacha" wrote in message ... On 2013-11-08 13:17:00 +0000, Ophelia said: "David.WE.Roberts" wrote in message ... On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 11:19:45 +0000, Ophelia wrote: Copied from another group: ~~~ The Farmers Almanac this year predicts a hard winter. I have my own indicators - a heavy crop of crab apples, of winter pears and a heavy but very late crop of grapes on my vine, huge crop of conkers and lots of beech mast (earlier in the year). The darned squirrels have nearly cultivated my garden with their frenetic burying of foodstuffs. That's good enough for me – If the squirrels say it’s going to be ‘ard it’s going to be ‘ard!. ~~~ I guess all we can do is wait and see:) According to Autum Watch a good crop this year reflects a good summer/ autumn last year when the trees and plants built up good reserves which could be put into flowering this year resulting in the potential for a good crop this year. Given a good fruit set followed by a good summer, you get a good crop this autumn. With an abundance of food this year we probably have a lower infant mortality rate in squirrels. Then again, we might have psychic conker trees. As I said, all we can do is wait and see. I may be mistaken but it would appear that I had better go back to lurking since the things I have passed on are now being taken as my personal opinion. Btw with regard to your questions in ULM (about what Sacha and I have posted) it could be said I gave them free advertising and the "but also was accompanied by a lot of strong critical comment." Was not made by me! I take it you will be hitting us with it at your leisure? Don't be discouraged, Ophelia! Please keep going. Unfortunately, one of the problems with this medium is that you can't see the person you're talking to and there are sometimes gaps between a post and an answer to it. Other comments come in and unintentionally muddy the waters and the next thing you know is that you're an ardent believer in something you've merely raised as a topic of interest! As we have seen all too well, all too recently! lol, true enough:) Ok, thanks:) Incidentally, a note to David.WE.Roberts, if you read any of Martin's link you will have seen see that Exacta is quoted by a journalist there, so I don't think they would be gunning for me especially. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
Bad winter coming - Exacta weather
Don't be discouraged, Ophelia! Please keep going. Unfortunately, one of the problems with this medium is that you can't see the person you're talking to This is one of the main problems with the Net in general and newsgroups in particular. I was involved in the 1990's with the development of videoconferencing and the transmission of extra-mural distance learning courses. Often acute antagonism developed between students and tutors - even if they could see each other via the video network. This was cured quite simply by moving the tutors around the centres so that they could meet the students personally. The cure was permanent! Phil Northern Highlands of Scotland |
Bad winter coming - Exacta weather
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Malcolm wrote: Actually, I think that it is older than ITMA, but its widespread popularity dates from ITMA. That is certainly true for some of the other phrases, such as "I don't mind if I do" and "Can I do you now, Sir?" I managed to get one change into the OED where they had fallen into the trap of assigning a phrase to the author who popularised it and not the originator. "To damn with faint praise" is actually Wycherley, and Pope picked it up. But I suspect that the vast majority of attributions are to the populariser and not the actual originator, based on what I have seen happen in the past half century. I'm sure you're right, and, while it might matter to the OED - and well done on the correction, that's a nice one - the rest of us are happy to attribute the popularisers! Thanks. In general, I agree that it makes no difference except to historians, but it does sometimes matter when the populariser attempts to copyright or trademark it :-( Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Bad winter coming - Exacta weather
"Ophelia" wrote in message ... This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of some use! December 2013 The first month of the meteorological 2013/14 winter is likely to see a very cold and snowy start to winter. This period is also likely to experience a number of multiple and major widespread snow events across the country. The northern half of the country is likely to experience a run of well-below average temperatures for the vast majority of the whole month and multiple major snow events, which will also include some potentially dangerous blizzard conditions at times, in particular, in parts of north-east England. Parts of southern England, Wales, and the Midlands are also likely to experience a number of major snow events, that will consist of some crippling falls of snow for these parts throughout December, especially in parts of southern England and Wales. It is highly likely that there will be major disruption to the public transport network across much of the country at times and school closures throughout the early part of the December period too. December Temperatures - Below the seasonal average for most parts of the country and in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET). Temperatures are also likely to exceed double negative figures during the evenings at times, and even more so throughout the Christmas period and into the early part of 2014. It is quite plausible that temperatures may surpass -20C in parts of the UK during the evenings, with temperatures also struggling to get above freezing during the daytime at times too, but especially more so towards the start and end of the this forecasting period. December Major Snowfall - The major snow events are likely to lead to some heavy falls of snow across many parts of the country, but especially more so in the southern half of the country. Coupled with the below-average temperatures, this is likely to lead to lying snow on the ground for some lengthy periods of time in December. The risk of snowfall will remain with much of the country throughout the whole month, but especially more so throughout the period of the 23rd to the 31st December (Especially in northern, eastern and southern parts). A full and more detailed snow risk forecast will be issued to purchasers