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Anyone got any suggestions?

http://i59.tinypic.com/vdegpw.jpg


The hedge had been allowed to get out of hand for a few years by the
previous owners, so we have reduced height by a foot, and are wondering
whether to thin it out a little in the Spring. Maybe those bare stalks
will sprout leaves if the top is kept trimmed?
Any advice appreciated
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On 2014-01-29 10:46:48 +0000, Martin said:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:02:55 +0000, stuart noble
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Anyone got any suggestions?

http://i59.tinypic.com/vdegpw.jpg


The hedge had been allowed to get out of hand for a few years by the
previous owners, so we have reduced height by a foot, and are wondering
whether to thin it out a little in the Spring. Maybe those bare stalks
will sprout leaves if the top is kept trimmed?
Any advice appreciated


You can't post .jpg files to this group, urg is a plain text only group.


?? I clicked on the link and got the pic. That's often done here, so
did you see something I didn't, I wonder?
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On 29/01/2014 10:46, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:02:55 +0000, stuart noble
wrote:

Anyone got any suggestions?

http://i59.tinypic.com/vdegpw.jpg


The hedge had been allowed to get out of hand for a few years by the
previous owners, so we have reduced height by a foot, and are wondering
whether to thin it out a little in the Spring. Maybe those bare stalks
will sprout leaves if the top is kept trimmed?
Any advice appreciated


You can't post .jpg files to this group, urg is a plain text only group.


No problems with your link, and as to the hedge, privet will take as
much hacking about as you want to give it.
Even if you cut it to within a few inches of the ground it will grow
back, they should sprout from the bare stems with no problems.
David @ at what is for now a rain free side of Swansea Bay
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David Hill wrote:
On 29/01/2014 10:46, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:02:55 +0000, stuart noble
wrote:

Anyone got any suggestions?

http://i59.tinypic.com/vdegpw.jpg

The hedge had been allowed to get out of hand for a few years by the
previous owners, so we have reduced height by a foot, and are wondering
whether to thin it out a little in the Spring. Maybe those bare stalks
will sprout leaves if the top is kept trimmed?
Any advice appreciated


You can't post .jpg files to this group, urg is a plain text only group.


The problem is that it uses one of the damn-fool mechanisms to enable
some software to display the contents automatically. There are several
of them, they work only with their favoured software, and make things
harder for everyone else.

No problems with your link, and as to the hedge, privet will take as
much hacking about as you want to give it.
Even if you cut it to within a few inches of the ground it will grow
back, they should sprout from the bare stems with no problems.


More so! It should be cut back quite a long way beyond where you
want the final hedge boundary to be, as it tends to sprout from the
cut tips and not from the length of the bare stems. In extremis,
cutting it back to a few inches (as you say) will help - if doing
that, it is worth cutting its new shoots every 6-12" to encourage it
to bush out.


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On 29/01/2014 11:10, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:52:45 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

On 2014-01-29 10:46:48 +0000, Martin said:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:02:55 +0000, stuart noble
wrote:

Anyone got any suggestions?

http://i59.tinypic.com/vdegpw.jpg

The hedge had been allowed to get out of hand for a few years by the
previous owners, so we have reduced height by a foot, and are wondering
whether to thin it out a little in the Spring. Maybe those bare stalks
will sprout leaves if the top is kept trimmed?
Any advice appreciated


I wouldn't do too much more until spring when the stuff will be very
keen to get going and bare stems will bud up as the sap rises.
incidentally if it is privet, box or cotoneaster some people are
sensitised by the sap so wear gloves.

You can't post .jpg files to this group, urg is a plain text only group.


?? I clicked on the link and got the pic. That's often done here, so
did you see something I didn't, I wonder?


Alternatively, copy the link and paste it into your browser's address
box. Works for me. Can't comment on the hedge though. Looks like
privet, of which I have no knowledge.


Looks like privet to me too. That stuff will take a fair amount of abuse
and still come back, but I'd be inclined to thin it back over a couple
of years to give the wildlife time to adapt. I leave my hedges fairly
thick so that they can accommodate plenty of wild birds.

