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Blue sky and hail
This weather is *weird*! We've just had a big downpour of hail,
there's a large patch of blue sky, some cloud and a large patch of black sky. Early this morning there was a thunderstorm and a power cut. I am so sorry for those poor people who are flooded and can see no end to all this. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
Blue sky and hail
On 2014-01-07 11:33:51 +0000, Martin said:
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 10:59:58 +0000, Sacha wrote: This weather is *weird*! We've just had a big downpour of hail, there's a large patch of blue sky, some cloud and a large patch of black sky. Early this morning there was a thunderstorm and a power cut. I am so sorry for those poor people who are flooded and can see no end to all this. Even worse are the people who are flooded every year and politicians doing nothing about it except talking. I think they have to hand over money and autonomy to local authorities who will dredge, dig culverts or do whatever has to be done but with local knowledge. I don't think this sort of disaster aversion can be controlled from Whitehall. I don't actually know how it's managed now, other than by a lot of jaw action, as you say. But 'give us the tools and we'll do the job' does seem to be the only sensible management. But above all, it should be made illegal to build on, or close to, flood plains. Driving to Bridgwater last week we saw acres upon acre of lakes that should have been fields and we heard this morning that the train line is flooded again near Taunton, I think. So no trains into the further reaches of the peninsula! I cannot begin to imagine what it would be like to be on a train near Dawlish now anyway, if the trains from this side are running! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2014-01-07 15:20:47 +0000, Roger Tonkin said:
In article , says... I cannot begin to imagine what it would be like to be on a train near Dawlish now anyway, if the trains from this side are running! Heard on the lunchtime news about 500 odd people stuck in three trains in a snow bound USA for over 14 hours! How truly horrible. I wonder if they had any heat or food! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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On 07/01/2014 16:10, sacha wrote:
On 2014-01-07 15:20:47 +0000, Roger Tonkin said: In article , says... I cannot begin to imagine what it would be like to be on a train near Dawlish now anyway, if the trains from this side are running! Heard on the lunchtime news about 500 odd people stuck in three trains in a snow bound USA for over 14 hours! How truly horrible. I wonder if they had any heat or food! I'd be more worried about needing a toilet! -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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On 2014-01-07 16:12:56 +0000, Spider said:
On 07/01/2014 16:10, sacha wrote: On 2014-01-07 15:20:47 +0000, Roger Tonkin said: In article , says... I cannot begin to imagine what it would be like to be on a train near Dawlish now anyway, if the trains from this side are running! Heard on the lunchtime news about 500 odd people stuck in three trains in a snow bound USA for over 14 hours! How truly horrible. I wonder if they had any heat or food! I'd be more worried about needing a toilet! Well trains do have those but if they've been stationary for a long time…eugh! I suppose a tramp off into the snow drifts is the answer. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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"Roger Tonkin" wrote in message ... In article , says... I cannot begin to imagine what it would be like to be on a train near Dawlish now anyway, if the trains from this side are running! Heard on the lunchtime news about 500 odd people stuck in three trains in a snow bound USA for over 14 hours! -- Roger T 700 ft up in Mid-Wales It took us 14 hrs to get from Bristol to Edingburgh some years ago. The train was delayed ue to snow and freezing conditions. After a prescribed period of delay the Railway Co provided free buffet and tea etc. It was interesting walking back to our carriage carrying a cup of tea in each hand in a rocking carriage when the lights went out - total blackness! Bill |
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I've been very struck by the new Environment Agency flash flooding maps. Our town, like many, has areas of fields quite close to the centre which have never been built on (although they are now being snatched up by developers) - and the pattern of non-development matches very well the high risk areas for flash flooding. |
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"Bill Grey" wrote in message
... "Roger Tonkin" wrote in message ... In article , says... I cannot begin to imagine what it would be like to be on a train near Dawlish now anyway, if the trains from this side are running! Heard on the lunchtime news about 500 odd people stuck in three trains in a snow bound USA for over 14 hours! -- Roger T 700 ft up in Mid-Wales It took us 14 hrs to get from Bristol to Edingburgh some years ago. The train was delayed ue to snow and freezing conditions. After a prescribed period of delay the Railway Co provided free buffet and tea etc. It was interesting walking back to our carriage carrying a cup of tea in each hand in a rocking carriage when the lights went out - total blackness! Bill ======================================== During my National Service in the Royal Navy, I actually hitch hiked from Nottingham to Edinburgh quicker then the Railways could do it!! Loooooooooong story which is in print somewhere http://www.worldnavalships.com/forum...ad.php?t=15761 Mike --------------------------------------------------------------- www.friendsofshanklintheatre.co.uk www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com www.rneba.org.uk www.nsrafa.org |
