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Nick Maclaren[_3_] 13-02-2014 10:18 AM

Buddleia alternifolia
 

I grew it once, and liked it, but the colour was not much better
than RAF blue-grey. I have seen pictures on the Web of better
colour forms, but can find no evidence of cultivars except for
"Argentea", which is mainly different in its foliage. Does
anyone know more?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Janet 13-02-2014 12:15 PM

Buddleia alternifolia
 
In article ,
says...

I grew it once, and liked it, but the colour was not much better
than RAF blue-grey. I have seen pictures on the Web of better
colour forms, but can find no evidence of cultivars except for
"Argentea", which is mainly different in its foliage. Does
anyone know more?



Buddlieas are so promiscuous that nowadays even (supposed) named
cultivars seem to vary considerably. I only buy ones in flower so I can
see exactly what I'm getting and choose the best looking.

Janet.

Jeff Layman[_2_] 13-02-2014 01:53 PM

Buddleia alternifolia
 
On 13/02/2014 12:15, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...

I grew it once, and liked it, but the colour was not much better
than RAF blue-grey. I have seen pictures on the Web of better
colour forms, but can find no evidence of cultivars except for
"Argentea", which is mainly different in its foliage. Does
anyone know more?



Buddlieas are so promiscuous that nowadays even (supposed) named
cultivars seem to vary considerably. I only buy ones in flower so I can
see exactly what I'm getting and choose the best looking.

Janet.


I think that is unfortunately true of many plants sold these days.
Unless a plant is effectively monotypic, and exists in one form only, I
almost invariably buy it only when it's in flower. Of course, they tend
to be more expensive that way.

One other advantage of buying in flower is that you get the plant you
want, and not one where Mr/Mrs Public has pulled out a label and put it
back in the wrong place!

--

Jeff

sacha 13-02-2014 07:12 PM

Buddleia alternifolia
 
On 2014-02-13 13:53:08 +0000, Jeff Layman said:

On 13/02/2014 12:15, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...

I grew it once, and liked it, but the colour was not much better
than RAF blue-grey. I have seen pictures on the Web of better
colour forms, but can find no evidence of cultivars except for
"Argentea", which is mainly different in its foliage. Does
anyone know more?



Buddlieas are so promiscuous that nowadays even (supposed) named
cultivars seem to vary considerably. I only buy ones in flower so I can
see exactly what I'm getting and choose the best looking.

Janet.


I think that is unfortunately true of many plants sold these days.
Unless a plant is effectively monotypic, and exists in one form only, I
almost invariably buy it only when it's in flower. Of course, they
tend to be more expensive that way.

One other advantage of buying in flower is that you get the plant you
want, and not one where Mr/Mrs Public has pulled out a label and put it
back in the wrong place!


I asked Ray about this as this is my favourite Buddleia. He knows of
the 'original' only and not of any cultivars. This doesn't mean there
aren't any, of course, only that this is the one he knows! I think
it's particularly attractive when grown over something, a boulder, a
low roof, something of that sort. Standing alone it tends to look a
bit forlorn and without purpose, imo. The outlaws had it growing on the
side of a lawn and over the low roof of a pumphouse that dealt with
their pond. Unlike Nick, I found the colour to be rather more
determined though not in any way showy. It's the plant's habit that
makes it especially attractive, combined with those long elegant
fingers of flower. IMO!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon


Nick Maclaren[_3_] 13-02-2014 07:39 PM

Buddleia alternifolia
 
In article ,
sacha wrote:
On 13/02/2014 12:15, Janet wrote:

I grew it once, and liked it, but the colour was not much better
than RAF blue-grey. I have seen pictures on the Web of better
colour forms, but can find no evidence of cultivars except for
"Argentea", which is mainly different in its foliage. Does
anyone know more?

Buddlieas are so promiscuous that nowadays even (supposed) named
cultivars seem to vary considerably. I only buy ones in flower so I can
see exactly what I'm getting and choose the best looking.


I think that is unfortunately true of many plants sold these days.
Unless a plant is effectively monotypic, and exists in one form only, I
almost invariably buy it only when it's in flower. Of course, they
tend to be more expensive that way.


I asked Ray about this as this is my favourite Buddleia. He knows of
the 'original' only and not of any cultivars. This doesn't mean there
aren't any, of course, only that this is the one he knows!


Thanks very much.

I have done some fairly extensive Web searching, and everything
confirms what he (and Janet) say. It seems to be a variable species
(surely not!) and I just got a rather poorly coloured one. I find
it a little odd that there has been no breeding as, for the reason
you say (and I snipped) it is extremely popular.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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