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On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:02:55 +0000, stuart noble
wrote:

Anyone got any suggestions?

http://i59.tinypic.com/vdegpw.jpg


The hedge had been allowed to get out of hand for a few years by the
previous owners, so we have reduced height by a foot, and are wondering
whether to thin it out a little in the Spring. Maybe those bare stalks
will sprout leaves if the top is kept trimmed?
Any advice appreciated


It's a mess! I doubt it will recover. I would start again.

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On 29/01/2014 13:56, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:02:55 +0000, stuart noble
wrote:

Anyone got any suggestions?

http://i59.tinypic.com/vdegpw.jpg


The hedge had been allowed to get out of hand for a few years by the
previous owners, so we have reduced height by a foot, and are wondering
whether to thin it out a little in the Spring. Maybe those bare stalks
will sprout leaves if the top is kept trimmed?
Any advice appreciated


It's a mess! I doubt it will recover. I would start again.

Steve


Regardless of appearance, the privet is an effective boundary, and it
doesn't blow down in the wind :-)
Yep, sorry about the link. Tinypic used to be the way to do this, but
maybe no longer
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On 29/01/2014 11:50, Martin Brown wrote:
On 29/01/2014 11:10, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:52:45 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

On 2014-01-29 10:46:48 +0000, Martin said:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:02:55 +0000, stuart noble

wrote:

Anyone got any suggestions?

http://i59.tinypic.com/vdegpw.jpg

The hedge had been allowed to get out of hand for a few years by the
previous owners, so we have reduced height by a foot, and are
wondering
whether to thin it out a little in the Spring. Maybe those bare stalks
will sprout leaves if the top is kept trimmed?
Any advice appreciated


I wouldn't do too much more until spring when the stuff will be very
keen to get going and bare stems will bud up as the sap rises.
incidentally if it is privet, box or cotoneaster some people are
sensitised by the sap so wear gloves.

You can't post .jpg files to this group, urg is a plain text only
group.

?? I clicked on the link and got the pic. That's often done here, so
did you see something I didn't, I wonder?


Alternatively, copy the link and paste it into your browser's address
box. Works for me. Can't comment on the hedge though. Looks like
privet, of which I have no knowledge.


Looks like privet to me too. That stuff will take a fair amount of abuse
and still come back, but I'd be inclined to thin it back over a couple
of years to give the wildlife time to adapt. I leave my hedges fairly
thick so that they can accommodate plenty of wild birds.

Thanks everyone for the advice. To be reviewed in the Spring.....
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On 2014-01-29 14:07:00 +0000, stuart noble said:

On 29/01/2014 13:56, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:02:55 +0000, stuart noble
wrote:

Anyone got any suggestions?

http://i59.tinypic.com/vdegpw.jpg

The hedge had been allowed to get out of hand for a few years by the
previous owners, so we have reduced height by a foot, and are wondering
whether to thin it out a little in the Spring. Maybe those bare stalks
will sprout leaves if the top is kept trimmed?
Any advice appreciated


It's a mess! I doubt it will recover. I would start again.

Steve


Regardless of appearance, the privet is an effective boundary, and it
doesn't blow down in the wind :-)
Yep, sorry about the link. Tinypic used to be the way to do this, but
maybe no longer


It *might* help with the links to pics if you take out the [IMG] at
start and finish. I found that tinypic became so unwieldy that I've
changed to Flickr.
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It *might* help with the links to pics if you take out the [IMG] at
start and finish. I found that tinypic became so unwieldy that I've
changed to Flickr.

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Try it then (:-)

http://i59.tinypic.com/vdegpw.jpg

Regards
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Regardless of appearance, the privet is an effective boundary, and it
doesn't blow down in the wind :-)
Yep, sorry about the link. Tinypic used to be the way to do this, but maybe
no longer



Yup - it was just the way you presented the link -- http should be start
letters
to tell our machines it is a link - none of this img stuff works - lol

With regards to the hedge(privet) - you will never get it looking right by
fiddling with the top
as little new growth will come from the bottom half in height of it.

It will end up looking like an elongated poodles tail !!