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On 07/01/2014 12:22, Sacha wrote:
On 2014-01-07 11:33:51 +0000, Martin said: On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 10:59:58 +0000, Sacha wrote: This weather is *weird*! We've just had a big downpour of hail, there's a large patch of blue sky, some cloud and a large patch of black sky. Early this morning there was a thunderstorm and a power cut. I am so sorry for those poor people who are flooded and can see no end to all this. Even worse are the people who are flooded every year and politicians doing nothing about it except talking. I think they have to hand over money and autonomy to local authorities who will dredge, dig culverts or do whatever has to be done but with local knowledge. I don't think this sort of disaster aversion can be controlled from Whitehall. I don't actually know how it's managed now, other than by a lot of jaw action, as you say. But 'give us the tools and we'll do the job' does seem to be the only sensible management. But above all, it should be made illegal to build on, or close to, flood plains. Driving to Bridgwater last week we saw acres upon acre of lakes that should have been fields and we heard this morning that the train line is flooded again near Taunton, I think. So no trains into the further reaches of the peninsula! I cannot begin to imagine what it would be like to be on a train near Dawlish now anyway, if the trains from this side are running! I can't see giving the "Locals" the money to carry out flood prevention would be of any great advantage. It's these people who have given planning permission in the first place to build on flood plains. I remember seeing a house on one of the Property progs that was build by the river but on a raft of something like 4ft of polystyrene so when the ground flooded the house floated, held in place by strong posts at the corners. This is another idea along these lines. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...-welsh-2731149 |
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On 1/7/2014 1:28 PM, David Hill wrote:
I remember seeing a house on one of the Property progs that was build by the river but on a raft of something like 4ft of polystyrene so when the ground flooded the house floated, held in place by strong posts at the corners. This is another idea along these lines. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...-welsh-2731149 My grandparents' house in Edinburgh backs onto the Water of Leith - it (the house) has a raft-type foundation. |
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On 07/01/2014 19:42, S Viemeister wrote:
On 1/7/2014 1:28 PM, David Hill wrote: I remember seeing a house on one of the Property progs that was build by the river but on a raft of something like 4ft of polystyrene so when the ground flooded the house floated, held in place by strong posts at the corners. This is another idea along these lines. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...-welsh-2731149 My grandparents' house in Edinburgh backs onto the Water of Leith - it (the house) has a raft-type foundation. My memories of Leith are from My fathers ship being in dock there, and depending on which way the wind was blowing you had the smell from the distillery, from the sewage on the beach or a pile of old car tires that were always burning. That was in the 50's |
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In article , david@abacus-
nurseries.co.uk says... On 07/01/2014 19:42, S Viemeister wrote: My grandparents' house in Edinburgh backs onto the Water of Leith - it (the house) has a raft-type foundation. My memories of Leith are from My fathers ship being in dock there, It's highly unlikely your father's ship was docked in the Water of Leith. Janet |
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On 07/01/2014 21:16, Janet wrote:
In article , david@abacus- nurseries.co.uk says... On 07/01/2014 19:42, S Viemeister wrote: My grandparents' house in Edinburgh backs onto the Water of Leith - it (the house) has a raft-type foundation. My memories of Leith are from My fathers ship being in dock there, It's highly unlikely your father's ship was docked in the Water of Leith. Janet Most ships were docked in Leith Docks |
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On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 16:12:56 +0000, Spider wrote:
Heard on the lunchtime news about 500 odd people stuck in three trains in a snow bound USA for over 14 hours! How truly horrible. I wonder if they had any heat or food! I would like to think so considering how blooming cold bits of the US of A are. Cold that you really don't want to get involved with. I wonder if everyone would stay spread out down the train in their seats or would some one suggest all getting together in one or two coaches to keep each other mutually warm? The ones on the outside rotating with those on the inside every few hours. Pick coaches next to the engine if that is still running and disconnect the tail of the train so only those coaches that need to be heated/lit are. I'd be more worried about needing a toilet! Trains have loos but they might get a bit yuky after a while but when you gotta go, you gotta go ... -- Cheers Dave. |
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