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I'd like a short (about 1m long) wooden bench for my garden. I've seen
very cheap pine offerings and expensive naughty hardwoods. Will money buy me resistance to rote, mould, etc? Is there a really good "treatment" that will prevent rot? A lot of these seem to be for rough sawn timber only. Thanks! Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com |
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You really need a hardwood bench for good stability and durability. Avoid
tropical hardwoods if you can, http://www.coedcymru.mid-wales.net/ can point you to good British suppliers. Neil "Steve Harris" wrote in message ... I'd like a short (about 1m long) wooden bench for my garden. I've seen very cheap pine offerings and expensive naughty hardwoods. Will money buy me resistance to rote, mould, etc? Is there a really good "treatment" that will prevent rot? A lot of these seem to be for rough sawn timber only. Thanks! Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com |
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Three years ago we bought some teak furniture - table, chairs and a Lutyens
style bench from a market. The price was far less than those in garden centres or D-I-Y outfits at the time. I treated the wood with teak oil but in time that attracted soot, dirt and pollen and went dark. To get the colour back I have had to scrub and sand back to the original wood and am now trying Danish Oil as the preservative. I would agree with the previous posters that the hardwoods are a better bet, but whatever you buy will need thorough and regular treatment to keep it both protected and looking good. So, yes money will buy you a start but the rest is down to care and time in looking after what you have. My father bought some teak chairs made from the timbers of a ship - HMS Aresthusa I think - in a country house sale in 1950 - those chairs are still going strong ..... Nick Spalding ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harris" Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:37 AM Subject: Wooden Garden Furniture I'd like a short (about 1m long) wooden bench for my garden. I've seen very cheap pine offerings and expensive naughty hardwoods. Will money buy me resistance to rote, mould, etc? Is there a really good "treatment" that will prevent rot? A lot of these seem to be for rough sawn timber only. Thanks! Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com -- Nick Spalding "Steve Harris" wrote in message ... I'd like a short (about 1m long) wooden bench for my garden. I've seen very cheap pine offerings and expensive naughty hardwoods. Will money buy me resistance to rote, mould, etc? Is there a really good "treatment" that will prevent rot? A lot of these seem to be for rough sawn timber only. Thanks! Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com |
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On Tue, 6 May 2003 19:56:07 +0100, "Nick Spalding"
wrote: Three years ago we bought some teak furniture - table, chairs and a Lutyens style bench from a market. The price was far less than those in garden centres or D-I-Y outfits at the time. I treated the wood with teak oil but in time that attracted soot, dirt and pollen and went dark. To get the colour back I have had to scrub and sand back to the original wood and am now trying Danish Oil as the preservative. I would agree with the previous posters that the hardwoods are a better bet, but whatever you buy will need thorough and regular treatment to keep it both protected and looking good. So, yes money will buy you a start but the rest is down to care and time in looking after what you have. My father bought some teak chairs made from the timbers of a ship - HMS Aresthusa I think - in a country house sale in 1950 - those chairs are still going strong ..... -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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On Tue, 06 May 2003 23:02:24 +0100, Stephen Howard
wrote: On Tue, 6 May 2003 19:56:07 +0100, "Nick Spalding" wrote: Three years ago we bought some teak furniture - table, chairs and a Lutyens style bench from a market. The price was far less than those in garden centres or D-I-Y outfits at the time. I treated the wood with teak oil but in time that attracted soot, dirt and pollen and went dark. To get the colour back I have had to scrub and sand back to the original wood and am now trying Danish Oil as the preservative. Whoops, forgot the message.. which was: If you haven't already bought the Danish Oil - check out Tung Oil or Liberon Finishing Oil. These two should provide a better, more natural finish - though they might be a good deal more expensive. Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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Stephen Howard wrote: On Tue, 06 May 2003 23:02:24 +0100, Stephen Howard wrote: On Tue, 6 May 2003 19:56:07 +0100, "Nick Spalding" wrote: Three years ago we bought some teak furniture - table, chairs and a Lutyens style bench from a market. The price was far less than those in garden centres or D-I-Y outfits at the time. I treated the wood with teak oil but in time that attracted soot, dirt and pollen and went dark. To get the colour back I have had to scrub and sand back to the original wood and am now trying Danish Oil as the preservative. Whoops, forgot the message.. which was: If you haven't already bought the Danish Oil - check out Tung Oil or Liberon Finishing Oil. These two should provide a better, more natural finish - though they might be a good deal more expensive. Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk The nice thing about teak is that it is so fine grained and well-protected by its own oils that its needs very little doing to it. If you leave it unoiled it will go a silvery grey in colour but I find that quite attractive. Teak from Indonesia can be pretty much guaranteed to be plantation sourced rather than from natural forests (the only natural stands of teak are in Thailand, Burma and maybe Laos) so you don't have to worry too much about your furniture contributing to forest destruction. I bought mine from the Ocean Trading co. which wasn't cheap but very good quality and nice styles. They have a sale at the end of the season which offers some savings. Anita |