Chop the whole down to Three /Four ins of the ground and you will
eventually end up with a proper hedge again at a growth in
height rate of about 24 ins per annum.

There are lots of temporary barrier systems that you use over the next year
or so to create a temporary boundary whilst the
privet regrows.

Regards
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Yup - it was just the way you presented the link -- http should be start
letters
to tell our machines it is a link - none of this img stuff works - lol


I wonder if Stuart may have HTML encoding set as the "style" for typing
stuff. (A long time ago, Microsoft used to be *******s for setting this
as the default in their software.)

No problem copying and pasting the link though Stuart so no worries.


re the hedge: privet is wonderful as a hedge: cherish it!
Pete's suggestion was to
Chop the whole down to Three /Four ins of the ground and you will
eventually end up with a proper hedge again at a growth in
height rate of about 24 ins per annum.

There are lots of temporary barrier systems that you use over the next year
or so to create a temporary boundary whilst the privet regrows.


That's not a bad idea, though my own experience of privet is that in NO
way does it grow at 24" p.a.!! (maybe depends on variety).

Personally however I'd NEVER, EVER chop a hedge right down! I'd do what
you yourself, and others, have suggested: work at it gradually over the
next year or so: the top will grow at least a foot this year (so you can
cut the top off by a foot now), and nurture the sides by firm-but-fair
pruning.

Also "they" say that a hedge ought to slope inwards towards the top (in
cross-section), so that light gets equally to the bottom as it does to
the tops.

Hedges are fab! (though bloody hard work twice a year, if you have as
many as I do.)

2p
John
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On 29/01/2014 18:18, Another John wrote:
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"Peter & Jeanne" wrote:

Yup - it was just the way you presented the link -- http should be start
letters
to tell our machines it is a link - none of this img stuff works - lol


I wonder if Stuart may have HTML encoding set as the "style" for typing
stuff. (A long time ago, Microsoft used to be *******s for setting this
as the default in their software.)

No problem copying and pasting the link though Stuart so no worries.


re the hedge: privet is wonderful as a hedge: cherish it!
Pete's suggestion was to
Chop the whole down to Three /Four ins of the ground and you will
eventually end up with a proper hedge again at a growth in
height rate of about 24 ins per annum.

There are lots of temporary barrier systems that you use over the next year
or so to create a temporary boundary whilst the privet regrows.


That's not a bad idea, though my own experience of privet is that in NO
way does it grow at 24" p.a.!! (maybe depends on variety).

Personally however I'd NEVER, EVER chop a hedge right down! I'd do what
you yourself, and others, have suggested: work at it gradually over the
next year or so: the top will grow at least a foot this year (so you can
cut the top off by a foot now), and nurture the sides by firm-but-fair
pruning.

Also "they" say that a hedge ought to slope inwards towards the top (in
cross-section), so that light gets equally to the bottom as it does to
the tops.

Hedges are fab! (though bloody hard work twice a year, if you have as
many as I do.)

2p
John

I will chop a foot off the top this winter and be firm-but-fair on the
sides. The triangular cross section makes sense, but is going to look a
little strange here in SE London where all hedges are perfectly vertical
:-)
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I will chop a foot off the top this winter and be firm-but-fair on the
sides. The triangular cross section makes sense, but is going to look a
little strange here in SE London where all hedges are perfectly vertical
:-)



I do not think that John was suggesting " triangular" in section.
If my geometric memory - the shape being promoted is more rhombic.
ie No pointy bits - lol
Enjoy your chopping in whatever style - the sooner the better whilst in
dormancy - imho.
Regards
Pete

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"Peter & Jeanne" wrote:

I do not think that John was suggesting " triangular" in section.
If my geometric memory - the shape being promoted is more rhombic.


Yes that's right: wider at the bottom than at the top, that's all. Sorry
should have made that clearer.

Enjoy your chopping in whatever style - the sooner the better whilst in
dormancy - imho.


Agreed: the weather is lousy, but the days are growing longer (hoorah!)
Once February is under way, if you spend the odd weekend indoors because
of foul weather you can find that everything has stolen a march on you
:-)

J.
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