of this forecast later in the year (normally £10) January 2014 The second month of the meteorological 2013/14 winter is likely to be exceptionally cold and very snowy. This period is also likely to experience a number of multiple and major widespread snow events across the country, and a scenario similar to December 2010 or worse is plausible. The vast majority of the whole country is likely to experience a run of well-below average temperatures for the whole of the month and multiple major snow events, which will also include some potentially dangerous blizzard conditions at times, in particular, in parts of southern England. Parts of northern England, eastern England, Wales, western England, the Midlands, and Northern Ireland are also likely to experience a number of major snow events, that will consist of some crippling falls of snow for these parts throughout January. It is highly likely that there will be major disruption on a prolific scale to the public transport network across much of the country at times and school closures throughout much of the January period too. January Temperatures - Way below the seasonal average for much of the country and in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET). Temperatures are also likely to exceed double negative figures quite consistently during the evenings, especially in parts of Scotland and the north. There may even be the possibility of temperature records being broken in places, especially in parts of Scotland and Ireland, towards the start of this forecasting period. It is quite plausible that temperatures may surpass -28C in parts of the UK during the evenings, with temperatures also struggling to get above freezing across the country during the daytime too. There is also a good probability for the development of ice floes, which will be visible from land in various parts of the country too. January Major Snowfall - The major snow events are likely to lead to some very heavy falls of snow across most parts of the country, but especially more so in the southern half of the country. Coupled with the below-average temperatures, this is likely to lead to lying snow on the ground for the vast majority of January. Snow drifts of several feet are also a distinct possibility for this part of the forecasting period. The risk of snowfall will remain with large parts of the country throughout the whole month, but especially more so throughout the period of the 1st to the 15th January. A full and more detailed snow risk forecast will be issued to purchasers of this forecast later in the year (normally £10) February 2014 The final month of the meteorological 2013/14 winter is likely to continue with the cold and snowy theme. This period is also likely to experience a number of multiple and major widespread snow events across the country. Many parts of the country are likely to experience a run of below average temperatures throughout the month and multiple major snow events, especially in parts of northern and southern England. It is likely that there will be disruption to the public transport network across these parts at times and school closures throughout the February period too. However, a number of brief periods of moderation can't be ruled for this part of the forecasting period (normal winter conditions), especially in the latter part of this forecasting period. February Temperatures - Below the seasonal average for much of the country and in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET), especially to the north of the country. Temperatures may also exceed double negative figures during the evenings at times, especially in parts of Scotland and the north. It is quite plausible that temperatures may surpass -18C in parts of the UK during the evenings, with temperatures also struggling to get above freezing during the daytime at times too, but not consistently due to a number of brief periods of moderation for this part of the forecasting period. February Snowfall - The major snow events are likely to lead to some significant falls of snow across parts of the country, in particular, in parts of northern and southern England. The risk of major snowfall is most likely throughout the period of the 15th to the 25th February in these parts. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ Ah well !! I think I'll go back to bed ! Bill |
Bad winter coming - Exacta weather
"Bill Grey" wrote in message ... Ah well !! I think I'll go back to bed ! Bill If any of that comes to pass I will be doing the same:)) Either that or buy an electric onesie ;) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
Bad winter coming - Exacta weather
"Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: g beat you to it .. Phew:)) Would you be a Goonie fan too? I have a friend who has some old 75s records with the programmes on. We have a hoot when we visit:) Min Apparently, when the first pilot programme was being considered by the toffs at the top of the beeb, one of them mis-read the title and asked "what is this go on show?" I Didn't Know That:) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
Bad winter coming - Exacta weather
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: "Malcolm" wrote in message ... We didn't listen to much we were always quiet and reading books. The only thing we listened to regularly was The Good Show! My Dad loved it:) Oops that would be the Goons! I've just deleted the post I was writing to point that out :-) g beat you to it .. Phew:)) Would you be a Goonie fan too? I have a friend who has some old 75s records with the programmes on. slow playing 78s? errrr just testing ... -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
Bad winter coming - Exacta weather
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 09:35:26 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: "Martin" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: "Malcolm" wrote in message ... We didn't listen to much we were always quiet and reading books. The only thing we listened to regularly was The Good Show! My Dad loved it:) Oops that would be the Goons! I've just deleted the post I was writing to point that out :-) g beat you to it .. Phew:)) Would you be a Goonie fan too? I have a friend who has some old 75s records with the programmes on. slow playing 78s? errrr just testing ... teasing? Certainly not! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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