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On Wed, 07 May 2003 10:37:36 +0100, "A.Malhotra"
wrote: Teak from Indonesia can be pretty much guaranteed to be plantation sourced rather than from natural forests (the only natural stands of teak are in Thailand, Burma and maybe Laos) so you don't have to worry too much about your furniture contributing to forest destruction. I beg to differ. I was in Kalimantan just, was it?, (seems like a dream now) last year. The devastation is like havoc. Fires. Bribes and corruption in officialdom. Best be responsible for replenishing our own methinks. Get a British grown hardwood and pay the price. Since it is gravely undervalued (must be getting scarcer surely?), you could give it some really fine joinery work and perhaps even some embellishment. Or do what someone suggested and settle for a softwood appropriately treated .. maybe.. just suggestions Respect hussein Grow a little garden spam block - for real addy, reverse letters of second level domain. |
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"Hussein M." wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2003 10:37:36 +0100, "A.Malhotra" wrote: Teak from Indonesia can be pretty much guaranteed to be plantation sourced rather than from natural forests (the only natural stands of teak are in Thailand, Burma and maybe Laos) so you don't have to worry too much about your furniture contributing to forest destruction. I beg to differ. I was in Kalimantan just, was it?, (seems like a dream now) last year. I did say TEAK. Teak is not a tropical rainforest species. It grows in seasonal areas, and in Indonesia largely comes from Java. No doubt natural forest was destroyed to make way for the plantations, but that was many decades, if not centuries ago, and the teak plantations are still much better habitat for many types of woldlife than the alternatives (these days teak plantations are tending to be replaced by oil palm, which makes a pretty sterile environment). Anita The devastation is like havoc. Fires. Bribes and corruption in officialdom. Best be responsible for replenishing our own methinks. Get a British grown hardwood and pay the price. Since it is gravely undervalued (must be getting scarcer surely?), you could give it some really fine joinery work and perhaps even some embellishment. Or do what someone suggested and settle for a softwood appropriately treated .. maybe.. just suggestions Respect hussein Grow a little garden spam block - for real addy, reverse letters of second level domain. |
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On Wed, 07 May 2003 22:51:15 +0100, Hussein M.
wrote: I beg to differ. I was in Kalimantan just, was it?, (seems like a dream now) last year. The devastation is like havoc. Fires. Bribes and corruption in officialdom. Best be responsible for replenishing our own methinks. Get a British grown hardwood and pay the price. Since it is gravely undervalued (must be getting scarcer surely?), you could give it some really fine joinery work and perhaps even some embellishment. Or do what someone suggested and settle for a softwood appropriately treated .. maybe.. just suggestions Respect hussein Grow a little garden spam block - for real addy, reverse letters of second level domain. If you buy hardwood in this country you can ask for a certificate which proves where it came from and the level of replanting there. Britain is one of the most developed countries in the world in the case of sourced timber be it soft or hard. Wish the rest of the world was as bothered about it. Mind you this countries forests were ravaged for years before we caught a grip on it. |
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On Thu, 08 May 2003 09:48:16 +0100, "A.Malhotra"
wrote: "Hussein M." wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2003 10:37:36 +0100, "A.Malhotra" wrote: Teak from Indonesia can be pretty much guaranteed to be plantation sourced rather than from natural forests (the only natural stands of teak are in Thailand, Burma and maybe Laos) so you don't have to worry too much about your furniture contributing to forest destruction. I beg to differ. I was in Kalimantan just, was it?, (seems like a dream now) last year. I did say TEAK. Teak is not a tropical rainforest species. It grows in seasonal areas, and in Indonesia largely comes from Java. No doubt natural forest was destroyed to make way for the plantations, but that was many decades, if not centuries ago, and the teak plantations are still much better habitat for many types of woldlife than the alternatives (these days teak plantations are tending to be replaced by oil palm, which makes a pretty sterile environment). Ok. You seem to have checked your facts. Whatever wood it is, if it is a hardwood it took a very long time to grow. Do you think a stand of trees slowly accumulating 'money' would not be a target for greed and corruption. Granted that cutting a swathe of teak is not as bad as cutting a swathe of the indigenous hardwoods but even so, it's the only kid on that block and it took him year upon year ... .... and are you sure someone has whips to plant in their place? As I said "grow your own". Apparently from a later post we are rather good at it. Huss Grow a little garden spam block - for real addy, reverse letters of second level domain. |
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